Kermit.de.frog wrote: » 256 new cases yesterday. Way above where we need to be.This is a direct result of fecklessness by some of the population. Some see fit to have house parties, hang out in groups, go to parks and all the rest of it and this is the result of that. And the posters on this thread telling people to ignore guidelines, that it's not so bad, it's just the old (fcuk em) - you're a total disgrace and you should have a look at yourselves. Selfish and ignorant - not a good combination. No point blaming Holohan if the measures need to remain as they are.
road_high wrote: » Seriously depressing reading last night the increased figures here- while dropping on the Continent and life getting back to normal. WTF are we at? The lockdown here has been strict, well supported and very well adhered to. Nothing much is open. How the fcuk are we doing so poorly?
Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte is facing a growing revolt by Italian business and political rivals against his strategy for ending a nationwide lockdown that’s being eased for the first time on Monday. Criticism of Conte’s recovery plans and anger among small businesses left out of the first phase of easing are percolating after almost two months of restrictions that hammered an already recession-bound economy. Pressure to speed up reopening is likely to increase after new deaths and infections blamed on the virus fell to the lowest since the shutdown began on March 10. Conte, a law professor who took office in 2018 during a populist rebellion against Italy’s political establishment, insisted on Sunday that the governing coalition is solid. He pushed back against widespread criticism that he’s been excessively cautious.
The Government's coronavirus lockdown will come under sustained criticism from Conservative MPs worried about its impact on Britons' freedoms and damage to the economy. Monday's debate on the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) Regulations in the House of Commons will be the first time MPs have been able to discuss the lockdown powers. Several Tory MPs including Steve Baker, Sir Graham Brady, Sir Charles Walker and Robert Courts are expected to raise concerns that the lockdown risks damaging the economy and unnecessarily curtaining Britons' liberty.
Deleted User wrote: » The league will operate in a bubble with constant testing and isolation outside of the team bubble. If someone from Hoffenheim were to test positive for example, the game against Union Berlin would also be cancelled
ixoy wrote: » Are we not testing more? So of course, if we do, we'll find more when we've reduced the criteria for testing. These sorts of cases were always there, just hadn't met the criteria to be eligible before.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Ahhh, another day in lockdown. So, rangers in Wicklow Mountains National Park have been told to stay at home due to social distancing. They have the most isolated job on the planet as you can appreciate, wondering around the forest by themselves.Here, we will be laughed at for many years to come with our nonsense approach.News update - German Bundesliga will resume May 15th (1 week from now). 198 players will take to the pitch and break all social distancing rules Simon Harris wishes for for about 90 minutes.
In an email to 23 researchers from Arizona State University and the University of Arizona whose modeling on the spread of the coronavirus had helped guide Ducey’s implementation of social distancing guidelines, the state’s Department of Health Services informed the scientists that their services were no longer needed, effective immediately. “We realize that you have been, and continue to be working very hard on this effort, so we wanted to let you know as soon as possible so that you won’t expend further time and effort needlessly,” S. Robert Bailey, DHS bureau chief of public health statistics, wrote in the email, obtained by the Arizona Republic. Just a week after extending Arizona’s stay-at-home order until May 15, Ducey reversed course and announced Monday that barbershops and hair salons would be allowed to open Friday, with restaurants following suit on May 11.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » The ifs and buts and maybes 15th of May. playing football. Simon Harris must be raging.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » I very much doubt Simon Harris cares what the Bundesliga will or will not be doing on the 15th May or any other date thereafter. Nor should he.
tobefrank321 wrote: » And once restrictions are lifted that will go to 200-300 cases a day in a couple of weeks.
And it worked.
growleaves wrote: » Arizona Governor disbands scientific panel that modeled outbreak
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » But do you think its fine that our ministers do not look abroad for some guidance over how/when to exit lockdown? Do you think Simon Harris shouldnt look at other countries who are already 3 4 weeks out of lockdown and, if they dont have 10 000 + body bags on the streets maybe follow them? I think our government have cocooned themselves from the outside the world and lost touch with reality.
is_that_so wrote: » Good luck attempting to prove that. Refusing to say doesn't even get to court.
FishOnABike wrote: » Possibly time that people not giving details of where they planned to isolate were refused entry until they did provide details and then targeted for checking during the 14 day period. Providing false details or failure to isolate should be an offense.
Ms Ardern announced today that the Government's approach to Kiwis returning from overseas will change from New Zealanders being allowed to head home to them being put into quarantine facilities for two weeks. "That’s why from midnight tonight every New Zealander boarding a flight to return home will be required to undergo quarantine or managed isolation in an approved facility for a minimum of 14 days," Ms Ardern said. "I am also signalling that the requirement for 14 days of quarantine or managed self-isolation in a government-approved facility, will be a prerequisite for anyone entering the country in order to keep the virus out." The announcement comes after Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters told RNZ this morning travellers would be met at the airport and taken straight to a quarantine facility with military or police possibly involved in the transport.Mr Peters said the police and military could also be used to give other New Zealanders confidence in the system. "We're going to put in the resources so we get the New Zealand people confidence that the people that are their relations have a right to come home, but nevertheless will not endanger New Zealand people back here," he said. Ms Ardern said this afternoon the quarantining of returning New Zealanders will be a mammoth undertaking.
seamus wrote: » Eh, no. The evidence from elsewhere so far is that rates are kept under control with the simpler hygiene and distancing protocols. The purpose of the lockdown was to break the back of an infection which had already established a foothold. And it worked.
growleaves wrote: » Not established. You began by assuming the lockdown was necessary to prevent deaths and end by assuming it prevented deaths.
tobefrank321 wrote: » We went into lockdown at 90 cases a day. We are now up on 250 cases a day on average. Not exactly a huge improvement. Look, I'm all for lockdowns. There's no doubt it helped control and slow the spread. But lockdowns are of limited value. They give you time to put in place a longer term sustainable strategy such as improved controls in nursing homes, identifying and imposing strict cocooning of the at risk categories, getting a quarantine system up in place for inward travellers and putting technology in place such as heat scanners and fast turnaround tests at airports. We've done none of this. And you can't blame the general population for this before some attempts it. The fault for this failure lies squarely with the HSE and Government. We've wasted 8 weeks of our lockdown by not preparing ourselves properly for the lifting of restrictions. Once restrictions are lifted we will be back to square one in a matter of weeks.
AdamD wrote: » How many people were we testing a day when we got 90 positive results vs now? Its just not an honest comparison.
FishOnABike wrote: » All it needs is a doctor's opinion. It doesn't need to get to court before a person can be detained. They can challenge their ongoing detention but I expect it would be pointless as their quarantine period would have in all likelihood have expired before they would get a hearing.
fatalll wrote: » I think it did prevent deaths, surely you cannot deny that it did.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Forget vaccine. You really need to activate brain cells and forget the vaccine. Below is from official EU commission website " The text of the resolution just passed by a sufficient number in the Council of Europe Parliament says among other things, "In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines. The "bird-flu"-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu"-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health-budgets, but to the credibility and accountability of important international health-agencies."
growleaves wrote: » I presume it prevented some deaths yes. I don't think it has made a huge appreciable difference in terms of nos. of deaths, but would like to see significant evidence either way. Non-locked-down countries like Sweden, Belarus etc. do not have deaths in the 100,000s (as modelled orginally).
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