The UK response to Covid-19 [MOD WARNING 1ST POST]

theological wrote: »

If it is a takeaway, why not?

Operating as normal was the question. It is definitely not correct that the business should be open and not putting any social distancing in place

Uk gov thinks that anyone furloughed should take jobs picking fruit or picking veg.

They are obviously vying with Trump to come out with the stupidest comments.

Fruit picking is a skill, you don't learn in a day and despite the whiners saying it's poorly paid, a good picker will earn €700 a week.

dfx- wrote: »

They're going to release it gradually so they might've been able to do that in reverse.

Pubs/bars first, major sports events, then universities, schools, building sites and large workplaces. It would've needed buy in and enforcement...

For some reason in my head it was a phased approach with different measures being brought in at different times but I think my mind is playing tricks on me due to a combination of "lockdown brain" where a day can feel like a week and the governments hotchpotch approach.

dfx- wrote: »

Everything was open the week of the 16th but recommending people not to go to pubs but I was still in work on the 19th. It was the following weekend with pictures of everyone outside that he had the public address with everything closing sharply on the 23rd.

Yeah, for some reason I'm thinking there was a longer gap between the 16th and the 23rd. My social distancing measures are also messing with my mind as well. I stopped going to the office on the 3rd and haven't been to a pub or restaurant since the last day of February. That's 8 weeks now, don't think I could do another 8 weeks of similar constraints.

dfx- wrote: »

Should've been a softer lockdown earlier. What they did was panic when they changed their minds and implemented an immediate full on lockdown. Now it's week five of that in good weather.

But the likes of sunbathing in parks when there's no one around you is where they're losing it and seeing most of the pushback especially as they refuse to indicate how they're getting out of it.

The good weather has been particularly cruel. We had months of grey and rain, and then as soon as the weather starts to pick up and get nice, we have to stay inside for weeks on end...particularly tough for people with no outside space.

This virus was known about widely in January and had taken hold in Europe by early February. Imagine if they'd implemented a lockdown in early to mid February instead of waiting a month. It would have been so much easier for people to comply when the weather was crap, there would be far, far fewer cases, and we could now be looking at returning to normal, with travel the only thing still massively affected.

The UK had the huge advantage of time. They had so much more time than many other countries to see what was going on, to prepare, and to put measures in place, and they just absolutely squandered it, IMO.

theological wrote: »

There's only so long lockdown measures can be maintained for. There's going to be a lot of pressure building up to May 7th for the government to provide some form of clarity as to where this is going.



It can only continue for so long. People have mostly been pretty patient with this, but that will run out and is running out. The government need to be prepared with other measures to ease the lockdown. Note I'm not saying everything will be back to normal, but people do need to see a phased journey out of this.

This virus is going to be around for a long time. We need to be equipped to live with the virus sustainably. A lockdown of this nature isn't sustainable long term.

In theory, the virus should mostly burn itself out during a lockdown period and then pockets of infections can be traced and dealt with quickly, as in South Korea. This would mean a return to largely normal life, with the exception of no travel outside the country without a lengthy quarantine period to get back in. My friends over there are largely living a normal life now. They're still worried about the virus, but they can go out to restaurants, bars, see friends, work. It's a minor inconvenience rather than their entire lives turned upside down and the economy wrecked.

Somehow I don't think they are competent enough to implement that here and it'll probably be months more of of misery instead.

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

The good weather has been particularly cruel. We had months of grey and rain, and then as soon as the weather starts to pick up and get nice, we have to stay inside for weeks on end...particularly tough for people with no outside space.

Did you not do your leaving cert?
We're all conditioned to that horror of weather not playing ball.

This virus was known about widely in January and had taken hold in Europe by early February. Imagine if they'd implemented a lockdown in early to mid February instead of waiting a month. It would have been so much easier for people to comply when the weather was crap, there would be far, far fewer cases, and we could now be looking at returning to normal, with travel the only thing still massively affected.

The UK had the huge advantage of time. They had so much more time than many other countries to see what was going on, to prepare, and to put measures in place, and they just absolutely squandered it, IMO.



In theory, the virus should mostly burn itself out during a lockdown period and then pockets of infections can be traced and dealt with quickly, as in South Korea. This would mean a return to largely normal life, with the exception of no travel outside the country without a lengthy quarantine period to get back in. My friends over there are largely living a normal life now. They're still worried about the virus, but they can go out to restaurants, bars, see friends, work. It's a minor inconvenience rather than their entire lives turned upside down and the economy wrecked.

Somehow I don't think they are competent enough to implement that here and it'll probably be months more of of misery instead.

Reading that it isn't clear where "here" and "there" are.

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

True, but it has been absolutely lovely for weeks on end here, which I don't ever remember being the case in Ireland, not when I was at school anyway!



'Here' is the UK, where I am (thread makes that obvious). 'There' is South Korea, as mentioned in the previous line.

Most contributors to this thread are in Ireland. No need to get shirty, it just meant the interpretation of your post wasn't clear and could be construed oddly.

Thanks for clarification of my assumption.

"Apparent" success. Such fetching humility.

Wonder will hancock do a houdini act until all the missed testing target brouhaha blows over? Probably get some big manufactured row this week as a good old fashioned deflection, a dom special being conjured out of the ether right this minute.

Italians are going to start allowing visiting of relatives within the same region as long as masks are been worn as on of their first steps. I wonder how long it'll be before similar is allowed here in the UK. It's probably the move I would appreciate the most.