Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

ek motor · 30-04-2020 05:26PM

Boris Johnson back in action today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZuqlLZ0V40

caveat emptor · 30-04-2020 05:30PM

celt262 wrote: »

There are two health care workers near me who have got it and recovered thankfully and none of there families have got it.

I find it very hard to understand that this highly contagious disease could avoid others living under one roof.

You could imagine that the workers in question are trained in infection control so probably take this very seriously when it comes to infecting family.

Most would have a plan in place. A room ear marked for isolation , preferably with an en suite. Meals dropped at the door etc. Windows open as much as possible. I've heard of a few stories where people managed to isolate themselves from family effectively and get through it.

ElTel · 30-04-2020 05:32PM

Beasty wrote: »

New York found 25% or so of the population has antibodies

Iceland did a lot of random sampling for Covid19

I think overall we've seen suggestions of 50% to 80% being asymptomatic,

Yeah Iceland are the country I could find most info on.
1% of population infected is "disappointing" if you assume another wave is inevitable.

Metroid diorteM · 30-04-2020 05:40PM

hmmm wrote: »

This is a pretty conclusive statement from the US intelligence community, and big kick-in-the-teeth for those who claim the virus was man-made.
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2112-intelligence-community-statement-on-origins-of-covid-19

"The entire Intelligence Community has been consistently providing critical support to U.S. policymakers and those responding to the COVID-19 virus, which originated in China. The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified."

That's the first half of the statement. The second half says they're still investigating whether it leaked out of Wuhan Lab.

Scientists in the media disown responsibility and point the finger at nature in every interview. The animal it came from apparently doesnt even live in the region where the virus started to spread.

So. Was it cultivated in a lab?

redarmy · 30-04-2020 05:40PM

BREAKING: A further 43 people diagnosed with Covid-19 have died, bringing the total number of deaths in Ireland to 1,232.

There are also 359 new confirmed cases in Ireland - total now 20,612.

Harry Palmr · 30-04-2020 05:40PM

Testing rate on a per capita basis.

Ireland about 31,000 per million

We're 7th on the list if you exclude the tiny states which are easy to do mass testing in

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EW3X9eyXYAMnsY5?format=jpg&name=medium

Gael23 · 30-04-2020 05:42PM

redarmy wrote: »

BREAKING: A further 43 people diagnosed with Covid-19 have died, bringing the total number of deaths in Ireland to 1,232.

There are also 359 new confirmed cases in Ireland - total now 20,612.

Why after 5 weeks of this are the deaths not dropping?

splinter65 · 30-04-2020 05:43PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Why after 5 weeks of this are the deaths not dropping?

Some if those people died a month ago.

Metroid diorteM · 30-04-2020 05:44PM

hmmm wrote: »

This is a pretty conclusive statement from the US intelligence community, and big kick-in-the-teeth for those who claim the virus was man-made.
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2112-intelligence-community-statement-on-origins-of-covid-19

"The entire Intelligence Community has been consistently providing critical support to U.S. policymakers and those responding to the COVID-19 virus, which originated in China. The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified."

That's the first half of the statement. The second half says they're still investigating whether it leaked out of Wuhan Lab.

Scientists in the media disown responsibility and point the finger at nature in every interview. The animal it came from apparently doesnt even live in the region where the virus started to spread.

So. Was it cultivated in a lab?

JP Liz V1 · 30-04-2020 05:45PM

redarmy wrote: »

BREAKING: A further 43 people diagnosed with Covid-19 have died, bringing the total number of deaths in Ireland to 1,232.

There are also 359 new confirmed cases in Ireland - total now 20,612.

RIP

10000maniacs · 30-04-2020 05:45PM

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Why are you misrepresenting the truth to such degree?

Is it intentional, are you cracking under the pressure, or are you just incapable - or not inclined maybe, of doing some basic research?

Like I said, if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck etc.

spookwoman · 30-04-2020 05:46PM

5.98% mortality using the numbers from tested and deaths. 0245% mortality on using 2018 population numbers

cnocbui · 30-04-2020 05:49PM

owlbethere wrote: »

How accurate are them Antibody tests? Do they give false positives?

Worse, they give false negatives. They aren't very accurate.

WomanSkirtFan8 · 30-04-2020 05:51PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

RIP

Absolutely. RIP.

Seven Septs · 30-04-2020 05:52PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Some if those people died a month ago.

You're terribly ill informed on everything Covid related. From your statement yesterday about letting Covid kill 2% of the population to this.

It takes a number of days to register deaths. The figure includes a few days, just as today's deaths will be included at a later date.

Of course deaths will remain high when you consider these deaths are from a 3 week lag of when we averaged 500 new cases daily.

As cases go down, which they are starting to do, deaths will follow in a 2-3week lag.

Beasty · 30-04-2020 05:53PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Some if those people died a month ago.

Wouldn't imagine there would be many going back that far, but equally I would think that most of those being reported today probably picked it up a month or even more ago as these restrictions were only just being introduced

Tiger Roll · 30-04-2020 05:54PM

Saw on Twitter, irish examiner saying nursing home cases increased on yesterday by 290 . Does this mean todays increase of 359 is only 69 new community cases ?

Tandey · 30-04-2020 05:56PM

They are saying the R is around 0.8 currently.

ZX7R · 30-04-2020 05:58PM

Tandey wrote: »

They are saying the R is around 0.8 currently.

Between 0.5 and 0.8

Harry Palmr · 30-04-2020 05:59PM

Poor old Phillip is nearly horse at this stage

Tandey · 30-04-2020 05:59PM

By what professor Philip Nolan is saying their is no chance of easing restrictions at the moment.

Tandey · 30-04-2020 06:00PM

ZX7R wrote: »

Between 0.5 and 0.8

No he said between .75 and .85

Where did you get 0.5 from?

Tandey · 30-04-2020 06:01PM

Holohan just said he’s not going to ease restrictions currently.

branie2 · 30-04-2020 06:06PM

RIP, the 43 people who died

Harry Palmr · 30-04-2020 06:08PM

And here's why an all ireland approach to this is very tricky to make real (nothing to do with unionist v republicans either)

https://www.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/correspondence/letter-regarding-statistical-information-relating-to-covid-19-in-northern-ireland/

BLIZZARD7 · 30-04-2020 06:08PM

Journalist spouting rubbish, Sweden has roughly x2 the number of deaths that we do and Ireland is ×3 as densely populated.

Carbon125 · 30-04-2020 06:08PM

owlbethere wrote: »

How accurate are them Antibody tests? Do they give false positives?

They do give false positives, which makes them frustratingly useless:

"Many companies and countries have pinned their hopes on antibody tests, which purportedly show whether someone has been infected by the coronavirus. One such test claims to correctly identify people with those antibodies 93.8 percent of the time. By contrast, it identifies phantom antibodies in 4.4 percent of people who don’t have them. That false-positive rate sounds acceptably low. It’s not. Let’s assume 5 percent of the U.S. has been infected so far. Among 1,000 people, the test would correctly identify antibodies in 47 of the 50 people who had them. But it would also wrongly spot antibodies in 42 of the 950 people without them. The number of true positives and false positives would be almost equal. In this scenario, if you were told you had coronavirus antibodies, your odds of actually having them would be little better than a coin toss."

Quoted from this article in The Atlantic which sums up what we know so far.

loughside · 30-04-2020 06:11PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Hong Kong... 1,038 Coronavirus cases and 4 deaths.
7.5 million people living literally on top of one another and crowded into an area slightly larger than County Dublin. (Pop. density 7140 per Km2). Very little warning about the Pandemic and surrounded by the country which was the epicenter of the infection.
Ireland... 20,253 Coronavirus cases and 1,190 deaths.

For God’s sake… just copy exactly what Hong Kong is doing and stop this effing virus in its tracks before even more damage is done.

And what Hong Kong is doing is this ... compare this to the free for all at Irish ports, come easy go easy....shameful.

No Entry for Non-Hong Kong Residents from Overseas, All Transit/Transfer Services Suspended

1. All non-Hong Kong residents coming from overseas countries/regions by plane will be denied entry to Hong Kong.

Compulsory Quarantine and COVID-19 Testing Arrangement

All Hong Kong residents coming from Mainland China, Macao, Taiwan and other overseas countries/regions by plane will be subject to a 14-day compulsory quarantine.

Starting from 22 April, all asymptomatic inbound travellers are required to take shuttle bus from Hong Kong International Airport immediately to the temporary specimen collection centre at AsiaWorld-Expo (AWE) to collect deep throat saliva samples in accordance with the instructions and submit the samples to the DH personnel at the venue for conducting COVID-19 test. They are also mandated to wait for test results at a designated location.

https://www.hongkongairport.com/en/important-notice/index.page?noticeid=1565255215067-2

wadacrack · 30-04-2020 06:12PM

Holohan asked about restrictions for the 100th time. He answer is int going to change and the modelling clearly shows why he shouldn't

phonypony · 30-04-2020 06:15PM

Good ole Shane 'I know you've already answered this question but I can't think on my feet, so I'll ask it again anyway' Beatty... A productive use of the time these guys give up every evening.

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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