Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

MD1990 wrote: »

shame to see the rise in cases again.

but overall the cases have down over the week.

PmMeUrDogs wrote: »

The rise in cases seems concerning, hadn't we been dropping in the previous four days?

Eod100 wrote: »

Dr in French media claiming a patient had pneumonia on 27th December and they re-tested blood recently and it tested positive for covid19 suggesting it was in France before first case. Not sure how accurate it is but interesting.

https://twitter.com/BBCkatyaadler/status/1257004321306222592

Anyone else wonder whether the virus spreads as aggressively as we thought given it appears to have been in communities as much as 2 months before we thought?

Micky 32 wrote: »

There’s a lot you can do yourself, avoid gatherings, wash the paws often, no physical contact with strangers , keep your distance from them. There will be a vaccine eventually.

I watched this on paw patrol first.

rm212 wrote: »

Exactly the same sort of thing happening here today. I knew it would happen once they announced any easing, even if it was at a future date. Irish people are so like “ah sure it’ll be grand, I’ve been good for several weeks now, a bit of this won’t hurt, sure I’ve been careful to clean my hands and social distance, I’m not infected”. I’ve seen lots of family visiting their 60-70 year old grandparents today around here too. We’ll be lucky to even manage to meet the targets needed for phase 1 if this is going on in a widespread way unfortunately:(

My worry is there isn’t much of a threat, people think it’s fine, won’t happen to me. Everyone relaxes, we get a surge, then what? Lockdown again? Will people stand for that? Everyone “stayed in” for 8-10 weeks and no surge, then we get one. No one will attach responsibility to themselves for just popping over to the grandparents, etc. Government gets blamed. And then what?

rm212 wrote: »

Exactly the same sort of thing happening here today. I knew it would happen once they announced any easing, even if it was at a future date. Irish people are so like “ah sure it’ll be grand, I’ve been good for several weeks now, a bit of this won’t hurt, sure I’ve been careful to clean my hands and social distance, I’m not infected”. I’ve seen lots of family visiting their 60-70 year old grandparents today around here too. We’ll be lucky to even manage to meet the targets needed for phase 1 if this is going on in a widespread way unfortunately:(

It's the same everywhere. I was talking to my sister earlier today in Liverpool and the same carry on in Britain. Party's, football, social hangouts and similar responses by the police also. Don't go into estates but just stay on the main roads. Probably more lax over there from what I could gather.

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

My worry is there isn’t much of a threat, people think it’s fine, won’t happen to me. Everyone relaxes, we get a surge, then what? Lockdown again? Will people stand for that? Everyone “stayed in” for 8-10 weeks and no surge, then we get one. No one will attach responsibility to themselves for just popping over to the grandparents, etc. Government gets blamed. And then what?

This is exactly my fear too, well said. I find that a lot of Irish people have this annoying attitude of doing things halfway and saying it’s grand, but if it’s comes back to bite, they’ll claim like they did it 99%, if you know what I mean?

Gynoid wrote: »

Some people are in denial. They want things to be normal again. I think a lot of people cannot get their heads around the reality. We will have to learn to live going forward with a new cause of death and disability that did not exist before. Sure, we will go back out, but there is not the same world any more.

Yawn, I do love these posts. It must be great craic in your house during this lockdown. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but life WILL get back to normal eventually. Look at other pandemics, like the 1918 one that estimated 100million deaths worldwide. Where is the Spanish flu now? It eventually disappeared and the world flourished. 2020 normality is out for sure but in the next year or 2 things WILL be a lot different than today.

rm212 wrote: »

This is exactly my fear too, well said. I find that a lot of Irish people have this annoying attitude of doing things halfway and saying it’s grand, but if it’s comes back to bite, they’ll claim like they did it 99%, if you know what I mean?

The problem is that the 'powers that be' seem to be doing things 'half way' as well.

They are totally ignoring pre-symptomatic and silent spreaders by not requesting face covering for everyone in public. By the time symptoms appear in an individual the horse has bolted and then add the delay of getting results... makes contact tracing far more difficult than it should be.

Will we be the last country in Europe to recommend public masking ?

That and the failure to stop 'Day Trippers' from abroad run loose around the country.

As usual they do 'too little too late' as our case rate and death rate sadly testify.

Turtwig wrote: »

How does it change anything? It's interesting to know from the point of view of evolution of the disease and its original spread. But I don't get how it changes anything?

Only way I could see it as big news is if other countries start finding it then questions need to be asked how could something that apparently had very few cases in Wuhan had managed to spread to so many countries within a few weeks...

So based on reports from many parts of the country today from personal friends it appears lots of people were out and about today.

Our idiot government again being so stupid. The famous old saying 'if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile' comes to mind. They put out a phased reopening plan and that's the inch. How could you be so stupid to think that people will stay inside when you are telling them things are looking good?

Another story I was told today from a friend working at the airport is about Romanians flying in and out of the country collecting social welfare. Apparently the department got word of it and stopped a bunch of them at the airport and cancelled their pps numbers.

Now while it's good to hear about detection there is the situation that they were all coming in here not self-isolating and doing their business and leaving. If ever there was proof that we need state monitored self quarantine for everybody entering the country it was this.

The fact none of this made the news is a shocking pointer to how our media are hiding things instead of being honest and bringing us all the news. I can't post any proof myself because this information came from a friend who works at the airport and does not want to become a public figure even for a short time. I can guarantee you it's true though because this person to the best of my knowledge has never told a lie.

eagle eye wrote: »

So based on reports from many parts of the country today from personal friends it appears lots of people were out and about today.

Our idiot government again being so stupid. The famous old saying 'if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile' comes to mind. They put out a phased reopening plan and that's the inch. How could you be so stupid to think that people will stay inside when you are telling them things are looking good?

Another story I was told today from a friend working at the airport is about Romanians flying in and out of the country collecting social welfare. Apparently the department got word of it and stopped a bunch of them at the airport and cancelled their pps numbers.

Now while it's good to hear about detection there is the situation that they were all coming in here not self-isolating and doing their business and leaving. If ever there was proof that we need state monitored self quarantine for everybody entering the country it was this.

The fact none of this made the news is a shocking pointer to how our media are hiding things instead of being honest and bringing us all the news. I can't post any proof myself because this information came from a friend who works at the airport and does not want to become a public figure even for a short time. I can guarantee you it's true though because this person to the best of my knowledge has never told a lie.

Satire?

Micky 32 wrote: »

Yawn, I do love these posts. It must be great craic in your house during this lockdown. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but life WILL get back to normal eventually. Look at other pandemics, like the 1918 one that estimated 100million deaths worldwide. Where is the Spanish flu now? It eventually disappeared and the world flourished. 2020 normality is out for sure but in the next year or 2 things WILL be a lot different than today.

Exaclty right. This will be over in a year two at most or even if it is still around chances are it will be much weaker than it is now. The convential wisdom is that a virus like this will learn that it is better to he weaker as it can pass more easily between hosts. We are living through the worst of this now. They might be speradic outbreaks over the rest of the year but this virus will eventually be gone or at least a lot less lethal than it is now.

Could it be construed as good news because those that possibly had it back then are immune to it now, and thus verifies the belief that you can't get re-infected?

eagle eye wrote: »

So based on reports from many parts of the country today from personal friends it appears lots of people were out and about today.

Our idiot government again being so stupid. The famous old saying 'if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile' comes to mind. They put out a phased reopening plan and that's the inch. How could you be so stupid to think that people will stay inside when you are telling them things are looking good?

Another story I was told today from a friend working at the airport is about Romanians flying in and out of the country collecting social welfare. Apparently the department got word of it and stopped a bunch of them at the airport and cancelled their pps numbers.

Now while it's good to hear about detection there is the situation that they were all coming in here not self-isolating and doing their business and leaving. If ever there was proof that we need state monitored self quarantine for everybody entering the country it was this.

The fact none of this made the news is a shocking pointer to how our media are hiding things instead of being honest and bringing us all the news. I can't post any proof myself because this information came from a friend who works at the airport and does not want to become a public figure even for a short time. I can guarantee you it's true though because this person to the best of my knowledge has never told a lie.

What country were the romaine's flying from and too