Relaxation of restrictions Part II

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Would you feel comfortable sitting in an enclosed cabin for several hours closely surrounded by other people even if wearing masks? I know I wouldn`t and will not be doing so even if foreign travel is opened up before the end of the year which realistically it won`t be.

No. I wouldn't be doing it personally. If other people want to there's no reason, come August, why they shouldn't be allowed to. You say foreign travel won't realistically be opened up before the end of the year...you do know that you could board a foreign flight, from Dublin, tomorrow if you wanted to?

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Too much doom mongering in this thread :cool:

What country have you moved on to today? For any that have seen some improvements, you just seem to find another one that has some sort of increase.

niallo27 wrote: »

Exactly I'd chance a flight to spain or Portugal. Cant hide away from it forever. If people want to stop living I have no problem with that but it's not for me.

Me too. A week in the Canaries would be fantastic I’d love to go

News update. Most powerful nation on earth doesnt take covid19 seriously.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/donald-trump-says-coronavirus-task-force-to-be-disbanded-1.4246225

And ofcourse as you may have heard, lockdown professor doesnt take it seriously either

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-government-scientist-neil-ferguson-resigns-from-sage-after-breaking-lockdown-rules-11983702


And just like that, covid19 became 90% less important over the course of 1 day.

Even professor lockdown didnt follow lockdown rules. You cant make this up.

I expect I seem very ignorant, but would somebody mind clarifying how the recent relaxation affects people like me? (Various things have been making it hard for me to keep up, including with this discussion). I have things like the gov.ie page bookmarked, but sometimes find it hard to see the wood from the trees there, especially with the wording sometimes being ambiguous or seemingly contradictory.
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We're a couple who've been confined to our home as over-70s, and I've got the impression that we may now go for a walk (with the usual distancing etc, of course). Is that correct? And if so, does that include those of us who have a garden?

I'm not interested in flouting the rules, or the spirit of them, or finding loopholes in the wording, but if it's a grey area at all I'd welcome any opinions.

It's not that I can't do exercises in the garden, or have any problem using technology to keep in touch, or have ever suffered from boredom - it's just that I find walking very good for thinking straight, and changes of view very mentally nourishing. Even going a few minutes up the nearest lane to get a higher viewpoint would be a boost!

Also I haven't been paying much attention to guidelines while outside the home, as they've been for other people. I'm only aware of the distancing ones, and permitted distance from home. If I can indeed now go for a walk, is there a limit on how often, or the time I can spend on it?

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

News update. Most powerful nation on earth doesnt take covid19 seriously.

Trump doesn't because he is an idiot.

1,747 new deaths today across the US, total 74,018 so far.

Sadly, it's going to get epic over there.

normanoffside wrote: »

Vienna Airport is reopening and you can do a test at the Airport which will allow you to avoid Quarantine

https://www.viennaairport.com/en/passengers

https://www.viennaairport.com/pcrtest

Vienna Airport wrote:

CORONAVIRUS PCR TESTS NOW POSSIBLE AT VIENNA AIRPORT
Vienna Airport now offers passengers the possibility to undergo molecular-biological COVID-19 testing (PCR test) at the airport. The test findings are available within a period of about three hours.

In contrast to antibody tests, PCR tests are designed to verify the existence of a COVID-19 infection. The results are only valid for the present time. For this reason, the possibility of coming down with the virus at a later time cannot be excluded.


WHAT THE ADVANTAGES OF MY BEING TESTED?
In accordance with valid government regulations, persons travelling to Austria at the present time must either present a medical certificate which confirms negative COVID-19 test results (PCR test not older than four days), or else they are required to begin a 14-day quarantine.

Arriving passengers without a valid medical certificate can get tested at the airport. If the test findings are negative, the passenger does not have to stay in self-quarantine for 14 days after arriving in Austria. In this way, quarantine periods which have already been commenced can also be prematurely terminated.

Passengers departing from Vienna Airport can use the medical certificate from the COVID-19 test to prove that they are not infected with the coronavirus.

The number of Covid-19 infections coming from the community is “persistant” and “not falling as much as we would like”, the Department of Health’s chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan has said.

From the Irish Times

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-community-infection-numbers-not-falling-as-much-as-we-would-like-1.4246650

Tony dropping hints, not good enough yet.

And it isn't. 265 new cases.

We are not in the right place.

Fogmatic wrote: »

I expect I seem very ignorant, but would somebody mind clarifying how the recent relaxation affects people like me? (Various things have been making it hard for me to keep up, including with this discussion). I have things like the gov.ie page bookmarked, but sometimes find it hard to see the wood from the trees there, especially with the wording sometimes being ambiguous or seemingly contradictory.
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We're a couple who've been confined to our home as over-70s, and I've got the impression that we may now go for a walk (with the usual distancing etc, of course). Is that correct? And if so, does that include those of us who have a garden?

I'm not interested in flouting the rules, or the spirit of them, or finding loopholes in the wording, but if it's a grey area at all I'd welcome any opinions.

It's not that I can't do exercises in the garden, or have any problem using technology to keep in touch, or have ever suffered from boredom - it's just that I find walking very good for thinking straight, and changes of view very mentally nourishing. Even going a few minutes up the nearest lane to get a higher viewpoint would be a boost!

Also I haven't been paying much attention to guidelines while outside the home, as they've been for other people. I'm only aware of the distancing ones, and permitted distance from home. If I can indeed now go for a walk, is there a limit on how often, or the time I can spend on it?

Yes, as I understand it, you can take a walk within 5km of your home. You're asked not to stop to talk to people, and to be sure to keep to the 2 km social distance. And better not to go to shops.
Hope that helps. Enjoy your walks, take care and stay well.

Fogmatic wrote: »

I expect I seem very ignorant, but would somebody mind clarifying how the recent relaxation affects people like me? (Various things have been making it hard for me to keep up, including with this discussion). I have things like the gov.ie page bookmarked, but sometimes find it hard to see the wood from the trees there, especially with the wording sometimes being ambiguous or seemingly contradictory.
.
We're a couple who've been confined to our home as over-70s, and I've got the impression that we may now go for a walk (with the usual distancing etc, of course). Is that correct? And if so, does that include those of us who have a garden?

I'm not interested in flouting the rules, or the spirit of them, or finding loopholes in the wording, but if it's a grey area at all I'd welcome any opinions.

It's not that I can't do exercises in the garden, or have any problem using technology to keep in touch, or have ever suffered from boredom - it's just that I find walking very good for thinking straight, and changes of view very mentally nourishing. Even going a few minutes up the nearest lane to get a higher viewpoint would be a boost!

Also I haven't been paying much attention to guidelines while outside the home, as they've been for other people. I'm only aware of the distancing ones, and permitted distance from home. If I can indeed now go for a walk, is there a limit on how often, or the time I can spend on it?

You can go for exercise within 5k radius of your home, the same as anyone else. There's no limit to how often or for how long. The ask is that you keep away from others.

I know you said you're not interested in flouting them, but these are not laws that are enforced upon you. They are only guidelines. Plenty of over 70's have been out and about since this all started. Its up to yourself really.

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I can guarantee you pal that come what may I will not be setting foot on an airplane in 2020 and very likely in 2021 as well.

I hope you reconsider. Like Bilbo Baggins said “It's a dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door. You step onto the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there's no knowing where you might be swept off to.

Even Bilbo knew there are risks in life.

normanoffside wrote: »

Good, we don't need cranky folks like you on our planes.
Stay in Cork

Wow, you have planes, Norman! Fair play to you.