Relaxation of restrictions Part II

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

256 new cases yesterday. Way above where we need to be.

This is a direct result of fecklessness by some of the population.

Some see fit to have house parties, hang out in groups, go to parks and all the rest of it and this is the result of that. And the posters on this thread telling people to ignore guidelines, that it's not so bad, it's just the old (fcuk em) - you're a total disgrace and you should have a look at yourselves. Selfish and ignorant - not a good combination.

No point blaming Holohan if the measures need to remain as they are.

Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte is facing a growing revolt by Italian business and political rivals against his strategy for ending a nationwide lockdown that’s being eased for the first time on Monday.

Criticism of Conte’s recovery plans and anger among small businesses left out of the first phase of easing are percolating after almost two months of restrictions that hammered an already recession-bound economy. Pressure to speed up reopening is likely to increase after new deaths and infections blamed on the virus fell to the lowest since the shutdown began on March 10.

Conte, a law professor who took office in 2018 during a populist rebellion against Italy’s political establishment, insisted on Sunday that the governing coalition is solid. He pushed back against widespread criticism that he’s been excessively cautious.

Deleted User wrote: »

The league will operate in a bubble with constant testing and isolation outside of the team bubble. If someone from Hoffenheim were to test positive for example, the game against Union Berlin would also be cancelled

tobefrank321 wrote: »

And once restrictions are lifted that will go to 200-300 cases a day in a couple of weeks.

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I very much doubt Simon Harris cares what the Bundesliga will or will not be doing on the 15th May or any other date thereafter. Nor should he.

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

But do you think its fine that our ministers do not look abroad for some guidance over how/when to exit lockdown?

Do you think Simon Harris shouldnt look at other countries who are already 3 4 weeks out of lockdown and, if they dont have 10 000 + body bags on the streets maybe follow them?

I think our government have cocooned themselves from the outside the world and lost touch with reality.

FishOnABike wrote: »

Possibly time that people not giving details of where they planned to isolate were refused entry until they did provide details and then targeted for checking during the 14 day period. Providing false details or failure to isolate should be an offense.

Ms Ardern announced today that the Government's approach to Kiwis returning from overseas will change from New Zealanders being allowed to head home to them being put into quarantine facilities for two weeks.

"That’s why from midnight tonight every New Zealander boarding a flight to return home will be required to undergo quarantine or managed isolation in an approved facility for a minimum of 14 days," Ms Ardern said.

"I am also signalling that the requirement for 14 days of quarantine or managed self-isolation in a government-approved facility, will be a prerequisite for anyone entering the country in order to keep the virus out."

The announcement comes after Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters told RNZ this morning travellers would be met at the airport and taken straight to a quarantine facility with military or police possibly involved in the transport.

Mr Peters said the police and military could also be used to give other New Zealanders confidence in the system.

"We're going to put in the resources so we get the New Zealand people confidence that the people that are their relations have a right to come home, but nevertheless will not endanger New Zealand people back here," he said.

Ms Ardern said this afternoon the quarantining of returning New Zealanders will be a mammoth undertaking.

growleaves wrote: »

Not established.

You began by assuming the lockdown was necessary to prevent deaths and end by assuming it prevented deaths.

FishOnABike wrote: »

All it needs is a doctor's opinion. It doesn't need to get to court before a person can be detained. They can challenge their ongoing detention but I expect it would be pointless as their quarantine period would have in all likelihood have expired before they would get a hearing.

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Forget vaccine. You really need to activate brain cells and forget the vaccine. Below is from official EU commission website

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The text of the resolution just passed by a sufficient number in the Council of Europe Parliament says among other things, "In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines. The "bird-flu"-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu"-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health-budgets, but to the credibility and accountability of important international health-agencies."