Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Did he just say about 200 of today's cases are in the general public or did I hear that wrong?

Roughly 200 of cases today related to nursing homes

about 200 community transmissions a day they cant explain.

Low level of infection in general population

Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »

Why can't they just provide the figures they need to get to? Why the secret? "As low as possible" well what is that? 1, 5, 200?

Doesn't seem to be the 1 figure, would think its a combination of number currently in hospital and ICU, number of new cases and deaths per day, number of cases in community, number of cases in nursing homes etc so not a simple 1 figure as such I reckon.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Low level of infection in general population

That's the ones showing symptoms

splinter65 wrote: »

My point is that everyone has to die, of something eventually. As 98% of people who get covid DONT die of it then I’m starting to wonder why we don’t just get back to normal.

Covid is incredibly easy to contract and spread.

So, do the math. You reckon only 2% of people die from it - that's a matter of debate - but sure we'll use your projections.

So Ireland's population is 4.9 million. So 98,000 would be 2%.

Considering that this is a totally new highly infectious virus, for which there's no immunity for in the community it's not inconceivable that the of infection could potentially reach us all, quite quickly, within a few weeks.

Even if the rate of infection is only half that, that's still 50,000 deaths, within short order. Forget about hospitals being full, cemeteries will be full, people will die in their droves in their homes, to be buried in the garden by loved ones. Society won't function with that level of death happening all at once.

People going on about depression now, how do think people's mental health will be if all that comes to pass? Add a few thousand onto that death toll.

The potential for a level of horror on a simply unimaginable scale is still real, people still don't get that.

The sacrifices we have to make now are nothing - absolutely nothing - to what could potentially happen.

Posts like yours annoy me: they are absolutely idiotic. Use your brain! Think about what is at stake

splinter65 wrote: »

My brother and my cousins husband were both very sick with it but didn’t go to hospital. The truth is we don’t know what % would actually need to be hospitalised.
The very sick and very old who get it don’t need to be hospitalised unless there’s a very good chance that they’ll recover.
People don’t want to hear that but it’s true.
They need to be allowed to die in comfort and dignity in familiar surroundings.

Christ! You really have no idea how this thing affects people. I'm glad your relatives were ok but they were lucky. Spare some thought for the minority who will die or suffer serious illness from this. You may say it's being realistic but it's selfish and lacky basic humanity. My sister in law only recovered because there was room in ICU for her. Had there been even a few more people needing treatment she may have died.

Arghus wrote: »

Posts like yours annoy me: they are absolutely idiotic. Use your brain! Think about what is at stake

Don't forget also that the fatality rate in Wuhan hit 5.9% when the hospital system became overloaded.

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Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You seem to be of the assumption it gets to 100 a day and is going to magically remain around there.

It's very contagious (average 2 - 2.2 R0 and as high as 5.7 has been observed), more than the seasonal flu.

Once it goes over 1 it can get out of control very quickly then you have to reimpose restrictions.

The problem is much deeper than simply saying "it's 100 per day, let's lift restrictions". Nothing has fundamentally changed from when this began that i'm aware of.

That's as good as it's going to get for now I'm afraid.

s1ippy wrote: »

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-recovery.html



I'm on a "Slack" group (like Discord) with thousands of people who have had this virus and their testimonies are less than encouraging.

There's a subsection for people 60+ days after testing positive and here's an excerpt.

There are thousands and thousands of people saying they first showed symptoms 40+ days ago with very little improvement, coming and going day to day. Additionally a couple I know who lived between London and Paris when the lockdowns began contracted Covid and they're still not over it, one has no more sense of taste or smell and the other gets very bad blood noses and migraines out of nowhere.

It causes the body to attack its own defence systems and the antibody tests are incredibly unreliable at this point. We don't know how long anyone has immunity for and we don't have enough data to see the long-term effects on people's organs, but what we are seeing is a lot of "mild" cases - in MANY of those instances "mild" seems just to mean that you don't die there and then. What a benchmark.

Hi. What slack group is that, if you don’t mind sharing, Pm me if you want. As the burning sensation and GI and headaches are some of the symptoms I’m still displaying

ACitizenErased wrote: »

He said 200 of today’s cases are nursing homes, the remainder are from the general public. Not a bad number for the public.

Depends what's included in the "general public". Front line workers, or people who find the "lockdown" too inconvenient to heed..?