Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Benimar · 24-04-2020 06:01PM

polesheep wrote: »

That's not how you get people on board, especially at this stage.

How would you suggest it’s done so? Genuine question, not having a go. If this relaxed attitude doesn’t stop lockdown could easily be extended.

martingriff · 24-04-2020 06:01PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

That's why I think we should be testing everyone, some could be out about infected with no symptoms

Oh to be in a perfect work and no we are not Iceland( a lot less people) or South Korea (they have a country just north of them that want to end them so can be complaint) Now we seem to be making some reagent we can ramp it up

polesheep · 24-04-2020 06:02PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Only way is hit them in the pocket

No, it's not. For example, most people have no idea just how many products they have bought in their lifetime on the basis of an advertisement they saw, read or heard. There are better ways to influence people and bring them on board than threatening them.

polesheep · 24-04-2020 06:04PM

Benimar wrote: »

How would you suggest it’s done so? Genuine question, not having a go. If this relaxed attitude doesn’t stop lockdown could easily be extended.

I've yet to see some decent PR being used to advantage by the government. People are swayed every day by advertising, marketing and PR, mostly without ever even being aware of it.

pjohnson · 24-04-2020 06:05PM

polesheep wrote: »

I don't believe that will work tbh. It would add fuel to the fire. It would be far better at this stage to indicate a plan and bring people on board with that plan, which, of course, would include staying the distance with the restrictions. They have to give people something concrete to aim for.

Jesus how many times. Any plan relies on the public following instructions.

Large parts of the public dont seem capable of this.

It was planned that restrictions would change May 5th. That was with the assumption that people would cooperate. They are the ones jepordising the plan that was in place for May 5th.

helpful · 24-04-2020 06:06PM

polesheep wrote: »

That's not how you get people on board, especially at this stage.

I think it might be a bit strong but these people need to be hit in the pocket. We don’t have time to implement tricks to get them on board.

Jim_Hodge · 24-04-2020 06:06PM

37 year old identical twins working as nurses in Southampton died from C19 this week.

An ordinary flu, overhyped, only affects the elderly, lockdown needs to be ended,....people need to catch themselves on realise that, if anything, this virus is worse than first feared.

polesheep · 24-04-2020 06:06PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Jesus how many times. Any plan relies on the public following instructions.

Large parts of the public dont seem capable of this.

It was planned that restrictions would change May 5th. That was with the assumption that people would cooperate. They are the ones jepordising the plan that was in place for May 5th.

That wasn't a plan.

political analyst · 24-04-2020 06:07PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Jesus how many times. Any plan relies on the public following instructions.

Large parts of the public dont seem capable of this.

It was planned that restrictions would change May 5th. That was with the assumption that people would cooperate. They are the ones jepordising the plan that was in place for May 5th.

...only if they had the virus when they disregarded the rules.

fritzelly · 24-04-2020 06:07PM

Watching the news and jaysus the amount of cars and people out and about is unreal
Fine the f*ck outta them

frillyleaf · 24-04-2020 06:08PM

Benimar wrote: »

How would you suggest it’s done so? Genuine question, not having a go. If this relaxed attitude doesn’t stop lockdown could easily be extended.

Two weeks ago it was Garda everywhere now it’s just normal traffic! I don’t consider this a lock down anymore. I’ll stick to guidelines but to call this a lockdown is laughable compared to what other countries have done. Mixed messages coming from government probably isn’t helping

John.Icy · 24-04-2020 06:09PM

Hmm that was an interesting stat just there....500 community cases a day on average at the moment and 100 a day from nursing....would have thought it would be the other way around if community transfer is zero and most cases are coming from care homes and healthcare staff?

EDIT: On news now for reference.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 24-04-2020 06:09PM

trapp wrote: »

We're not.

And never will be.

How can we be when so many will lose jobs and others won't.

The idea of being in it together is a joke.

We are. I had a restricted life before this and it was incredibly isolating because so few people had to live like that. And now everyone knows what it’s like.

spookwoman · 24-04-2020 06:09PM

polesheep wrote: »

No, it's not. For example, most people have no idea just how many products they have bought in their lifetime on the basis of an advertisement they saw, read or heard. There are better ways to influence people and bring them on board than threatening them.

Hit them in the pocket with fines no more 3 warnings bull

gmisk · 24-04-2020 06:09PM

I am not seeing drop off in gardai here...I have seen public order unit in park near me last two days as well as a checkpoint at the top of the road today in both directions for the first time

stephenjmcd · 24-04-2020 06:09PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Watching the news and jaysus the amount of cars and people out and about is unreal
Fine the f*ck outta them

You do realise the vast majority of that report was stock footage, pictures of tailbacks on the n11 etc. I've just come through there a half hour ago. No tailback but a big checkpoint.

Traffic still quite light driving in and out of dublin to bray

Beasty · 24-04-2020 06:10PM

political analyst wrote: »

...only if they had the virus when they disregarded the rules.

That's not the case at all. Anyone not having it risks catching it when disregarding restrictions. That could bring it into their household thereby spreading it further

political analyst · 24-04-2020 06:10PM

Why is it not enough to only have people whose lives would be endangered by the virus - the elderly, younger people with serious underlying health problems, pregnant women - isolate themselves while letting cafés, restaurants and other commercial premises re-open on condition of adherence to the two-metre rule? Herd immunity would eventually take hold and then it would be save for the vulnerable people to travel again.

pjohnson · 24-04-2020 06:10PM

polesheep wrote: »

That wasn't a plan.

What did you expect?

An itemised list with in depth day by day breakdown of the guaranteed cases yhat would have happened and the exact time each restriction would be lifted?

You are looking for a fortune teller not a government/doctor.

fritzelly · 24-04-2020 06:11PM

37 deaths RIP
577 new cases

JP Liz V1 · 24-04-2020 06:11PM

37 deaths RIP

political analyst · 24-04-2020 06:13PM

Beasty wrote: »

That's not the case at all. Anyone not having it risks catching it when disregarding restrictions. That could bring it into their household thereby spreading it further

What evidence is there that they've been violating the two-metre rule?

spookwoman · 24-04-2020 06:13PM

https://twitter.com/ShaneBeattyNews/status/1253733384427372551?s=20

frillyleaf · 24-04-2020 06:13PM

political analyst wrote: »

Why is it not enough to only have people whose lives would be endangered by the virus - the elderly, younger people with serious underlying health problems, pregnant women - isolate themselves while letting cafés, restaurants and other commercial premises re-open on condition of adherence to the two-metre rule? Herd immunity would eventually take hold and then it would be save for the vulnerable people to travel again.

Because our healthcare system can’t cope with that at the moment. People are forgetting that our healthcare has largely closed to deal with this and needs to get back up and running alongside dealing with Covid19. If healthcare becomes overrun the economy can’t function. Healthcare staff will be infected, it would have huge knock on affects in other parts of society. We can’t afford to be complacent

redarmy · 24-04-2020 06:14PM

BREAKING: Sadly, a further 37 people with #Covid19 are known to have died in the Republic. 185 “probable” deaths have occurred too. 577 new cases confirmed. It now brings the death toll to 1,014 & the number of confirmed cases stands at 18,184.

JP Liz V1 · 24-04-2020 06:16PM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ShaneBeattyNews/status/1253733384427372551?s=20

So now ROI has over 1000 deaths

rm212 · 24-04-2020 06:16PM

245 of 577 new cases in nursing homes

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 24-04-2020 06:17PM

ElTel wrote: »

Is that for the covid19 swab analysis or more to do with blood and antibodies? A "now your talking to a virology lab tech" thread would be great imo.

Hindsight of course, but we messed up testing too widely early.

Even now, with increased capacity I think we should still limit this test to continuous checking of health care staff and high risk groups and contact tracing of serious new cases. I hope the gardai are/get more involved in contact tracing. Some posts in this thread suggest that tracing has been poor.

We could do some random sampling of the full population instead and perhaps test people that have shown no symptoms.

I’ll be honest, I don’t know the details. She just told me that there was new training required for this virus. Actually, there’s probably specific training for testing of all kinds of viruses. They just all had to learn this one quick smart.

My friend would agree that some of the early criteria for testing were too broad and that wasted resources.

nacho libre · 24-04-2020 06:17PM

Good to hear the guards are out and about doing checkpoints. As i did wonder would people with second homes attempt to go to places like Wexford this weekend.

JP Liz V1 · 24-04-2020 06:18PM

142 currently in ICU

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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