Is it just me or have SF vanished?

maccored · 27-04-2020 02:22PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Don’t be so precious. You were the one complaining about the thread being boring. And now you just can’t stop posting...

aye - having to reply to your inane posts ... which I wont be bothering with after this one

all about the mane · 27-04-2020 02:24PM

maccored wrote: »

aye - having to reply to your inane posts ... which I wont be bothering with after this one

You don’t have to reply. Funny that you felt you did.

Shefwedfan · 27-04-2020 02:25PM

Thread was started 20 March, nothing really has changed

SF is no closer to getting into government. Which in my opinion is a pity as I would prefer to see them in now than listening to 5 years of "change" etc.

Some people seem to thin SF will resolve all the issues, so they will all have less tax to pay and somehow everyone else will pay it, plus a new house or rent-free accommodation. That is never going to happen I hate to tell you.

I think, personal opinion, supporters of other parties seem a little more realistic in what a government can actually achieve.

Hence why I would like to see SF get in, I think people will quickly find Mary Lou and the rest quickly back tracking on the "manifesto" and blaming FF/FG or anyone as to why they can not deliver.

At this stage I expect 5 years of "Well SF would have done XYZ" but with zero back up from anyone if they could ever do it. By the looks of it will SF even in 5 years time be in a position to actually win more votes? if so then need to go on a serious hiring campaign for politicians. If the likes of Voilet etc continue as they have started they will still be seen as party not really capable of stepping up to run a country....

maccored · 27-04-2020 02:31PM

all about the mane wrote: »

You don’t have to reply. Funny that you felt you did.

hilarious

Colonel Claptrap · 27-04-2020 03:04PM

Today's theme: This thread is boring and offers no substance so let's fill pages with ridicule and guff.

Has anyone got an actual opinion on the article I posted?

It appears to be buried in a sea of crap.

all about the mane · 27-04-2020 03:09PM

maccored wrote: »

hilarious

See, not so boring after all.

TheCitizen · 27-04-2020 03:11PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Thread was started 20 March, nothing really has changed

SF is no closer to getting into government. Which in my opinion is a pity as I would prefer to see them in now than listening to 5 years of "change" etc.

Some people seem to thin SF will resolve all the issues, so they will all have less tax to pay and somehow everyone else will pay it, plus a new house or rent-free accommodation. That is never going to happen I hate to tell you.

I think, personal opinion, supporters of other parties seem a little more realistic in what a government can actually achieve.

Hence why I would like to see SF get in, I think people will quickly find Mary Lou and the rest quickly back tracking on the "manifesto" and blaming FF/FG or anyone as to why they can not deliver.

At this stage I expect 5 years of "Well SF would have done XYZ" but with zero back up from anyone if they could ever do it. By the looks of it will SF even in 5 years time be in a position to actually win more votes? if so then need to go on a serious hiring campaign for politicians. If the likes of Voilet etc continue as they have started they will still be seen as party not really capable of stepping up to run a country....

You already said that several times, and you will never say anything different that that about Sinn fein unless until there comes a time that your party might coalesce with them if the results panned out that way. You're an FG fanboy and you've been all over this thread from that perspective from the beginning.

If the numbers stacked up in a different way and FG were going into government with SF, there'd be a similar thread to this about FF and you'd be all over that one as well.

gormdubhgorm · 27-04-2020 03:15PM

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Today's theme: This thread is boring and offers no substance so let's fill pages with ridicule and guff.

Has anyone got an actual opinion on the article I posted?

It appears to be buried in a sea of crap.

Repost it and we can see it is above the crap.

TheCitizen · 27-04-2020 03:16PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

What are you even on about?

So once a person has beliefs they are OK to continue?

Racists have their beliefs. They can offend but once they apologise that's grand according to you.

Sure continue.

As you were.

Leo has beliefs, doesn't stop you ranting every day about him.

You are more confused than Scooby Doo.

What are you talking about racists for?

Shefwedfan · 27-04-2020 03:30PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

You already said that several times, and you will never say anything different that that about Sinn fein unless until there comes a time that your party might coalesce with them if the results panned out that way. You're an FG fanboy and you've been all over this thread from that perspective from the beginning.

If the numbers stacked up in a different way and FG were going into government with SF, there'd be a similar thread to this about FF and you'd be all over that one as well.

I am not a FG supporter

:p

I would indeed be on the FF thread take a guess why

James Brown · 27-04-2020 04:27PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I am not a FG supporter :p

But you play one on TV?

Mortelaro · 27-04-2020 05:55PM

Figures lowest for a long time today
Keep up the good work people
We will get through this

blanch152 · 27-04-2020 07:43PM

maccored wrote: »

you are one of the top posters surely. plus you cant blame people replying when you read some of the anti SF bull****.

Not in the top 5

smurgen · 27-04-2020 08:13PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Figures lowest for a long time today
Keep up the good work people
We will get through this

Please God we see a drop in deaths.

Millionaire only not · 27-04-2020 08:18PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Figures lowest for a long time today
Keep up the good work people
We will get through this

Thanks to Sinn Fein

all about the mane · 27-04-2020 08:33PM

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Thanks to Sinn Fein

:D:D

McMurphy · 27-04-2020 08:44PM

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

SF online supporters group urges members not to share news articles to prevent media from making money from clicks. Instead they should copy content from the articles and distribute for free.

A nasty way for SF supporters to give the big bad media a kicking when they are already on the floor.

Interesting that SF claimed it had nothing to do with the online group yet the group immediately changed one of it's rules when told to do so by SF HQ.

https://www.businesspost.ie/sinn-fein-disavows-advice-on-media-from-supporters-group-21a007e2

What or who is this online supporter's group Colonel? I mean, even a cursory glance on Facebook gives numerous Sinn Fein referenced groups, seen one earlier called " Friends of Sinn Fein - Canada"

Besides, "the big bad media" was certainly no shrinking violet regarding the shinners in the run up to the election, I don't think they owe them too many favours.

What was this rule though?

Lots of groups (from all sides of the political spectrum) on the net are full of dicks, doxing goes on and what not, I'm interested in hearing more about the nature of this rule change, and why you think the group adhering to the shinners request is conspiracy theory territory, some things are just common sense. The don't be a dick rule on boards for example.

I've been adhering to the social distancing measures and the non essential travel advice Leo and Simon dished out, am I now a FG member?

Twilight zone music.

tipptom · 27-04-2020 10:02PM

all about the mane wrote: »

:D:D

Those stupid fuc*n emojis again,but then again its a change from your incessant abuse of women in your posts.

all about the mane · 27-04-2020 10:33PM

tipptom wrote: »

Those stupid fuc*n emojis again,but then again its a change from your incessant abuse of women in your posts.

Millionaire made a joke. Lighten up a bit tom. Stop taking it so seriously.

Shefwedfan · 27-04-2020 10:53PM

tipptom wrote: »

Those stupid fuc*n emojis again,but then again its a change from your incessant abuse of women in your posts.

Chill man chill

Mortelaro · 27-04-2020 11:18PM

McMurphy wrote: »

What or who is this online supporter's group Colonel? I mean, even a cursory glance on Facebook gives numerous Sinn Fein referenced groups, seen one earlier called " Friends of Sinn Fein - Canada"

Besides, "the big bad media" was certainly no shrinking violet regarding the shinners in the run up to the election, I don't think they owe them too many favours.

What was this rule though?

Lots of groups (from all sides of the political spectrum) on the net are full of dicks, doxing goes on and what not, I'm interested in hearing more about the nature of this rule change, and why you think the group adhering to the shinners request is conspiracy theory territory, some things are just common sense. The don't be a dick rule on boards for example.

I've been adhering to the social distancing measures and the non essential travel advice Leo and Simon dished out, am I now a FG member?

Twilight zone music.

I must admit,that's an amusing post
Its telling me you're a bit of craic even if I couldn't agree less with a lot of what you usually say
The SBP article linked refers to it being a private page that issued the instructions
To be fair,if Sinn Féin supporters here start posting mostly twitter links... rather than newspaper links,we(as in the royal we if that phrase isnt offensive to shinnerists:D ) might be excused for pointing to the SBP article

Jamie2k9 · 28-04-2020 12:49AM

Besides, "the big bad media" was certainly no shrinking violet regarding the shinners in the run up to the election, I don't think they owe them too many favours.

I think SF got a very favourable election from the media compared to past elections. Policies were not particularly well scrutinised (all parties) and FG got a hammering and some of that was self inflicted.

The media attention after the election was a big own goal, up the ra and SF running there Clare candidate didn't help...

How nobody has called out the crap from Mary Loo, all in SF think buzz works like families and workers but most of there policies don't support average families or workers at all.

McMurphy · 28-04-2020 07:01AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

I must admit,that's an amusing post
Its telling me you're a bit of craic even if I couldn't agree less with a lot of what you usually say
The SBP article linked refers to it being a private page that issued the instructions
To be fair,if Sinn Féin supporters here start posting mostly twitter links... rather than newspaper links,we(as in the royal we if that phrase isnt offensive to shinnerists:D ) might be excused for pointing to the SBP article

You didn't read what colonel claptrap actually posted did you?

The insinuation is quite clearly that the shinners are somehow directing the private page, while simultaneously disassociating themselves from it. Or, that Sinn Fein issued the instructions to the Facebook group, it's literally in the post I quoted.

Colonel Claptrap wrote:

SF claimed it had nothing to do with the online group yet the group immediately changed one of it's rules when told to do so by SF HQ.

So Sinn Fein with close to 250k subscribers/fans/likes or whatever you would like to call them are now also discreetly directing another smaller unofficial Sinn Fein group with 16k subscribers/fans/likes???

Fair enough I haven't read the article as it's behind a paywall, but as previously discussed, does anyone know what this specific rule was?

We can tell from the linked to article just before the paywall preventing non subscribers reading any further says the following.

Rule number four, if you see something in the mainstream media.......

Have they removed this, and that's the link that undoubtedly points to the Shinners apparently covertly operating a private Facebook group alongside the much more popular mainstream one?

Did Sinn Fein publicly suggest they stop acting the dick and drop the media linking, and the group did so, is this the piece of the puzzle we're missing?

What a cunning plan.

Can I have some of the pot you lot are presumably toking on?

We are now in the twilight zone.

Mortelaro · 28-04-2020 07:33AM

McMurphy wrote: »

You didn't read what colonel claptrap actually posted did you?

huh

What a cunning plan.

We are now in the twilight zone.

I'm afraid you're not
The article is very clear,16000 shinners must not link to mainstream media for fear of funding mainstream media

If you think most people outside that bubble would believe the mother ship has no influence on a group like that,you're deluded

McMurphy · 28-04-2020 07:52AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

huh

I'm afraid you're not

Well firstly, I like how you very selectively quoted me, as already explained what you thought Colonel Claptrap was posting didnt match up with your own posting, one implied the unofficial fb group changed a rule afterr SF told them to do it, and that somehow obviously means that despite them claiming they have nothing to do with the group obviously can't be true.

You said.

The SBP article linked refers to it being a private page that issued the instructions

which has nothing to do with claptraps suggestion that they only did so when told to do it by SF HQ meaning proof they are one in the same, is that it?

Colonel Claptrap wrote:

SF claimed it had nothing to do with the online group yet the group immediately changed one of it's rules when told to do so by SF HQ.

Which version is it?

The article is very clear,16000 shinners must not link to mainstream media for fear of funding mainstream media

Well for those of us who don't subscribe, it's not clear at all, I said in my post (which you selectively quoted) that it specifically mentions rule no 4, but looking at the Facebook page in question, rule no 4 is about using profanities, nothing at all about linking to mainstream media.

Did SF ask them to remove this rule and they did so, replacing it with the bad language one?

If you think most people outside that bubble would believe the mother ship has no influence on a group like that,you're deluded

Do I think the SF party may be influential to an unofficial SF supporters group on Facebook? Is this a serious question?

Influential isn't proof that the shinners are covertly operating the unofficial SF group as per the original insinuation.

Who was making strawman allegations earlier in the thread?

Shefwedfan · 28-04-2020 09:17AM

Check over boards/facebook/twitter etc and it is clear SF and supporters have a clear agenda. Its the same waffle that is spouted out here. FF release a video and all the comments underneath are from SF supporters. All the same "topics" as discussed on here.

Normally we have the Apple money fired in at least once, I did respond once and more or less similar to here, once the person knew they hadn't a clue in was name-calling.

Trying to say that threads like this, facebook, twitter all have the exact same topics, all the exact same limited knowledge on the facts, all use the same derogatory names from other politicians is just pure chance is bulls**t.

It's clearly a campaign by SF, its fairly easy to see why, just look at Cambridge Analytica and the success they had, of course the one they will never admit to is Brexit when it was clearly hired to help with the campaign. The thing people forget is Cambridge was shut down and thought it was the end of it but in reality loads of companies still doing the exact same, one of the biggest whistleblower who was ex Cambridge had his own company up and running so he just killed the competition.

You can say it "tinfoil hat" blah blah blah. But the chances of the likes of all these people having the same view point exactly to the same details are .......well lets just say very very very slim

Mortelaro · 28-04-2020 09:43AM

McMurphy wrote: »

Well firstly, I like how you very selectively quoted me, as already explained what you thought Colonel Claptrap was posting didnt match up with your own posting, one implied the unofficial fb group changed a rule afterr SF told them to do it, and that somehow obviously means that despite them claiming they have nothing to do with the group obviously can't be true.

You said. which has nothing to do with claptraps suggestion that they only did so when told to do it by SF HQ meaning proof they are one in the same, is that it?

Which version is it?

Well for those of us who don't subscribe, it's not clear at all, I said in my post (which you selectively quoted) that it specifically mentions rule no 4, but looking at the Facebook page in question, rule no 4 is about using profanities, nothing at all about linking to mainstream media.

Did SF ask them to remove this rule and they did so, replacing it with the bad language one?

Do I think the SF party may be influential to an unofficial SF supporters group on Facebook? Is this a serious question?

Influential isn't proof that the shinners are covertly operating the FG group as per the original insinuation.

Who was making strawman allegations earlier in the thread?

Well it is a private page that issued the instructions
Secondly I didn't say Sf ,that was the colonel
Thirdly above you suggest you are a member of the face book group in question because you are able to clarify their 'rule 4' (which you break a lot it seems to me)
Fourthly in your previous post,you said you couldn't find this online Facebook group,yet now you are able to clarify its ''rule 4''
Are you a member, always a member or couldn't find it,which is it ?

Nothing strawman about my posts,all I did was parse the SBP article
As I said I'm not the Colonel, I'm allowed parse,comment and discuss on a discussion forum
It's also a perfectly reasonable point to expect that the mother ship has the ultimate influence on the group whether arms length or not

McMurphy · 28-04-2020 09:47AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Well it is a private page that issued the instructions
Secondly I didn't say Sf ,that was the colonel
Thirdly above you suggest you are a member of the face book group in question because you are able to clarify their 'rule 4' (which you break a lot it seems to me)
Fourthly in your previous post,you said you couldn't find this online Facebook group,yet now you are able to clarify its ''rule 4''
Are you a member, always a member or couldn't find it,which is it ?

Nothing strawman about my posts,all I did was parse the SBP article
As I said I'm not the Colonel, I'm allowed parse,comment and discuss on a discussion forum
It's also a perfectly reasonable point to expect that the mother ship has the ultimate influence on the group whether arms length or not

I did?

Anyone with a Facebook account, or access to the internet can view "the rules" :pac:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/497532963671113/?ref=share

And no, I'm not a member/fan/subscriber to it. I'm just able to work the internet.

Political groups on Facebook are little more than an echo chamber, full of idiots, be they FG,SF or anyone else.

The only reason I use Facebook at all is to keep in contact with e friends and ex colleagues from Australia and Saudi, and telegram and WhatsApp are slowly making even that redundant.

Fighting too many little fires at once Morty.

Mortelaro · 28-04-2020 10:14AM

McMurphy wrote: »

I did?

Anyone with a Facebook account, or access to the internet can view "the rules" :pac:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/497532963671113/?ref=share

And no, I'm not a member/fan/subscriber to it.

That's interesting, So the SBP is wrong it's not private? Or is that the main SF facebook page you're showing us?

The SBP is referring to a private Facebook page's instructions and rules not the 'official' page
So are you showing us the page referred to by the SBP or not
Please clarify, I won't be clicking it

McMurphy · 28-04-2020 10:19AM

Mortelaro wrote: »

That's interesting, So the SBP is wrong it's not private? Or is that the main SF facebook page you're showing us?

The SBP is referring to a private Facebook page's instructions and rules not the 'official' page
So are you showing us the page referred to by the SBP or not
Please clarify, I won't be clicking it

It's right there in the screenshot, it's a private page anyone can find - the privacy aspect (I assume) refers to the ability to either post to, or read the contents within.

The rules are clearly laid out for people to read and promise to abide to before asking to join, again an assumption as I'm not exactly au fait with private FB groups for the aforementioned reasons.

Suggesting the shinners are covertly operating it however actually is tinfoil hat stuff.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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