Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

speckle · 27-04-2020 05:48PM

left field question. Do plants/trees absorb and filter viruses along side pollution? Then expel more oxygen for us? Have greener planted cities or countries or, cities with more open buildings or old style windows been hit less?

Hooter23 · 27-04-2020 05:49PM

Strange how people that get the flu vaccine have to get it every year...yet they are saying the corona virus vaccine will work for all strains of the virus...they know this even though the vaccine hasnt even been developed yet...

podgeandrodge · 27-04-2020 05:50PM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

China wielding the big stick!
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/1254611217156468736

Hilarious. Were calling travel bans racist not too long ago. Along with a few others.

Lyle · 27-04-2020 05:50PM

is_that_so wrote: »

That's just stats on where those cases occurred, not the rate of transmission. Community transmission really means catching it anywhere outside a medical location or a residential home.

Gotcha. Like I said, struggling to keep abreast of everything flying around the place, especially some of the minutiae and terminology!

Whatever they decide in the next few days I just hope they put in enough time between the different phased re-openings to ensure that transmission doesn't go wild. Three weeks seems more advisable to me than the gap of two, for example, the Italians have put between their phases, because there will be some asymptomatic people emerge from households and the whole 14 day time frame could be too short to see the domino effect from one of those cases. The Pandemic Payment etc running till mid June gives them the scope to be over cautious, I hope they take it.

BorneTobyWilde · 27-04-2020 05:50PM

These new garda checkpoints are an admission of failure. We're already in lockdown.

twirlagig · 27-04-2020 05:51PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Any news as to when the briefing is on?

I’d say any minute now. It’s usually around now

bennyl10 · 27-04-2020 05:52PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

These new garda checkpoints are an admission of failure. We're already in lockdown.

This isn’t a lockdown in any sense

There are restrictions sure, and they want them to be forced, as they should.

We aren’t in lockdown.

Mental Mickey · 27-04-2020 05:52PM

twirlagig wrote: »

I’d say any minute now. It’s usually around now

Was supposed to be 545 according to Fergal Bowers

spookwoman · 27-04-2020 05:53PM

Hooter23 wrote: »

Strange how people that get the flu vaccine have to get it every year...yet they are saying the corona virus vaccine will work for all strains of the virus...they know this even though the vaccine hasnt even been developed yet...

It's for new mutations and antibodies can sometimes only last a year and maybe even less

s1ippy · 27-04-2020 05:53PM

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

The second one, for example, is correspondence in a journal, not a peer reviewed article.

But in any event, none of these links discuss the spread of the virus, so much as the operation of same. So they in no way support your contention that it is likely to become the number 1 cause of death.

I didn't know there was a distinction between correspondence and the articles themselves in those publications, so thanks for pointing that out to me

My view that there is not necessarily any recovering from this is based on the growing body of scientific research indicating what the virus is currently doing to people.

My response to this is let's not all rush out to get it before we see the long-term impact it has on those who have "recovered", although I use that term very loosely based on what is being described by survivors of this.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-52124554

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/opinion/coronavirus-recovery.html

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1191831

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2020/04/14/survivors-of-coronavirus-on-their-experience-and-new-perspective

I'm mildly surprised that more people don't feel the way I do, but then I think of the things people usually do and I'm not that surprised. Also there are a very silent cohort of people who feel this way and just don't feel the need to engage with people who don't agree with them. Because, let's face it, why bother justifying myself when everyone's opinion is just as valid at this point.

https://unherd.com/2020/04/which-epidemiologist-do-you-believe/

It's people who feel that they have no choice other than to go to work and put themselves at risk who I hope to reach. Frontline workers and other essential employees are 100% heroes in this but a not insubstantial portion of people I know in these areas have quit, or are on extended leave, and I can absolutely understand why. As the impact of this gets worse, more will follow them due to obligation or circumstance. There are going to be some very dark days ahead when people are no longer so brave in the face of such tremendous risks.

It's important to keep things in perspective but not just because you want to go on your summer holidays. Perspective should involve checking in query the worst-case scenario as well as being hopeful that it won't happen

Dyr · 27-04-2020 05:54PM

I note with interest that New Zealand is declaring community transmission of coronavirus at zero and easing some restrictions, having implemented a travel ban and quarantine for all visitors right from the outset

Also note with interest that back in the early days of this ****show the original Corvid-19 thread was full of idiots who shouted down any suggestion that Ireland should do something similar...

kilkenny31 · 27-04-2020 05:54PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

This isn’t a lockdown in any sense

There are restrictions sure, and they want them to be forced, as they should.

We aren’t in lockdown.

There is no such thing as a lockdown, we are in a lockdown as much as any other country in europe is. The government has told us we should stay in our homes. That is a as bad of a lockdown Ireland is ever going to get.

twirlagig · 27-04-2020 05:54PM

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Was supposed to be 545 according to Fergal Bowers

Not unusual for it to be late starting I think.

spookwoman · 27-04-2020 05:54PM

https://twitter.com/ShaneBeattyNews/status/1254816169212682242?s=20

bennyl10 · 27-04-2020 05:55PM

17 and 386 for today

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2020 05:55PM

RIP to the 18 who have passed.

386 new cases

spookwoman · 27-04-2020 05:56PM

https://twitter.com/ciananbrennan/status/1254816485618470913?s=20

bennyl10 · 27-04-2020 05:56PM

Considering that’s Monday figures, which have usually been quite high this is surely a good sign?

An Ciarraioch · 27-04-2020 05:56PM

At least the deaths appear to have peaked, even if the cases remain too high.

Deeper Blue · 27-04-2020 05:56PM

I really think the "We're not in lockdown/Yes we are/No we're not" tit for tat should be banned from the thread. Sick of reading it, it adds nothing to the thread. Just a thought.

SleetAndSnow · 27-04-2020 05:57PM

Kildare now has more confirmed cases then cork

Gael23 · 27-04-2020 05:57PM

No justification for current measures remaining in place beyond May 5th with those figures

KrustyUCC · 27-04-2020 05:58PM

Little bit more positive number of cases today

Hope we can get them lower

New Home · 27-04-2020 05:59PM

bekker wrote: »

AFAIR in Lombardy, intubated ventilation was the default, and it was when they had to put patients on to CPAP, while waiting it that they found over 30% recovered without requiring to be put on an intubated ventilator.

An interesting article here:

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00134-020-06033-2

Type-L vs Type-H Covid-19 Pneumonia

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2020 05:59PM

Gael23 wrote: »

No justification for current measures remaining in place beyond May 5th with those figures

They're not happy with nursing homes and long term care settings. It's in the statement from this evening.

Dont think they should be using that as a reason to keep the general population under the same restrictions though

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2020 06:00PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1254817419031347200?s=19

Just awful, so of our total numbers 6855 are residential settings

MD1990 · 27-04-2020 06:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Fingers crossed the concerted drop in numbers is indicative of a broader trend. The last week has been like a yo-yo, need consistency if restrictions are to be relaxed.

need more testing & cases less than 100 a day to ease restrictions.

Just one day as well. But good to see them going down

KrustyUCC · 27-04-2020 06:01PM

No

That's not a justification for extending restrictions

Best thing we can do for nursing homes is to continue to stay away

An Ciarraioch · 27-04-2020 06:01PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They're not happy with nursing homes and long term care settings. It's in the statement from this evening.

Dont think they should be using that as a reason to keep the general population under the same restrictions though

Or maintain them in Greater Dublin, but ease them elsewhere?

Alf Veedersane · 27-04-2020 06:01PM

speckle wrote: »

left field question. Do plants/trees absorb and filter viruses along side pollution? Then expel more oxygen for us? Have greener planted cities or countries or, cities with more open buildings or old style windows been hit less?

There was a study done on the correlation between forest fragmentation and patterns of outbreak of Ebola in Africa. More for further analysis but an interesting find.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep41613?platform=hootsuite

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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