Garda Checks

Discodog · 04-05-2020 02:12PM

mulbot wrote: »

So they can dictate where you buy groceries?

One Garda posted here that they can & one said they can't

mulbot · 04-05-2020 02:18PM

Discodog wrote: »

One Garda posted here that they can & one said they can't

AndrewJRenko · 04-05-2020 02:20PM

Discodog wrote: »

The limit is what an individual Garda decides. I know people that have driven 100 km with no issue & others that were told that they must use their closest supermarket.

Not true. A Court decides, not a Garda. A Garda can choose to prosecute you, but a Court makes the final decision.

Discodog · 04-05-2020 03:48PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Not true. A Court decides, not a Garda. A Garda can choose to prosecute you, but a Court makes the final decision.

The Garda tells you to turn around & if they choose, arrests you if you ignore their instruction. That's enough hassle for most people. I suspect that the Courts will look on convictions differently.

Most Gardai are being reasonable but there are a few that aren't.

AndrewJRenko · 04-05-2020 06:19PM

Discodog wrote: »

The Garda tells you to turn around & if they choose, arrests you if you ignore their instruction. That's enough hassle for most people. I suspect that the Courts will look on convictions differently.

Most Gardai are being reasonable but there are a few that aren't.

Yes, that is probably enough hassle for most people. I was just making the point that Gardai don't give convictions - courts do that.

na1 · 04-05-2020 08:28PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Just to clarify, the current 2km limit, which will be 5km from tomorrow, ONLY APPLIES TO EXERCISE and has no relevance to any other journey, such as shopping or caring for relatives. You can go 1km or 100km for shopping or to care for relatives. There is no limit on distance in current regulations for essential journeys.

From 5 May 2020, you can leave your house for exercise or for a drive, but you should continue to avoid contact with other people.

source:
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/covid19_what_you_need_to_do.html

Jim_Hodge · 04-05-2020 09:23PM

na1 wrote: »

From 5 May 2020, you can leave your house for exercise or for a drive, but you should continue to avoid contact with other people.

source:
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/covid19_what_you_need_to_do.html

That's the advice to those cocooning

"For people who are cocooning the public health advice is to continue to do so. However it will still be possible to go for a walk or a drive within 5 km of your home if you avoid all contact with other people."

For the rest of us the 5 km is for exercise only and anything beyond this is for essential journeys only - food, work, etc.

na1 · 04-05-2020 09:27PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That's the advice to those cocooning

"For people who are cocooning the public health advice is to continue to do so. However it will still be possible to go for a walk or a drive within 5 km of your home if you avoid all contact with other people."

For the rest of us the 5 km is for exercise only and anything beyond this is for essential journeys only - food, work, etc.

It doesn't say you can't drive to the point of exercise?

Or do you mean that only people over 70 can drive for 5 km (without essential reasons)?

Jim_Hodge · 04-05-2020 09:36PM

na1 wrote: »

It doesn't say you can't drive to the point of exercise?

Or do you mean that only people over 70 can drive for 5 km (without essential reasons)?

No it doesn't say that. Neither did I. You can drive to exercise provided the exercise remains within your original 5km. But you're not supposed to just go for a drive for the sake of it (I know, where's the harm?) except cocooners needing to get out for a while. Only they can leave the house to "go for a drive" as you put it. Just being pedantic, but it's how it was set out.

na1 · 04-05-2020 09:47PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

No it doesn't say that. Neither did I. You can drive to exercise provided the exercise remains within your original 5km. But you're not supposed to just go for a drive for the sake of it (I know, where's the harm?) except cocooners needing to get out for a while. Only they can leave the house to "go for a drive" as you put it. Just being pedantic, but it's how it was set out.

I was not arguing I was just trying to understand the restrictions.
The official statements seem to be misleading.

Breezin · 05-05-2020 12:30AM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You can drive to exercise provided the exercise remains within your original 5km. But you're not supposed to just go for a drive for the sake of it (I know, where's the harm?.

Equally, where's the harm in driving 100km? 200? There is none. Nada. Zero.

99nsr125 · 05-05-2020 12:32AM

Mister Vain wrote: »

I drove through a checkpoint yesterday and the guard didn't even stop me, he just waved me on. It's like they were there just for the sake of it.

There for the overtime they are

Drifter50 · 05-05-2020 08:29AM

I live beside the M50 and listening to traffic noise this morning we seem to be right back there at pre lockdown levels

d15ude · 05-05-2020 08:36AM

Drifter50 wrote: »

I live beside the M50 and listening to traffic noise this morning we seem to be right back there at pre lockdown levels

Think those are wind noises that you are hearing!
Just checked Google Maps traffic and the whole M50 shows green.

stephenjmcd · 05-05-2020 09:16AM

Drifter50 wrote: »

I live beside the M50 and listening to traffic noise this morning we seem to be right back there at pre lockdown levels

You can check on TII website for M50, I've just taken 1 point for example M50 northbound between J11 Tallaght and J12 Firhouse.
6am today 1952, 7am 3272, 8am 3504

Tuesday last week, 6am 1882, 7am 3233, 8am 3245.

On a normal pre restrictions day thats usually 6.5k at 6am, 10k at 7am and 9k at 8am.

So we're not back at pre lockdown levels. There's more cars than last week but still nowhere near normal

_Kaiser_ · 05-05-2020 09:52AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

You can check on TII website for M50, I've just taken 1 point for example M50 northbound between J11 Tallaght and J12 Firhouse.
6am today 1952, 7am 3272, 8am 3504

Tuesday last week, 6am 1882, 7am 3233, 8am 3245.

On a normal pre restrictions day thats usually 6.5k at 6am, 10k at 7am and 9k at 8am.

So we're not back at pre lockdown levels. There's more cares than last week but still nowhere near normal

Also worth noting of course that lockdown or not, many people have still had to go to work or other places regardless

Breezin · 05-05-2020 09:58AM

Increase in traffic reported today in Irish Times, who put it down to 'complacency' :rolleyes:

Also, the NI loophole is expected to add to pressure in Donegal:

Gardaí in the Border region believe next weekend is likely to have an even greater increase in traffic volumes as it is a bank holiday in the UK.

“People are coming across the Border and on to west Donegal or Sligo, places like Bundoran. It makes locals there wonder why they bother following the rules,” said one garda.

dashdoll · 05-05-2020 10:12AM

I've been down the country at my parents house since a planned visit on Paddys weekend. I'm not working at the moment due (partially due to Covid) but I rent in Dublin. Can I drive back to my place in Dublin during the next few weeks? It's ridiculous at this stage but don't fancy driving halfway up the country and being told to turn back. I need to get my stuff, collect post etc. Thanks

_Kaiser_ · 05-05-2020 10:14AM

dashdoll wrote: »

I've been down the country at my parents house since a planned visit on Paddys weekend. I'm not working at the moment due (partially due to Covid) but I rent in Dublin. Can I drive back to my place in Dublin during the next few weeks? It's ridiculous at this stage but don't fancy driving halfway up the country and being told to turn back. I need to get my stuff, collect post etc. Thanks

Same position here and no, legally you're not allowed until at least mid-July. (I rang several Garda stations and HQ for opinions but none would commit to anything beyond "It depends who you get on the checkpoint")

If however, your employer is classed as essential and you can get a letter stating that and covering you, you could probably do it - as I plan to this week.

dashdoll · 05-05-2020 10:22AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Same position here and no, legally you're not allowed until at least mid-July. (I rang several Garda stations and HQ for opinions but none would commit to anything beyond "It depends who you get on the checkpoint")

If however, your employer is classed as essential and you can get a letter stating that and covering you, you could probably do it - as I plan to this week.

Thanks. I can't get a letter from an employer but ot in a position to stay here until mid July. I'll have to just chance it after 18 May.

BMurr · 05-05-2020 10:24AM

Breezin wrote: »

Equally, where's the harm in driving 100km? 200? There is none. Nada. Zero.

True if you never leave your car or interact with anyone. You can't be sure if tgat though as you coukd have an accident, breakdown, etc etc.

_Kaiser_ · 05-05-2020 10:25AM

dashdoll wrote: »

Thanks. I can't get a letter from an employer but ot in a position to stay here until mid July. I'll have to just chance it after 18 May.

It's ridiculous alright. In my case my place has been empty for weeks now and there's zero risk in a straight A-B drive on the motorway to an empty house.

Have you any relatives in Dublin who would be classed as vulnerable? Travelling to check on them is permitted.

_Kaiser_ · 05-05-2020 10:27AM

BMurr wrote: »

True if you never leave your car or interact with anyone. You can't be sure if tgat though as you coukd have an accident, breakdown, etc etc.

There's lots of things that can happen, covid or not, but people have to get on with it regardless.

Otherwise we'd never set foot in a car.

odyssey06 · 05-05-2020 10:29AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

There's lots of things that can happen, covid or not, but people have to get on with it regardless. Otherwise we'd never set foot in a car.

The people who have to get on with it can drive 100 kms, but that's a defined list in the current phase.

beggars_bush · 05-05-2020 10:35AM

I've been down west twice since lockdown was imposed to do house maintenance for my elderly parents

Only met a garda checkpoint once and there was no bother

BMurr · 05-05-2020 10:48AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

There's lots of things that can happen, covid or not, but people have to get on with it regardless.

Otherwise we'd never set foot in a car.

But it's,all about Covid, breaking down, how do you think that plays out if you're 200km from home, could you spread the virus to the people from that area interacting with you.

_Kaiser_ · 05-05-2020 10:52AM

BMurr wrote: »

But it's,all about Covid, breaking down, how do you think that plays out if you're 200km from home, could you spread the virus to the people from that area interacting with you.

Have been isolating and taking precautions since before Paddys Day and living with a vulnerable person. Neither I or they are sick.

I think I'm good for a solo car trip to an empty house and back.

Breezin · 05-05-2020 10:53AM

BMurr wrote: »

But it's,all about Covid, breaking down, how do you think that plays out if you're 200km from home, could you spread the virus to the people from that area interacting with you.

So actually we can't travel because our vehicles are so unreliable?

In any case, I've never felt the urge to hug an oily mechanic or an AA man.

Really, this is a nonsense when set against the risks of contamination from other activities.

punisher5112 · 05-05-2020 10:53AM

Seen some of our Amish friends in their vans and mint caravans heading for the ferry through Dublin city centre last night.....

ax530 · 05-05-2020 10:54AM

NI Loophole - I was talking to someone in Belfast yesterday, he does not follow Irish media/news ect. He believes "restrictions are going to be eased kids back to school start of June" he pleased to be able to leave his house and head to caravan in Donegal after the weekend until they back to school.
I was telling him about the 'rules' in Ireland phased approach will be end July before camp sites can open ect all news to his ears. He then said oh I'll just head up get the place ready for July then ?!?!?!?
So maybe some marketing campaign is needed up in NI to let people know they cannot go to Donegal. I believe due to less restrictions and no testing higher chance of them having Covid too.
If I was in border counties watching people come and go on days out from NI would be frustrated.
I'm 8km for a beach really miss it had hoped it was 5km and I'd get to go today but checked distance. Really dissapointed and annoyed that my 'local' beach will most possibly be empty but I still wont go and others will travel 100+km from Belfast and enjoy a beach which possibly busier.

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