Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Lemonzero wrote: »

Agsin.does anyone have the % of the cases that are community based (ie not nursing home)

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-community-spread-mostly-under-control-but-evidence-of-people-moving-about-1.4236429

Modelling data published by the Department of Health suggests that at the moment, the spread of the virus in the community is substantially under control.

Tony EH wrote: »

Varadkar might be a lot of things, but I'm not sure he's a Satanist.

Strumms wrote: »

This country is such a fûcking out and out joke of a shîthole.

Strumms wrote: »

This country is such a fûcking out and out joke of a shîthole.

owlbethere wrote: »

701 new cases - that's some jump and it's very disappointing.

What is the details over these new cases? How many are community transmissions?

Is the large jump due to people getting relaxed with the restrictions?

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Surely the people to be angry at are the people from NI who take advantage of a legal loophole rather than using common sense in a pandemic.

s1ippy wrote: »

I'm saying it is very dangerous to blindly trust any authority without asking what their agenda is and measuring their actions based on the evidence available.

Although we must wait for complete data, modelling by country’s authorities suggests that the infection rate in Stockholm peaked on 8 April. If so, we need to consider the implication, namely that, once basic hygiene and distancing measures are in place, tightening the screw further perhaps makes little difference. Which would be good news for the rest of us. Adopting Sweden’s more laissez-faire response might not restore our economies to full health, but it would at least allow us to bring them out of their induced comas.

Sweden is, broadly speaking, sticking to the approach that Britain followed in the week before the lockdown – the approach, indeed, that our strategists had wargamed in cooler-headed times. On 23 March, in an abrupt shift, Britain’s shops were closed and its people told to stay at home.

What had changed? Was it the hysterical media demand for a Continental-style crackdown? Or the furious reaction to people visiting beauty spots on Mothering Sunday? Or was it the Imperial College model, published a few days earlier, which warned of hundreds of thousands of deaths unless there was a mass quarantine? Whatever the explanation, the lockdown soon took on a momentum of its own, with every new death turned into an argument for tighter restrictions.

It is important to stress that Sweden is not being insouciant. Its people have been told to work from home if they can and to avoid unnecessary contact. Sports fixtures and meetings of more than 50 people are banned. Cafés can serve customers at tables, but not at the bar. Many Swedes, especially the elderly, are isolating themselves by choice. Personal spending, measured by bank card transactions, is down 30 per cent – though, by comparison, the fall in Norway is 66 per cent and in Finland 70 per cent.

The Guardian now purses its lips when it mentions its erstwhile pin-up. Its recent headlines have included “Critics question Swedish approach as coronavirus death toll reaches 1,000,” and “Anger in Sweden as elderly pay price for coronavirus strategy”.

True, Sweden has had more deaths, proportionately, than its Nordic neighbours (though fewer than Spain, France or Britain. This is partly because the virus tragically found its way into care homes. But it is worth bearing in mind that the Swedish strategy always allowed for the possibility of a higher initial death rate.

Britain, remember, closed its economy in order to “squash the sombrero” – that is, to spread out the number of infections and, avoid crippling the NHS. The policy seems to have succeeded: there are more spare critical care beds available than before the pandemic started. The Swedish authorities calculated that their hospitals did not need a delay, and believe they have been vindicated. Sweden’s public health agency says that a third of Stockholm residents will have been infected by May 1. If having had the disease leaves a measure of immunity, Sweden will emerge from the crisis much earlier than the countries that are dragging things out.

Danzy wrote: »

Diddiums need a hug?

walshb wrote: »

Steady on...we’re not that bad..