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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #5912
    Tandey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭Tandey


    Stheno wrote: »
    What was his reasoning?

    He said that we are off where other countries that are easing restrictions are.


  • #5913
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Stheno wrote: »
    What was his reasoning?

    The figures (including ICU admissions) are not as low as he would like.


  • #5914
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Bambi wrote: »
    I note with interest that New Zealand is declaring community transmission of coronavirus at zero and easing some restrictions, having implemented a travel ban and quarantine for all visitors right from the outset

    Also note with interest that back in the early days of this ****show the original Corvid-19 thread was full of idiots who shouted down any suggestion that Ireland should do something similar...

    Its incredible. I'm also disappointed. I was on the side of restrictinf travel. We would be doing so much more better. I remember someone replying to me say, it's here in the country now. We can't stop it, we can only slow it. It's like thugs turning up to your door for a break in and you open your door and let them in without fighting. I'm fuming now seeing how great new Zealand is doing.


  • #5915
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    UsBus wrote: »
    Did a journalist just ask CMO about holding a wedding...????? Totally justified to fire the microphone at him...bellend

    As much as I think journalists are sniveling, lying pieces of ****, I know people due to get married this year. They are angry, impatient, annoyed and hurt their weddings are postponed. Their range of emotions want them to go ahead ASAP

    Rightly or wrongly, do not underestimate the stupidity of those with two legs.

    Personally, I think they're mad to even have a wedding in healthy times, never mind during a pandemic


  • #5916
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Whether people will say it or not, it's obvious why nursing homes weren't prioritised and correct imo.

    Finite number of resources means those with less chance of survival have to be left behind. In the earlier days, we didn't have the PPE or testing capacity to allow for testing of them. Would people rather nursing home staff got PPE or nurses in hospitals, as it was in effect and either or choice. We didn't have enough for both. One of the nursing homes were stained staff were leaving to go work for the hse, so actual nurses was a constraint.

    It might be crap to say it or acknowledge it, but it happens everywhere when you have resource constraints.


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  • #5917
    Infini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,651 ✭✭✭Infini


    Numbers of new cases have been up and down last few days, like 700ish one day and then 300ish the next.


  • #5918
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Stheno wrote: »
    What was his reasoning?

    Science and sense. I am not going to paraphrase him here and get ripped to shreds for doing it.

    I am sure the press conf will be available to play back , somewhere.


  • #5919
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Tony avoiding the question.


  • #5920
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,099 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Have we hit the peak / surge / first wave?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #5921
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Houlihan basically confirmed we cant lift restrictions. Not a bad day but not doing enough tbh

    Did he say we can’t lift them on 5th of May or lift them today ?


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  • #5922
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Infini wrote: »
    Numbers of new cases have been up and down last few days, like 700ish one day and then 300ish the next.

    Probably due to nursing homes. Hitting more affected homes one day and less affected the next


  • #5923
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    If I heard him right he just said that he would not want differing measures here and in NI which would imply restrictions would not be lifted until NI do


  • #5924
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Have we hit the peak / surge / first wave?

    No.


  • #5925
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,162 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Another journalist not aware of the law.


  • #5926
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Infini wrote: »
    Numbers of new cases have been up and down last few days, like 700ish one day and then 300 ish the next.

    We are a small country there will be fluctuations in the data set day on day, it can be down to the different sources they get the information. Its best to look at 5 day averages, which is what the medical experts are doing , that and analysis death figures on the day they occurred not when they were notified.

    The numbers we hear day on day are as much a media exercise as anything else.


  • #5927
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Science and sense. I am not going to paraphrase him here and get ripped to shreds for doing it.

    I am sure the press conf will be available to play back , somewhere.

    Can you explain what he said for us that can’t see the briefing, thanks


  • #5928
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Did he say we can’t lift them on 5th of May or lift them today ?

    He's quoted on rte news that he hasn't made up his mind what decision he would recommend to the government on continuing or easing of restrictions
    He wants to encourage people to work within the restrictions to drive down new infections


  • #5929
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Can you explain what he said for us that can’t see the briefing, thanks

    He just repeated it

    Basically he wants further improvements in the amount of new cases, cases in residential care, numbers in hospital and ICU and numbers of deaths

    Also want to reduce restrictions only when NI do

    NI are at least two weeks before they lift restrictions


  • #5930
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,620 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Have we hit the peak / surge / first wave?

    I think we're just about keeping a lid on it


  • #5931
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    No new cases then the lockdown lifted some lad on the news just said that


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  • #5932
    [Deleted User]
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    Stheno wrote: »
    If I heard him right he just said that he would not want differing measures here and in NI which would imply restrictions would not be lifted until NI do

    NI is going to extend, if utterances by Boris and chums today are anything to go by

    I think that it makes sense to wait for UK situation to calm down before releasing in Ireland, and then decisions re. quarantine, movement, closing borders etc can be taken on a Common Travel Area basis. Which I think would be better for everyone (and keep MoL happier!)


  • #5933
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Im not against keeping the current restrictions in place longer but

    1.1 million in receipt of some form of payment from the State is not sustainable for long especially when State income will be so low.

    I'm not saying ths economy is more inportant either but that figure of 1.1 million cannot be ignored


  • #5934
    Tandey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭Tandey


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Did he say we can’t lift them on 5th of May or lift them today ?

    He said as it is today he wouldn’t lift them but still a few days till the 5th.
    If the rate continues to drop till then, some restrictions could be lifted.


  • #5935
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,338 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Im not against keeping the current restrictions in place longer but

    1.1 million in receipt of some form of payment from the State is not sustainable for long especially when State income will be so low.

    I'm not saying ths economy is more inportant either but that figure of 1.1 million cannot be ignored

    In fairness, I'd say each and every one of them is fully aware of the problems with this

    It's the finest of balancing acts : try and suppress the virus without killing off the economy


  • #5936
    uncleoswald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Its incredible. I'm also disappointed. I was on the side of restrictinf travel. We would be doing so much more better. I remember someone replying to me say, it's here in the country now. We can't stop it, we can only slow it. It's like thugs turning up to your door for a break in and you open your door and let them in without fighting. I'm fuming now seeing how great new Zealand is doing.
    You may not like to hear it but it's true. Using your analogy, because of Irelands position in the world, the thugs were already in the house but you were still going on about barricading the front door. New Zealand's isolation meant they had a chance to stop covid from taking hold in the population, even if they acted long after us.


  • #5937
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Gynoid wrote: »
    I would say the seismic shockwave from heads exploding in Dublin if restrictions were maintained there and let up elsewhere would rip a hole in the fabric of the Universe.
    You never know it might open up a wormhole and Dublin will be sent to some parallel universe


  • #5938
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,620 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Deleted User wrote: »
    NI is going to extend, if utterances by Boris and chums today are anything to go by

    NI could lift before Britain, think even Scotland are thinking of lifting restrictions before England/Wales

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-52390373
    Coronavirus: NI lockdown could lift at different pace, suggests Arlene Foster


  • #5939
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Did he really say that the wearing of masks can lead to the spread of the virus in some cases


  • #5940
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Stheno wrote: »
    If I heard him right he just said that he would not want differing measures here and in NI which would imply restrictions would not be lifted until NI do

    But we started our lock down before NI? they ddin't care then...


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  • #5941
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    The red haired one.

    Yes I would


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