Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

Loozer · 10-05-2020 10:07PM

Stheno wrote: »

This was months before Cheltenham :rolleyes: and there aare tens if not hundreds of flights between the UK and Ireland every day, rather, there were.

Joke

fritzelly · 10-05-2020 10:08PM

Stheno wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52589449

Speculation someone who returned from Quhan in mid December brought it back to the UK and it infected two choirs

Everyone who had flu in December now believes they had coronavirus

jams100 · 10-05-2020 10:09PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

What are you on about? The 5km limit came into effect last Tue.5th May.

The 5km limit is currently just for exercise only. From the 18th it will be for shops, exercise etc.

ACitizenErased · 10-05-2020 10:09PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Everyone who had flu in December now believes they had coronavirus

Shortness of breath is not a symptom of the flu.

speckle · 10-05-2020 10:10PM

Miike wrote: »

Do you know what material that's in the mask you're allergic to?

Was trying to figure if its the material or where the strings are bonded to it or just the friction and/or the metal nose bridge strip. probably the humidity...contact dermatis& rosacea which doesnt help.
Even with the n95s I have some problems but less as they have a dome shape away from ones face.

gabeeg · 10-05-2020 10:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Shortness of breath is not a symptom of the flu.

It absolutely is.

lbj666 · 10-05-2020 10:20PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Shortness of breath is not a symptom of the flu.

It can be. Not saying it definitly wasnt here in December but every december some people will have the worst flu they've ever had, some of them might have had a cough or respiratory issues. This year those people are now coming out convinced they had c19, all anecdotal cases, coincidence is as good an explanation.

How many have shown up to the GP in the past 6 weeks with respiratory symptoms and tested negative?

Away With The Fairies · 10-05-2020 10:24PM

lillycakes2 wrote: »

The amount of people in Ireland not wearing masks is a joke, it is common sense to wear a mask! Just because it was never the norm or culture here.Things are different now...... people need to get real. The majority not wearing them......Afraid they will look silly, bigger fish to fry I say...……...bloody wear them !!!!

First time I wore a face mask out, I thought I would look silly. But then I saw one more in the shop and I couldn't care less anymore. If everybody wore a mask, we would all look silly together, so I don't see what the problem is.

stephenjmcd · 10-05-2020 10:31PM

HSE hosptial report out for tonight.

As of 8pm 72 patients in ICU and 545 patients with confirmed covid admitted to acute hospitals.

No major changes from yesterday.

ACitizenErased · 10-05-2020 10:39PM

gabeeg wrote: »

It absolutely is.

Shortness of breath is caused by pneumonic symptoms such as fluid in the lungs. Flu rarely, rarely causes pneumonia for the average person. Just because someone thinks they may have had COVID and had COVID symptoms does not mean they're 'just overreacting and it's the flu'. You have to be vigilant of every single symptom nowadays, I'm not sure why that's hard to understand.

poppers · 10-05-2020 10:42PM

lbj666 wrote: »

Workplaces will enforce wearing them. Shops that open up again will insist on them for the sake of their staff. Public transport unions are pushing it big time, when its gets busier more people will start wearing them and could potentially a self policing thing. I can see attitudes to masks changing quiet fast.

Shops that didnt close never insited on masks. ( No reports of high numbers of super valu or tesco staff catching it) so why do you think shops opening next week will.

Away With The Fairies · 10-05-2020 10:43PM

Stheno wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52589449

Speculation someone who returned from Wuhan in mid December brought it back to the UK and it infected two choirs

Very interesting. There was a poster in one of the threads that said they had family or friends over from China before or at Christmas. If UK and France had it then, I believe that poster and it was definitely here before Christmas.

khalessi · 10-05-2020 10:44PM

poppers wrote: »

Shops that didnt close never insited on masks. ( No reports of high numbers of super valu or tesco staff catching it) so why do you think shops opening next week will.

Do they all have the protective perspex

10-05-2020 10:46PM

gabeeg wrote: »

It absolutely is.

Strange that I can't find it listed as a one on three different government health sites
It would be a sign of pneumonia, which serious cases of covid get.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/flu/flu-symptoms-and-diagnosis.html

Flu and coronavirus
The symptoms of coronavirus are like flu symptoms. The main difference is that you usually do not have shortness of breath when you have the flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm
Flu is different from a cold. Flu usually comes on suddenly. People who have flu often feel some or all of these symptoms

fever* or feeling feverish/chills
cough
sore throat
runny or stuffy nose
muscle or body aches
headaches
fatigue (tiredness)
some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults.
*It’s important to note that not everyone with flu will have a fever.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/flu/

Flu symptoms come on very quickly and can include:

a sudden fever – a temperature of 38C or above
an aching body
feeling tired or exhausted
a dry cough
a sore throat
a headache
difficulty sleeping
loss of appetite
diarrhoea or tummy pain
feeling sick and being sick

jams100 · 10-05-2020 10:47PM

Let's not forget for 80% of people its only a mild illness. I think we can all get a bit scared reading these threads and news too much, well I do sometimes anyway

ACitizenErased · 10-05-2020 10:47PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Strange that I can't find it listed as a one on three different government sites
It would be a sign of pneumonia, which serious cases of covid get.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/flu/flu-symptoms-and-diagnosis.html

Flu and coronavirus
The symptoms of coronavirus are like flu symptoms. The main difference is that you usually do not have shortness of breath when you have the flu.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm
Flu is different from a cold. Flu usually comes on suddenly. People who have flu often feel some or all of these symptoms

fever* or feeling feverish/chills
cough
sore throat
runny or stuffy nose
muscle or body aches
headaches
fatigue (tiredness)
some people may have vomiting and diarrhea, though this is more common in children than adults.
*It’s important to note that not everyone with flu will have a fever.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/flu/

Flu symptoms come on very quickly and can include:

a sudden fever – a temperature of 38C or above
an aching body
feeling tired or exhausted
a dry cough
a sore throat
a headache
difficulty sleeping
loss of appetite
diarrhoea or tummy pain
feeling sick and being sick

Exactly this. The berating of people who think they may have had it is ridiculous on here, honestly. We need EVERYONE who even has an inkling they may have COVID to get tested/checked. It's hard to put into words how important it is.

jams100 · 10-05-2020 10:48PM

Let's not forget for 80% of people its only a mild illness. I think we can all get a bit scared reading these threads and news too much, well I do sometimes anyway

fritzelly · 10-05-2020 10:49PM

Cold and flu can cause chest infections, symptoms of which include breathlessness

If it was so easy to distinguish between flu and covid we wouldn't have to test for it

ACitizenErased · 10-05-2020 10:50PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Cold and flu can cause chest infections, symptoms of which include breathlessness

Pneumonia is a type of chest infection. Flu rarely causes pneumonia, as has been said before.

s1ippy · 10-05-2020 10:52PM

Wibbs wrote: »

If you have COPD you really should be extremely careful leaving your house. Apparently autistics and similar are also exempt/problematic. Still, it's a small percentage of people and wouldn't affect community mask wearing for the majority.

Exactly, the whole idea of making masks mandatory is that if everyone is wearing them, the risk for those who can't is reduced enormously.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ive actually been assuming that the people who I see wearing them in their car would also wear them in the bedroom

Shaming people for wearing masks when there's an airborne virus, what a total utter genius.

fritzelly · 10-05-2020 10:55PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Pneumonia is a type of chest infection. Flu rarely causes pneumonia, as has been said before.

Seriously wrong

https://www.passporthealthusa.com/2018/10/how-does-the-flu-become-pneumonia/

one-third of pneumonia cases develop from a respiratory virus, with the flu the most common of those.

If people want a t-shirt saying "I survived Coronavirus" to satisfy their victim complex and I'm sure some enterprising sort can help them out

Funsterdelux · 10-05-2020 10:59PM

80% of the time you'll be fine all the time

Ficheall · 10-05-2020 11:08PM

jams100 wrote: »

Let's not forget for 80% of people its only a mild illness. I think we can all get a bit scared reading these threads and news too much, well I do sometimes anyway

What do you feel constitutes a "mild" illness, as a matter of interest?

ACitizenErased · 10-05-2020 11:11PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Seriously wrong

https://www.passporthealthusa.com/2018/10/how-does-the-flu-become-pneumonia/

If people want a t-shirt saying "I survived Coronavirus" to satisfy their victim complex and I'm sure some enterprising sort can help them out

I'm not sure how this still doesn't prove that a large majority of pneumonia cases are not caused by the flu?

I don't get why you're discrediting people who think they may have had it, what difference does it make? There's a chance they had it.

Kermit.de.frog · 10-05-2020 11:14PM

speckle · 10-05-2020 11:20PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Why is Greece at the top? I thought they were doing good with Covid cases? I can understand why Italy etc near the top. And why is it not effecting Polands economy so much?

lbj666 · 10-05-2020 11:21PM

Ficheall wrote: »

What do you feel constitutes a "mild" illness, as a matter of interest?

Anything from a temperature to the worst possible dose of the flu you've ever had but doesn't still warrant going to hospital

lbj666 · 10-05-2020 11:23PM

speckle wrote: »

Why is Greece at the top? I thought they were doing good with Covid cases? I can understand why Italy etc near the top. And why is it not effecting Polands economy so much?

Tourism possibly

Stheno · 10-05-2020 11:24PM

speckle wrote: »

Why is Greece at the top? I thought they were doing good with Covid cases? I can understand why Italy etc near the top. And why is it not effecting Polands economy so much?

Greece's economy is massively dependent on Tourism

Poland is not tied to the Euro which may be why there are so low?

podgeandrodge · 10-05-2020 11:27PM

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

I've heard of a lady cocooning getting the virus. Only getting shopping left outside the door and talking to her son through a closed window.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

That's a bit like the other post earlier about a UK mother who was cocooning and her daughter only left the shopping outside too. Except that in your example, the son must have been bellowing through that closed window for her to hear! Hope there were no cracks in the window!

There's always more to these stories than you hear. The virus doesn't just materialise out of thin air without coming into contact with it.

lbj666 wrote: »

And... to be honest i have absolutely no interest in anecdotal stories of cases in amongst 3.8 million of cases worldwide.

@lbj666 yes, to clarify, I was trying to say that these stories are all anecdotal crap and not worth paying attention to.

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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