Relaxation of restrictions Part II

No of new cases is 137 today

Just one day but that's positive step in right direction

growleaves wrote: »

What do you think about Scotland Yard letting Dr. Neil Ferguson skate on criminal charges after he broke the lockdown rules twice?

The biggest criminal is that Ferguson bloke. Luckily he will never have a platform to repeat the magnitude of ineptitude like he has done a few times now.
Hard to belive they lockdown was based on his models, and him flaunting it.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If you look at the evening briefings, covid 19 is treated as if its fatal in almost all situations, dangerous, lethal etc etc. Off the scale scaremongering.

Why are you surprised people are afraid of turning up for appointments?

Holohan said yesterday evening he's worried about young people getting infected. No caveats, nothing. Said nothing about the risks of healthy young people getting anything other than a mild dose was minimal.

When your government and health services continue to convey this as a serious illness for everyone, it is not one bit surprising that people would avoid hospitals.

Regards the breakdown of ICU patients, is there any evidence that those undergoing cancer treatment ended up in ICU? It would be great if they clarified this. Don't expect any of the journalists to ask it.

The government and Holohan need to state clearly and unambiguously that covid 19 is not a serious illness for the overwhelming number of people. So far they haven't said that. And while that nonsense continues, don't be surprised to see even young people avoid hospital for potentially life saving cancer treatments.

You could get it and be fine, but your partner if you have one, or your housemates, or whatever, may not be so lucky. They are dealing with a new virus and new statistics coming out every day. For example , we are now only getting a breakdown of how those with underlying conditions are affected in Ireland.
It appears to be slightly different from China so far, so how can you project forward accurately until we actually go through it?
So how exactly do you propose they state the fact that this may kill anyone but apart from the usual suspects , they are not sure if it might kill you or your loved ones ?

So much bs from people here who seriously need to go away and read a bit more ,or go for a walk and get over it.
Everyone here is affected one way or the other. We all have potential future job losses and a recession facing us. Sick of seeing stupid people on boards writing nonsense that this is hysteria and that the government or Tony Holohan are keeping us all locked up for no good reason.
If the majority of people believed that sxxxe they would be out at the Four Courts with that group of fools ...but they are not, are they? They are obeying the rules and taking it on the chin, and will be doing their best to get through this with their health and their families intact as best as possible.
By the way , if you want to ask anything you can email the journos and they will ask your question at the briefing, if it is worth asking , of course.

Billgirlylegs wrote: »

I was around Clontarf/Fairview on a fairly regular basis.
Generally clear of people.
Some people unaware of the need to keep distance (queuing for coffee bizarrely)
but no real issues.
As for the Gardai, I have seen them stop buses and climb on board to check.

Seconding this in relation to the safety of Clontarf/Fairview with the majority of people being very respectful of the rules. I’ve also seen Gardaí approach groups of teenagers on bikes when needed.

Your comment however regarding people queuing for coffee being bizarre struck me as notable in that as long as people are observing keeping the required distance this is fine. There are massive social, emotional & of course economic impacts to these restrictions & if small cafés can operate within the guidelines it will be vital for local economic recovery in addition to being some small comfort for those that need it.

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

With all due respect people here are posting the following. Where is "treated" in there?


Just got reply from cervical screening -

“Your next test is due 23/5/2020. I note your address below and have amended the Register to reflect this. However see below COVID-19 restrictions:

Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Cervical screening is paused in line with the HSE's measures to stop the spread of COVID-19.(...)”

Big difference between treatment and screening , yes.
That is not the post I was replying to .
If a person is concerned and has symptoms they are worried about, they should ring their GP. They won't be getting any routine screening but anything else IS being looked after, and as I said I have had personal experience of this.

Goldengirl wrote: »

You could get it and be fine, but your partner if you have one, or your housemates, or whatever, may not be so lucky. They are dealing with a new virus and new statistics coming out every day. For example , we are now only getting a breakdown of how those with underlying conditions are affected in Ireland.
It appears to be slightly different from China so far, so how can you project forward accurately until we actually go through it?
So how exactly do you propose they state the fact that this may kill anyone but apart from the usual suspects , they are not sure if it might kill you or your loved ones ?

So much bs from people here who seriously need to go away and read a bit more ,or go for a walk and get over it.
Everyone here is affected one way or the other. We all have potential future job losses and a recession facing us. Sick of seeing stupid people on boards writing nonsense that this is hysteria and that the government or Tony Holohan are keeping us all locked up for no good reason.
If the majority of people believed that sxxxe they would be out at the Four Courts with that group of fools ...but they are not, are they? They are obeying the rules and taking it on the chin, and will be doing their best to get through this with their health and their families intact as best as possible.
By the way , if you want to ask anything you can email the journos and they will ask your question at the briefing, if it is worth asking , of course.

What exactly is the issue with posts on here? I’ve had enough of this ‘we’re all going through hardships’ - no we’re not. We’re all sitting on our backsides wasting BILLIONS of taxpayers money for no good reason anymore. Children and people under 50 in particular - the risks are minimal and their lives are being destroyed. Why are we all hiding out and why? Absolutely abysmal performance from authorities, we should be leading the way in re-opening, not watching on as others do it. Ireland could suffer big reputational damage from this farce.
Are you denying the current death rates looks to be 0.5%? Are you denying the fact that this disease is just a risk for people who are 80+ or with underlying conditions? You seem to be suggesting it’s more dangerous than it is in your posts, thus keeping everyone scared and alone in their houses.
Are you not willing to accept our European neighbours are re-opening, schools in Denmark, restaurants, etc & there is NO SPIKE in cases.
Germany is now turning its attention to allowing its citizens go on summer holidays around Europe.
Meanwhile in the Dáil...lets extend the Covid payment and keep everything closed. I’m sure our credit rating, borrowing capacity, tax take, etc is actually just a bottomless pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

Apologies if it has already been dealt with but headlines globally have suggested men are disproportionately affected but in Ireland death rate is 57% female.

CruelSummer wrote: »

What exactly is the issue with posts on here? I’m had enough of this ‘we’re all going through hardships’ - no we’re not. We’re all sitting on our backsides wasting BILLIONS of taxpayers money for no good reason anymore. Children and people under 50 in particular - the risks are minimal and their lives are being destroyed. Why are we all hiding out and why? Absolutely abysmal performance from authorities, we should be leading the way in re-opening, not watching on as others do it. Ireland could suffer big reputational damage from this farce.
Are you denying the current death rates looks to be 0.5%? Are you denying the fact that this disease is just a risk for people who are 80+ or with underlying conditions? You seem to be suggesting it’s more dangerous than it is in your posts, thus keeping everyone scared and alone in their houses.
Are you not willing to accept our European neighbours are re-opening, schools in Denmark, restaurants, etc & there is NO SPIKE in cases.
Germany is now turning its attention to allowing its citizens go on summer holidays around Europe.
Meanwhile in the Dáil...lets extend the Covid payment and keep everything closed. I’m sure our credit rating, borrowing capacity, tax take, etc is actually just a bottomless pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

There are 2 types of people in this thread, medical experts and common sense people.

Unfortunately our government is full of medical experts too.

A lot of doomsayers too, the classic "How do you know virus wont spread quickly if restrictions are lifted".

I ll tell you how, look at Denmark, Germany, Czech republic, Norway, Finland, Any BBC SKY NEWS 20 000 die in 1 day articles coming out? Half of US states have opened up. Thats 170 million + people for crying out. Where is the 2nd virus outbreak? Where?

That Japanese island that has less than 1000 covid cases? (not deaths, cases) Give me a break.

trishasaffron wrote: »

Apologies if it has already been dealt with but headlines globally have suggested men are disproportionately affected but in Ireland death rate is 57% female.

Is the death rate 50.2% male 49.8% female?

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I`m sure that will end well. I mean what could possibly go wrong?:rolleyes:

People might enjoy themselves. Nothing worse than that