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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I reckon they'll just accept about 3000 dead over this and plough on and claim they had projected [add makey uppy large number here], so that was a win. Didn't we do well.

    And people will believe it too, look at all the stupid ***** licking Leo's and Simon's holes on their Twitter. I'm telling ye, we have so many stupid people in this country that just cannot think about anything at all, we're as bad as the US these days, how do they even lead their daily lives with no semblance of logical thinking? They'll literally just read the spin in the media and be like "ah I suppose we did well so"


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    Again I don't think it's stupidity per se. I think most people are scared at some level, but we're also primed as a species not to panic. People are also very routine driven in everyday life and that comforts them and this has changed the psychology of that in a big way. Many are also very hierarchical in their thinking and that's reflected in most jobs and that authority is also comforting. So OK you got the morons, but most are just looking for answers to get their lives back and looking to authority to do that for them. The least jarring and the most calm sounding authority even if it spouts half truths, even contrary stuff will be listened to.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    Ok so I'm out of the loop with regards to the supply of masks. Are they generally in stock now? Where to buy? Recommend ones to purchase?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    I've seen the surgical kind in my local(Dublin) pharmacy and Spar. You can get them online too and cheaper, but others would have better info on that.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Leo said it himself on the late late tonight, it'll only be a guidance that'll be issued and it wont be enforceable.

    It's crazy that they think it's okay to pretty much put the entire country under house arrest for several months but can't enforce the covering of nose/mouth in enclosed spaces


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Just got some FFP2 masks in Decwells on George's St.

    The one on left is pretty expensive at €12 but the ones on the right are €8 for a pack of two, so not so bad:


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    Decwells looks like it's closed but there's a hatch at the front which you can buy stuff through.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    It's crazy that they think it's okay to pretty much put the entire country under house arrest for several months but can't enforce the covering of nose/mouth in enclosed spaces
    By going from vehemently against masks to making them mandatory in indoor public places they'd have to admit they were wrong. Never going to happen RL.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Yes: valved
    Wibbs wrote: »
    By going from vehemently against masks to making them mandatory in indoor public places they'd have to admit they were wrong. Never going to happen RL.

    Governor Cuomo of New York actually talking about masks right now on CNN has just stated that people have the right to jeopardise their own lives by not wearing masks but they've also no right to jeopardise his or others by not wearing them.

    Mask use in New York is compulsory, and everyone is doing it.

    Should be the same here - alas no ! :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    railer201 wrote: »
    people have the right to jeopardise their own lives by not wearing masks but they've also no right to jeopardise his or others by not wearing them.

    Great way of putting it. The first half I was like “but hang on” but then the rest makes it spot on. Masks and 90% respecting social distancing can go a hell of a long way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭shenanagans


    Yes: valved
    sterz wrote: »
    Ok so I'm out of the loop with regards to the supply of masks. Are they generally in stock now? Where to buy? Recommend ones to purchase?

    Reusable masks.....kid/adult. Support an Irish company/jobs

    Double layer too.....better than many online at present.

    https://www.stitches.ie/shop/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Yes: valved
    Great way of putting it. The first half I was like “but hang on” but then the rest makes it spot on. Masks and 90% respecting social distancing can go a hell of a long way.

    The CDC inspired me to make my own masks, not the WHO, or the HSE - you just have to admire the American can do spirit - Get the job done and write up the manuals later on !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Yes: valved
    Reusable masks.....kid/adult. Support an Irish company/jobs

    Double layer too.....better than many online at present.

    https://www.stitches.ie/shop/

    Very fair pricing to, seeing as they're hand made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Wibbs wrote: »
    By going from vehemently against masks to making them mandatory in indoor public places they'd have to admit they were wrong. Never going to happen RL.

    It's sad that they would rather cause more deaths and continue to destroy the economy instead of admitting they were wrong


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Galway's Irish Sockciety are doing cloth masks: https://irishsocksciety.com/collections/face-masks


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    No: I don't care enough
    Just got some FFP2 masks in Decwells on George's St.



    Decwells looks like it's closed but there's a hatch at the front which you can buy stuff through.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    No: other
    Very strange poll results imo. More than 50 percent claim to wear masks yet only around 10 percent of people on the streets & shops of Dublin seems to be wearing masks. Are the vast majority of non mask wearing people not bothered to vote? Results definitely not reflecting what I see all over Dublin on a daily basis.

    I had the misfortune to be at Beaumont Hospital during the week. Sat outside for two hours waiting for my wife. You could tell who were staff and who were visiting. Staff coming & going wore no masks. :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    Just on my own personal observation, but I noticed more people in masks even a week ago, of late very few. A good proportion were Asian folks, the rest were older. I've seen vanishingly few people under 50 wearing masks at all.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭Setanter


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I've seen the surgical kind in my local(Dublin) pharmacy and Spar. You can get them online too and cheaper, but others would have better info on that.

    Can be got online, pretty cheap think about a tenner for a pack of 10 or €50 for a box of 50 www.pharmacy.ie.

    Just seem to stock the surgical type but I emailed them and they are expecting stocks of KN95


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,551 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    No: other
    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Very strange poll results imo. More than 50 percent claim to wear masks yet only around 10 percent of people on the streets & shops of Dublin seems to be wearing masks. Are the vast majority of non mask wearing people not bothered to vote? Results definitely not reflecting what I see all over Dublin on a daily basis.

    I had the misfortune to be at Beaumont Hospital during the week. Sat outside for two hours waiting for my wife. You could tell who were staff and who were visiting. Staff coming & going wore no masks. :)

    boards.ie polls are never a good indication, strange gang we are, i live in a rural location with no reported cases for around 40k any direction, I go to the supermarket once a week and I think I have seen one person wearing a mask in it in a month. I have met a few vehicles on the road with the drivers wearing masks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    We know infection happens when the fluids of an infected person enters into the membranes of an non infected person. Fluids are usually expelled from coughs or sneezes. We know there are people who don't show any symptoms. So how does spread happen there?

    We also now know that people become infectious Approx. 2 days before symptoms appear.

    Wouldn't masks help to slow the spread of this? Especially now there's talk of opening up the economy and get things going again. Wouldn't we be in a better place if everyone wore masks in shops, public transport, etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,270 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    owlbethere wrote: »
    We know infection happens when the fluids of an infected person enters into the membranes of an non infected person. Fluids are usually expelled from coughs or sneezes. We know there are people who don't show any symptoms. So how does spread happen there?

    We also now know that people become infectious Approx. 2 days before symptoms appear.

    Wouldn't masks help to slow the spread of this? Especially now there's talk of opening up the economy and get things going again. Wouldn't we be in a better place if everyone wore masks in shops, public transport, etc.

    I mean yeah, slowing down infections and people dying is all well and good but on the other hand masks look a bit stupid.

    Its a pickle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,314 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Any proper sources for approved masks that were not made in someone's shed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Yes: surgical
    Probably less than 5% of people in the city center wearing any kind of face protection. Many also not caring at all about the social distancing. Some populations have responded with responsibility to the virus, the one in Dublin most certainly has not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Yes: surgical
    Probably less than 5% of people in the city center wearing any kind of face protection. Many also not caring at all about the social distancing. Some populations have responded with responsibility to the virus, the one in Dublin most certainly has not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,314 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    The_Brood wrote: »
    Probably less than 5% of people in the city center wearing any kind of face protection. Many also not caring at all about the social distancing. Some populations have responded with responsibility to the virus, the one in Dublin most certainly has not.

    I'd say for me on my trips to the supermarket in BAC this is now easily 25% plus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,168 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    The_Brood wrote: »
    Probably less than 5% of people in the city center wearing any kind of face protection. Many also not caring at all about the social distancing. Some populations have responded with responsibility to the virus, the one in Dublin most certainly has not.

    If that's outdoors then hardly surprising.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,755 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    No: other
    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Very strange poll results imo. More than 50 percent claim to wear masks yet only around 10 percent of people on the streets & shops of Dublin seems to be wearing masks. Are the vast majority of non mask wearing people not bothered to vote? Results definitely not reflecting what I see all over Dublin on a daily basis.

    I had the misfortune to be at Beaumont Hospital during the week. Sat outside for two hours waiting for my wife. You could tell who were staff and who were visiting. Staff coming & going wore no masks. :)

    this thread doesn't reflect the population at large, it attracts mostly the vehemently 'pro mask mob' (since the term 'anti-mask mob' has been used and unchallenged) to contribute. In the general public, it should be a much larger percentage who don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    Knock your socks off, grab and meme away....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares




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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Yes: other
    dfx- wrote: »
    this thread doesn't reflect the population at large, it attracts mostly the vehemently 'pro mask mob' (since the term 'anti-mask mob' has been used and unchallenged) to contribute. In the general public, it should be a much larger percentage who don't.
    I'm vehemently pro getting through this as fast as possible with as few deaths as possible by the best means possible that have worked elsewhere. Not just masks either. Sadly we've only implemented some of those means, half implemented others or only getting around to implementing the rest. Happily our small population has saved us from much of the worst of it and hopefully that continues and this thing doesn't keep spreading through the community so we can get the country restarted again.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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