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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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  • #4982
    C__MC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭C__MC


    The media ask the tamest questions at those briefings

    Someone needs to say it as it is


  • #4983
    Podge201
    Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭Podge201


    C__MC wrote: »
    The media ask the tamest questions at those briefings

    Someone needs to say it as it is

    Plenty heroes on here that could.


  • #4984
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I’m confused, what will be the benefit of extending lockdown when the majority of new cases and over 50% of deaths are in care homes? 593 is apparently how many deaths are from care homes. Most of the rest are also over 70s.

    Is the threat big for people below 70?

    Big enough to justify destroying our economy?

    No absolutely not. The justification of the lockdown is non existant. Consider following statement on Gov.ie as of this evening "there are now 19,877 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland". That suggests 20,000 active cases, Covid lasts an average of 2 weeks, we started testing 8 weeks ago. There is no know figure for active cases so testing is irrelevant.

    ICU is the only measured metric that should be used but that figure has also been hidden behind smoke and mirrors.
    Death rate is also useless information as end of life patients are considered to be dying from Covid as opposed to the health issues that caused terminal illness.


  • #4985
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Numbers of hospital admissions and numbers in ICUs are continuing to decrease, and we're nowhere near ICU capacity.


  • #4986
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    road_high wrote: »
    I don’t think so either but the usual targets like PAYE workers will suffer- public and private sector workers

    I'm telling you if workers and unions here had as half as much balls as their French counterparts had there'd be none of that. Irish workers have been a week species for far too long.


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  • #4987
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Imagine asking such a stupid question about having an American football match in the Aviva in august with 35000 Americans at the National daily briefing. Who even cares?


  • #4988
    SNNUS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭SNNUS


    What is the point of saying there is 20,000 cases? More than half have recovered if not more so I don't understand why it's used as a daily update of infected people.


  • #4989
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    Imagine asking such a stupid question about having an American football match in the Aviva in august with 35000 Americans at the National daily briefing. Who even cares?

    To be fair it's not a bad question, it's an event that doesn't need a licence and in a backwards way he was asking about mass gatherings. The CMO wouldn't say as he said himself it's a long time away


  • #4990
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    Imagine asking such a stupid question about having an American football match in the Aviva in august with 35000 Americans at the National daily briefing. Who even cares?

    August is a long time away. I doubt that match will affect one nursing home case if it was on this weekend


  • #4991
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Podge201 wrote: »
    Plenty heroes on here that could.
    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    Imagine asking such a stupid question about having an American football match in the Aviva in august with 35000 Americans at the National daily briefing. Who even cares?

    Wouldn't be hard if ^^^ is the standard.


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  • #4992
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,458 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Is it just me or is it bonkers silly the CMO every day sayi g the same thing about restrictions staying or being eased? Same question and answere every fooking day..


  • #4993
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Tony nicely dodged giving an exact number for where he wants to see ICU numbers.


  • #4994
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    To be fair it's not a bad question, it's an event that doesn't need a licence and in a backwards way he was asking about mass gatherings. The CMO wouldn't say as he said himself it's a long time away

    Gathering of 5000 banned until September or just licenses?


  • #4995
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    To be fair it's not a bad question, it's an event that doesn't need a licence and in a backwards way he was asking about mass gatherings. The CMO wouldn't say as he said himself it's a long time away

    What does a license have to do with anything? Whatever about easing restriction (which I’m in favour of) it would be ridiculous to have 35000 Americans come here this side of the new year imo


  • #4996
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    easypazz wrote: »
    Gathering of 5000 banned until September or just licenses?

    Just events that need a licence. Sporting events in stadiums dont need licences


  • #4997
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    What does a license have to do with anything? Whatever about easing restriction (which I’m in favour of) it would be ridiculous to have 35000 Americans come here this side of the new year imo

    I agree but it's a way in to ask the question with an example and see what answer they get.


  • #4998
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    What does a license have to do with anything? Whatever about easing restriction (which I’m in favour of) it would be ridiculous to have 35000 Americans come here this side of the new year imo

    Licensing etc is irrelevant I think. Relaxation of restrictions will likely be accompanied by a quarantine upon arrival, maybe not for travellers from the EU or the Common Travel Area, but certainly from the Americas, Asia or Africa. So no chance 35000 people will be travelling


  • #4999
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    hmmm wrote: »
    Interesting idea being proposed in New York - close off streets, and allow restaurants to serve guests in the open air.

    It's ideas like this that we need here too, and businesses should be pushing for.
    Lithuania doing the same thing.

    I like it. Could be cold but potentially exciting. Just need to find a load of massive tarpaulins.
    https://www.foodandwine.com/news/restaurants-reopen-al-fresco-dining-closed-streets-coronavirus


  • #5000
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,145 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    walshb wrote: »
    Is it just me or is it bonkers silly the CMO every day sayi g the same thing about restrictions staying or being eased? Same question and answere every fooking day..

    Why is he even answering. It should be a stock answer of "that's for the government to decide". He's the CMO, not the ruler of this country although maybe he's starting to believe he might actually be.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #5001
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,145 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-handling-burden-flu-patients/

    Came across an interesting article today. The similarities are striking yet the reaction completely different.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • #5002
    Dickie10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    wjat is the story with gatherings of 5000? like sept 1st isint that faraway. i would imagine there will be a month of up to 2500 before this in August? thats GAA club games and small race meeting well within reach. i would say restaurunts and the like with under 100 people will be well up and running by july at that rate. surely not going to let over 5000 people gather in september out of nowhere


  • #5003
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Rte reporting earlier that we wont see any dates associated with Fridays expected announcement, rather clinical phases associated with each phase, cases under x, ICU under Y etc.


  • #5004
    robbiezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    Rodin wrote: »
    But wait...
    There's essential dog grooming to be done....

    Really nasty post aimed at someone who is struggling.


  • #5005
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Rte reporting earlier that we wont see any dates associated with Fridays expected announcement, rather clinical phases associated with each phase, cases under x, ICU under Y etc.

    Back to that "at an appropriate time" crack

    Some plan that is

    That really won't go down well with people


  • #5006
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Rte reporting earlier that we wont see any dates associated with Fridays expected announcement, rather clinical phases associated with each phase, cases under x, ICU under Y etc.

    If that is the case then I can see a lot of people flouting the restrictions because the government won't be upfront with the people and at least give them some sort of a timeline


  • #5007
    Spencer Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    giveitholly wrote: »
    If that is the case then I can see a lot of people flouting the restrictions because the government won't be upfront with the people and at least give them some sort of a timeline

    You say this but realistically what are they going to do other than visit family and friends? Everything will remain shut.


  • #5008
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Back to that "at an appropriate time" crack

    Some plan that is

    That really won't go down well with people

    Yeah that wont get buy in if it's what turns out to be the case. Could see people just deciding to go and visit family for a start


  • #5009
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Exactly

    They will lose a lot of public support by going down that road


  • #5010
    cython
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭cython


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Back to that "at an appropriate time" crack

    Some plan that is

    That really won't go down well with people

    To be fair, if they actually established a concrete frame of reference for any of the metrics in that manner (the exception maybe being when they said we needed the growth rate under 5% - It's now under 2.....) it would be more of a commitment than any of the recent vague announcements.


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  • #5011
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Spencer Brown wrote: »
    You say this but realistically what are they going to do other than visit family and friends? Everything will remain shut.

    Well, visiting family and friends for a start.

    And going further than 2km to do it.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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