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    #2432
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,848 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Change the fuppin record, Justin.


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    #2433
    Tacitus Kilgore
    Registered Users Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭Tacitus Kilgore


    Unpopular opinion - the last few pages have been pure and utter shite


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    #2434
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,848 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I have no doubt that if I was over 70 and still in good health, that I would be doing my own shopping and going for walks.

    I totally get why older, fit, independent people are going against the guidelines. I'm not saying that they should, just that I get it.


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    #2435
    dubstarr
    Registered Users Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    But does it ?
    For example, I think the vast amount of fat people are fat due to their own lifestyle, laziness, and dependency on crap food etc.
    Yes there are exceptions due to medical reasons, steroids etc.
    It is also a fact they are a burden on the health system



    I believe a lot of people think this, but seemingly expressing this is frowned upon, and attacking the poster wont change this.



    If I say I prefer foreign girls to Irish girls, which is not only my preference but my right, again parochial defensive Irish people will jump on board.
    These opinions dont make the poster a horrible person, but people will label anyone who dont agree with them as that to suit their agenda.

    I agree with you and i am fat.Im fat cause i dont exercise and eat food.Im not fat cause of "genetics" or "not eating all day"


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    #2436
    She is d.i.s.c.o
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭She is d.i.s.c.o


    I liked Liam Gallagher's song, Songbird.


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    #2437
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,848 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    dubstarr wrote: »
    I agree with you and i am fat.Im fat cause i dont exercise and eat food.Im not fat cause of "genetics" or "not eating all day"

    And do you find that being told that motivates you to lose weight?

    There are studies that indicate the opposite.


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    #2438
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    And do you find that being told that motivates you to lose weight?

    There are studies that indicate the opposite.
    Depressing People about their weight will not help People to lose weight.


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    #2439
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,848 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    blinding wrote: »
    Depressing People about their weight will not help People to lose weight.

    Try telling that to Justin.


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    #2440
    BuboBubo
    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭BuboBubo


    blinding wrote: »
    Depressing People about their weight will not help People to lose weight.

    Agree. It's like smoking. All the "subtle" hints, tut tuts, and health speeches won't help anyone to quit.

    Until a person decides to quit themselves it's not going to happen. Then the tutters can step in and give positive vibes instead.


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    #2441
    gary550
    Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭gary550


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    But does it ?
    For example, I think the vast amount of fat people are fat due to their own lifestyle, laziness, and dependency on crap food etc.
    Yes there are exceptions due to medical reasons, steroids etc.
    It is also a fact they are a burden on the health system

    It's a pretty generic point Justin. Do you hold the same opinion about smokers? people who are alcohol dependant (or abuse alcohol on a regular basis)? Drug dependant people (or recreational abusers of drugs)? You could even stretch it to people who like to or regularly drive fast & in a reckless manner. They all have to avoid logic in their choices and are all a burden (or potential burden) on the healthcare system & state.

    What about poor people? It can be argued that they lack resolve, are too lazy to better themselves, are victims of their own lifestyle choices and generally have a much greater likelihood of being smokers or alcohol dependant or overweight or uneducated which in turn not only makes them potentially detrimental to our healthcare system but also a permanent drain on Mr & Mrs Tax Payer because they are more likely to need subsidised income and state sponsored housing.

    Now all the above are not my unpopular opinion nor do I hold any contempt for any of the above groups but all are valid arguments when you take into account your arguments about lifestyle choices, laziness etc.

    Out of curiosity where is your line drawn?


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    #2442
    Panthro
    Registered Users Posts: 14,777 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    I'd hope it's drawn in the sand.


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    #2443
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,823 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Going to a holiday homes and exercising outside - makes no difference in the overall scale of things.


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    #2444
    Panthro
    Registered Users Posts: 14,777 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Ah it does though.


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    #2445
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,823 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Panthro wrote: »
    Ah it does though.

    Going "shopping" - many unnecessary shopping trips is probably in the order of 50 times worse.
    We will find all this out when real data comes out in a few years - sure all these restrictions people want now , will be first to go


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    #2446
    Rothko
    Registered Users Posts: 12,852 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    She is d.i.s.c.o wrote: »
    I liked Liam Gallagher's song, Songbird.

    Yeah, I think it's a fairly decent tune.


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    #2447
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    gary550 wrote: »
    It's a pretty generic point Justin. Do you hold the same opinion about smokers? people who are alcohol dependant (or abuse alcohol on a regular basis)? Drug dependant people (or recreational abusers of drugs)? You could even stretch it to people who like to or regularly drive fast & in a reckless manner. They all have to avoid logic in their choices and are all a burden (or potential burden) on the healthcare system & state.

    What about poor people? It can be argued that they lack resolve, are too lazy to better themselves, are victims of their own lifestyle choices and generally have a much greater likelihood of being smokers or alcohol dependant or overweight or uneducated which in turn not only makes them potentially detrimental to our healthcare system but also a permanent drain on Mr & Mrs Tax Payer because they are more likely to need subsidised income and state sponsored housing.

    Now all the above are not my unpopular opinion nor do I hold any contempt for any of the above groups but all are valid arguments when you take into account your arguments about lifestyle choices, laziness etc.

    Out of curiosity where is your line drawn?






    Fat people people being a burden on the health system is a fact which I am entitled to voice. Do I want those people to die, of course not, but I would rather see them exercise, or change their diet. I have friends who are fat, but it does not change the truth.




    As for recreational junkies, and chain smokers again this is their lifestyle even if most are thin. and yes they do, like fat people will have a shorter life expectancy.
    You can argue drink and drugs are an addiction....is laziness an "addiction



    Laziness is not reserved for the poor, laziness is classless. Plenty "poor" people cannot afford a car or as many taxis so will do more walking.


    My point is bone idle laziness, is not in the same league as prescribed, or recreational drugs or alcohol,


    No one goes to bed thin and wakes up obese
    They allow it to happen, they see themselves getting fatter and fatter and do nothing, at what point when your clothes don't fit do you say, its time to change things ?


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    #2448
    dubstarr
    Registered Users Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    the beer revolu wrote: »
    And do you find that being told that motivates you to lose weight?

    There are studies that indicate the opposite.

    No but nobody says anything to me.Saying that im deaf as well so maybe i cant hear it:D


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    #2449
    dubstarr
    Registered Users Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    gary550 wrote: »
    It's a pretty generic point Justin. Do you hold the same opinion about smokers? people who are alcohol dependant (or abuse alcohol on a regular basis)? Drug dependant people (or recreational abusers of drugs)? You could even stretch it to people who like to or regularly drive fast & in a reckless manner. They all have to avoid logic in their choices and are all a burden (or potential burden) on the healthcare system & state.

    What about poor people? It can be argued that they lack resolve, are too lazy to better themselves, are victims of their own lifestyle choices and generally have a much greater likelihood of being smokers or alcohol dependant or overweight or uneducated which in turn not only makes them potentially detrimental to our healthcare system but also a permanent drain on Mr & Mrs Tax Payer because they are more likely to need subsidised income and state sponsored housing.

    Now all the above are not my unpopular opinion nor do I hold any contempt for any of the above groups but all are valid arguments when you take into account your arguments about lifestyle choices, laziness etc.

    Out of curiosity where is your line drawn?

    I think the difference is nobody NEEDS to smoke,Nobody NEEDS TO drink.But you NEED food.You cant cut it out.


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    #2450
    playonplayette
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭playonplayette


    Men who cry...a lot.

    Sorry..I know all this modern shyte and all people should express themselves and yea to a certain extent but tbf I just don't get or like men who cry a lot.

    Like I remember myself as a kid being told not to cry sometimes and I'm a woman. I remember falling in the playground and holding back the tears because I didn't want anyone to see me cry and being proud I fell and didn't cry.

    Not saying people or men shouldn't express themselves but I just wouldn't want a man who cries more than I do and that's that.

    The reason, often, when a man cries that it's comes across as moving is because it's not associated with men so therefore when he does it's attributed as 'it must be something big/deep but I've known male cryers from when I was a kid and older and most of them were self pitying whingy *****. Just antidotal but there ya go.


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    #2451
    da_miser
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    No real unpopular opinions in this thread, posters are afraid of a ban if they give a unpopular one!
    If its a opinion why should boards issue bans for posters being honest?


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    #2452
    playonplayette
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭playonplayette


    da_miser wrote: »
    No real unpopular opinions in this thread, posters are afraid of a ban if they give a unpopular one!
    If its a opinion why should boards issue bans for posters being honest?

    Not all unpopular opinions are reasons to be banned.

    For example..I think The Smiths are overated ****.


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    #2453
    Rothko
    Registered Users Posts: 12,852 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    playonplayette wrote: »
    Not all unpopular opinions are reasons to be banned.

    For example..I think The Smiths are overated ****.

    I was with ya in the first half


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    #2454
    playonplayette
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭playonplayette


    Rothko wrote: »
    I was with ya in the first half

    I don't care :)


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    #2455
    da_miser
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    playonplayette wrote: »
    Not all unpopular opinions are reasons to be banned.

    Well lets find out,
    There are only 2 genders!


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    #2456
    playonplayette
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭playonplayette


    da_miser wrote: »
    Well lets find out,
    There are only 2 genders!

    Been done before miser.

    Since it's only me and you here right now I guess it would be unpopular for me to say..you're not up to date :/ Unless Rothko has something to say about it...


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    #2457
    da_miser
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    playonplayette wrote: »
    Been done before miser.

    Since it's only me and you here right now I guess it would be unpopular for me to say..you're not up to date :/ Unless Rothko has something to say about it...

    Ok then , there is no gender pay gap.
    Men & women get paid the same for the same job, thats the law.
    Women have a problem with men getting paid more for working the same hours.
    A supermarket worker does not deserve the same as a miner, working a kilometre underground in a dangerous environment.
    Nothing stopping a woman applying for a miners job, other than its dangerous hard work and they are not interested.
    Plenty of men happy with a job in a supermarket, realise if they want better pay, got to do a harder/dangerous job, not willing to do this, so accept their lot in life.
    Women don't see this, only that men get paid more, yep for nasty dangerous jobs, these same jobs are there for women to do , but women dont want them.


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    #2458
    playonplayette
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭playonplayette


    da_miser wrote: »
    Ok then , there is no gender pay gap.
    Men & women get paid the same for the same job, thats the law.
    Women have a problem with men getting paid more for working the same hours. supermarket worker does not deserve the same as a miner, working a kilometre underground in a dangerous environment.
    Nothing stopping a woman applying for a miners job, other than its dangerous hard work and they are not interested.
    Plenty of men happy with a job in a supermarket, realise if they want better pay, got to do a harder/dangerous job, not willing to do this, so accept their lot in life.
    Women don't see this, only that me get paid more, yep for nasty dangerous jobs, these same jobs are there for women to do , but women dont want them.

    I'm fine with that except the point you randomly snook in of 'Women have a problem with men getting paid more for working the same hours.' :confused: in what context did you mean that?

    If they are in the same job and working with the same ability and working the same hours then why wouldn't they get paid the same??


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    #2459
    playonplayette
    Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭playonplayette


    Unpopular opinion - The majority of men are whingebag betas. There's only a small percentage of real alpha males who all the women want but they are very hard to spot in the wild. A lot of men fake apha-ism to trick women into bed/submission.

    Alpha females eventually retort in resentment/anger at the trickery.

    This is main reason for divorce in our society today. :pac:


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    #2460
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    We will look back upon the present crisis and say how the f**k did we allow ourselves f**k up things so badly.


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    #2461
    da_miser
    Registered Users Posts: 640 ✭✭✭da_miser


    playonplayette wrote: »
    I'm fine with that except the point you randomly snook in of 'Women have a problem with men getting paid more for working the same hours.' :confused: in what context did you mean that?

    If they are in the same job and working with the same ability and working the same hours then why wouldn't they get paid the same??

    Women moan about pay gap
    Women say men get paid more
    Law states that men and women get paid same rate for same job.
    Any business not doing so is open to huge lawsuit.
    So can you give examples of pay difference for exact same job?
    They don't exist outside the minds of deranged feminists on the fringe!

    Boards diamond mining Inc pays the miners E10 per hour for going 1 km under ground to dig out diamonds.
    Boards diamond mining Inc pays E8 per hour to clean workers quarters at ground level.
    No barrier to working under ground for E10 per hour, just have to want to, many men would rather get E8 per hour above ground than risk going underground.
    Then we have modern feminists screeching this is sexist, both the miners and cleaner work for Boards Mining Inc and should be paid the same.
    If this was the case who the hell would risk going down underground in the mines when they could get the same pay for cleaning above ground?
    So Boards Mining Inc offers a higher pay rate to work in the mines under ground, a incentive to do dangerous work.
    No discrimination against women to do this work , women just not interested, then feminists screech men(miners) get paid more that women(above ground cleaners) yet fail to accept nothing stopping women from working down in the mines.
    There is no gender pay gap.
    Some jobs are dangerous or dirty/nasty.
    Most women have zero interest in doing these dangerous or dirty/nasty job, fact is most men are not either.
    So a businesses will have to pay a premium to get these jobs done.
    This is when mostly men step up to do these jobs.
    Feminists then screech about men getting paid more for the same job.
    "Why do men get paid more than women , when we both work for Boards Mining Inc",
    Well now you know.


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