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Garda Checks

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  • #1052
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Breezin wrote: »
    A more humane approach for the first offence would be to trigger auto-posts in all of the culprits' social media apps, confessing to having selfishly breached the 2km limit. Add to that a deepfake video of them apologising profusely, Japanese-style, before committing harakiri.
    Excellent.

    I'd assume most people would have realised by now that the 2km limit is only there to give the TV show production people time to upgrade the set. When you next go more than 2km, you may be surprised to see lush tropical jungle and herds of gazelles. The people of planet Boron IV are eager to see what happens in the next installment when the residents of Mullingar discover they now live alongside a pack of lions.


  • #1053
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Discodog wrote: »
    Neither the Gardai nor the wage bill will allow 12 hour shifts to continue.

    Why do you think this? Do you think the wage bill is higher at the moment?


  • #1054
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Seems the regulations are getting widely flouted at this stage. Im seeing groups of cyclists in my area, the Tour de France type who are definitely a lot further than 2km from their home. You dont be dripping with sweat after a 2km cycle.

    Have checkpoints reduced dramatically since the Easter weekend? My neighbour said he went through 4 that weekend but hasnt come across one since then.


  • #1055
    BronsonTB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭BronsonTB


    Discodog wrote: »
    I haven't seen the official figures. Can you give a link to them? I have seen a very small number of headline offences.

    Neither the Gardai nor the wage bill will allow 12 hour shifts to continue just to tell, one in a hundred drivers, to turn around.

    They should be focusing on social distancing not people sitting safely in cars.

    My point is they are catching, no insurance, no tax, no licence, disqualified drivers, drunk drivers, drug driving, speeding driver, dangerous drivers...All when each one of them should not be safely in there cars in the first place!!
    Look at the official garda twitter account for exact real live examples that you wanted!

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057749778

    Sligo Metalhead



  • #1056
    Herb Powell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    c montgomery wrote: »
    Most people happily give facebook/Google etc that information every day without realizing, they use it for ads

    Why the outrage when the government want to use that information to curb a pandemic?

    Why do you assume I support that, lol?


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  • #1057
    Breezin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Breezin


    hmmm wrote: »
    Excellent.

    I'd assume most people would have realised by now that the 2km limit is only there to give the TV show production people time to upgrade the set. When you next go more than 2km, you may be surprised to see lush tropical jungle and herds of gazelles. The people of planet Boron IV are eager to see what happens in the next installment when the residents of Mullingar discover they now live alongside a pack of lions.


    I'd sack that TV director. Lions live in grasslands, not tropical jungle (unless they are supposed to be in lockdown too). We need to keep it real!


  • #1058
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,345 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Seems the regulations are getting widely flouted at this stage. Im seeing groups of cyclists in my area, the Tour de France type who are definitely a lot further than 2km from their home. You dont be dripping with sweat after a 2km cycle.

    You're not limited to a 2km cycle. I came home dripping with sweat from a 20km cycle within the 2km radius this morning. If I had more team, I could have done 40km or 60km with an extra lap or two.

    I'm not sure how you define Tour de France types? Is every speeding motorist (98% of motorists in urban areas in the recent RSA survey) now a Formula 1 type?

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1252905101091655681

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1252853412158271489

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/1252586797898575872


  • #1059
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As well as doing these checks, looks like AGS are going to have start doing house to house checks for people who have arrived in Ireland and might not be self isolating for 14 days. Presumably more than once in that period.

    That will presumably weaken further their ability to enforce the restrictions in place for everyone else


  • #1060
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    You're not limited to a 2km cycle. I came home dripping with sweat from a 20km cycle within the 2km radius this morning. If I had more team, I could have done 40km or 60km with an extra lap or two.

    I'm not sure how you define Tour de France types? Is every speeding motorist (98% of motorists in urban areas in the recent RSA survey) now a Formula 1 type?

    Lads who go on long spins and with the leg muscles and physiques of professional cyclists. I live in the mountains and Im seeing groups of them out hill climbing. They are not local and they are a lot further than 2km from their houses. Unless they are sheep farmers dressed as cyclists in lycra they have no business being on my road under the current restrictions.


  • #1061
    Breezin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Lads who go on long spins and with the leg muscles and physiques of professional cyclists. I live in the mountains and Im seeing groups of them out hill climbing. They are not local and they are a lot further than 2km from their houses. Unless they are sheep farmers dressed as cyclists in lycra they have no business being on my road under the current restrictions.


    What harm are they doing, apart from the usual assault on the senses?


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  • #1062
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Breezin wrote: »
    What harm are they doing, apart from the usual assault on the senses?

    They are not obeying the restrictions which are in force for public health grounds. There was a gang of them outside the local Supervalue drinking coffee so they are coming from well outside my area and then into contact with local shop workers who are at risk enough already without these muppets rolling into town.

    The more people break the restrictions the longer we will be on lockdown, Im not sure how people dont get that. This is all about preventing the spread of the virus but instead we have some people like these cyclists who are just plain selfish and only ever think of themselves.


  • #1063
    Breezin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    They are not obeying the restrictions which are in force for public health grounds. There was a gang of them outside the local Supervalue drinking coffee so they are coming from well outside my area and then into contact with local shop workers who are at risk enough already without these muppets rolling into town.

    The more people break the restrictions the longer we will be on lockdown, Im not sure how people dont get that. This is all about preventing the spread of the virus but instead we have some people like these cyclists who are just plain selfish and only ever think of themselves.


    Coffee-drinking hooligans. You didn't mention that breach earlier.


    But the actual cycling surely isn't an issue. Yes, I know it's a breach of the restrictions, and not in the spirit of things etc. But what actually is the risk if they cycle down your road?


  • #1064
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,031 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Why do you think this? Do you think the wage bill is higher at the moment?

    Well if you & your colleagues are happy with 12 hour shifts & all the additional Policing then why not continue it full time ?


  • #1065
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,031 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    BronsonTB wrote: »
    My point is they are catching, no insurance, no tax, no licence, disqualified drivers, drunk drivers, drug driving, speeding driver, dangerous drivers...All when each one of them should not be safely in there cars in the first place!!
    Look at the official garda twitter account for exact real live examples that you wanted!

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057749778

    They actually do that as part of their normal job. The numbers of additional crimes won't be very high & that's why you can't find a link showing a big increase. Some crime has dropped simply because there are more Gardai visible.


  • #1066
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Breezin wrote: »
    Coffee-drinking hooligans. You didn't mention that breach earlier.


    But the actual cycling surely isn't an issue. Yes, I know it's a breach of the restrictions, and not in the spirit of things etc. But what actually is the risk if they cycle down your road?

    You're not seeing the bigger picture, it is broken window theory in action. One group breaks the rules, other people see them get away with it and then they break the rules andthe next thing you know everyone is at it. Its pretty obvious that this is what is happening right now, at least in my area which is popular with cyclists. There was none of them around the Easter bank holiday but last weekend there was a trickle of them and now its turning into a flood. These cyclists are just being selfish, the rules are there for the health of the entire nation but they seem to think they are more important that others who are obeying them.


  • #1067
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Discodog wrote: »
    Well if you & your colleagues are happy with 12 hour shifts & all the additional Policing then why not continue it full time ?

    Well, I think it could be on the table.
    Most seem happy with 12 hour shifts


  • #1068
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,345 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    You're not seeing the bigger picture, it is broken window theory in action. One group breaks the rules, other people see them get away with it and then they break the rules andthe next thing you know everyone is at it. Its pretty obvious that this is what is happening right now, at least in my area which is popular with cyclists. There was none of them around the Easter bank holiday but last weekend there was a trickle of them and now its turning into a flood. These cyclists are just being selfish, the rules are there for the health of the entire nation but they seem to think they are more important that others who are obeying them.

    It's hard to take the 'broken window' theory seriously in Ireland, when the RSA Speed Survey shows 98% of motorists breaking urban speed limits. Maybe that would be a better starting point for any clamp down?
    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Lads who go on long spins and with the leg muscles and physiques of professional cyclists. I live in the mountains and Im seeing groups of them out hill climbing. They are not local and they are a lot further than 2km from their houses. Unless they are sheep farmers dressed as cyclists in lycra they have no business being on my road under the current restrictions.

    Fair play with spotting their physique and leg muscles. Lots of drivers barely notice the actual presence of cyclists at all unfortunately.

    It's a mad idea, but maybe some sheep farmers are also 'Tour de France lads'?

    Any chance you might catch some photos of these groups of cyclists on your road or at SuperValu?


  • #1069
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,093 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I’m calling upon the gardai to really go hell for leather over the wkend and come down like a ton of bricks on anyone flouting the restrictions.

    We need to see judges throwing the book at ppl acting the bollix and traveling without good reason.

    Few months in the joy will send a message to the populace.

    Zero tolerance now for the next 2 weeks to really kill off this curse of a virus.


  • #1070
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    It's hard to take the 'broken window' theory seriously in Ireland, when the RSA Speed Survey shows 98% of motorists breaking urban speed limits. Maybe that would be a better starting point for any clamp down?

    Or how about instead of engaging in whataboutery the Gardai clamp down on anyone breaking the restrictions.
    It's a mad idea, but maybe some sheep farmers are also 'Tour de France lads'?

    Thats not a mad idea, its an absolutely stupid one because I know the local sheep farmers to see and I know when groups of cyclists are coming from far outside my area to go hill climbing on mountains. They're never here in winter, they werent here at Easter but they're coming back in numbers now this last week. Its purely selfish behaviour what they're up to and its only going to lead to the lockdown lasting longer for all of us. Maybe you dont get that?


  • #1071
    Breezin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    You're not seeing the bigger picture, it is broken window theory in action. One group breaks the rules, other people see them get away with it and then they break the rules andthe next thing you know everyone is at it. Its pretty obvious that this is what is happening right now, at least in my area which is popular with cyclists. There was none of them around the Easter bank holiday but last weekend there was a trickle of them and now its turning into a flood. These cyclists are just being selfish, the rules are there for the health of the entire nation but they seem to think they are more important that others who are obeying them.

    Lots of groups break lots of laws lots of the time. It doesn't mean everything needs to collapse.

    Should the shop stop serving them? I'd happily bring a flask and sambo to avoid contact with the locals if it meant restoring freedom of movement.


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  • #1072
    Better Than Christ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Better Than Christ


    Some guards seem to really get off on having that extra bit of power. I was stopped at a mini-checkpoint earlier after doing a bit of shopping and the guard asked where I was coming from/going to. I told him where I lived and that I was coming back from Tesco (around 2km from home). He then asked why I didn't go to SuperValu (around 1km from home) instead. I explained that Tesco is bigger, the queue is usually shorter and they're more likely to have everything I want. I thought he'd be fine with that, but nope, he told me I should've gone to SuperValu instead. I wasn't interested in arguing, so I told him I'd bear that in mind in future.

    Seemed a bit over the top, to put it mildly.


  • #1073
    celticWario
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭celticWario


    Massive street party around the corner, again. If I call the Gardai there'll probably be a riot, dunno if it's worth it, especially if they peg me as the ones who called


  • #1074
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭pablo128


    Breezin wrote: »
    Lots of groups break lots of laws lots of the time. It doesn't mean everything needs to collapse.

    Should the shop stop serving them? I'd happily bring a flask and sambo to avoid contact with the locals if it meant restoring freedom of movement.

    If you can have freedom of movement, well what's to stop the rest of the country having freedom of movement, once they bring tea and sambos with them?

    Or do you think you're more important than everyone else because you travel by bicycle?


  • #1075
    Breezin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Breezin


    pablo128 wrote: »
    If you can have freedom of movement, well what's to stop the rest of the country having freedom of movement, once they bring tea and sambos with them?

    Or do you think you're more important than everyone else because you travel by bicycle?

    Nothing stopping them, if we agree that, of itself, it's no harm.

    Why do you assume I travel by bicycle? It's not a personal issue.


  • #1076
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,589 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Breezin wrote: »
    Nothing stopping them, if we agree that, of itself, it's no harm.

    Why do you assume I travel by bicycle? It's not a personal issue.

    It's never of itself - every time you leave the house it comes with attendant risks of interactions, encounters, accidents, exposure to the virus.

    The further and longer you travel the more those risks are multiplied whether it's by car or bicycle.

    That's why the risks should only be borne when essential and for the shortest practical distances.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #1077
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,443 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    They are not obeying the restrictions which are in force for public health grounds. There was a gang of them outside the local Supervalue drinking coffee so they are coming from well outside my area and then into contact with local shop workers who are at risk enough already without these muppets rolling into town. .

    OMG, I can't believe your little slice of paradise is being blown apart by svelte men in skintight lycra and roaring into town on their 6kg carbon bicycles! I mean the noise alone is enough to cause those innocent birds in the trees to look around!! :eek: Cruelty to animals by those cyclists!

    I mean, won't somebody think of the children!?

    First they start off by sipping Tanzanian Peaberry Coffee, but you know if you don't protest at your local shop then guess what? Next thing they have moved on to mild altering Ethiopian Yirgacheffe Coffee! Then watch the neighbourhood fall apart when a cafe opens selling Deconstructed fruit scones!

    The horror!


  • #1078
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,328 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    I’m calling upon the gardai to really go hell for leather over the wkend and come down like a ton of bricks on anyone flouting the restrictions.

    We need to see judges throwing the book at ppl acting the bollix and traveling without good reason.

    Few months in the joy will send a message to the populace.

    Zero tolerance now for the next 2 weeks to really kill off this curse of a virus.

    Ridiculous and hysterical reaction. Also, this lockdown was not intended to, and will not, kill off the virus.

    People are getting fed up because they have realised that the last few weeks hae achieved what they set out to do - allow the health service time to ramp up and be able to manage the cases. Plus the transmission rate has steadily dropped in that time.

    It's now time to move into the next phase. Restarting the economy and employment, and addressing the very real mental health pressures this has caused for people - especially older people who have been even more isolated than many of them already were.

    The only ones who need a message sent to them are those who are unable to accept the reality that we need to now move into living alongside this thing (sensibly) until a vaccine/cure is developed, and that the vast majority of people can do this safely while still protecting those who actually ARE at greater risk.


  • #1079
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,345 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Or how about instead of engaging in whataboutery the Gardai clamp down on anyone breaking the restrictions.



    Thats not a mad idea, its an absolutely stupid one because I know the local sheep farmers to see and I know when groups of cyclists are coming from far outside my area to go hill climbing on mountains. They're never here in winter, they werent here at Easter but they're coming back in numbers now this last week. Its purely selfish behaviour what they're up to and its only going to lead to the lockdown lasting longer for all of us. Maybe you dont get that?

    comedy-Ya2o92Smq6Ila

    See if you can get a couple of photos of the lads with their muscly physique over the weekend.


  • #1080
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Better Than Christ wrote: »
    Some guards seem to really get off on having that extra bit of power. I was stopped at a mini-checkpoint earlier after doing a bit of shopping and the guard asked where I was coming from/going to. I told him where I lived and that I was coming back from Tesco (around 2km from home). He then asked why I didn't go to SuperValu (around 1km from home) instead. I explained that Tesco is bigger, the queue is usually shorter and they're more likely to have everything I want. I thought he'd be fine with that, but nope, he told me I should've gone to SuperValu instead. I wasn't interested in arguing, so I told him I'd bear that in mind in future.

    Seemed a bit over the top, to put it mildly.

    Crazy over the top.

    Was it really necessary to arrest you? Pull you from the car? Seize your goods? Demand your id?

    Oh, he didn't do any of those things? Just made a suggestion in a civil and polite manner? The absolute barbarian. They'll be raping and pillaging next!

    (On a serious note any chance of some consistently? This lad reckons a chat is excessive. Another poster wants Gardai to do hell for leather and steady everyone)


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  • #1081
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,328 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Niner leprauchan wrote: »
    Crazy over the top.

    Was it really necessary to arrest you? Pull you from the car? Seize your goods? Demand your id?

    Oh, he didn't do any of those things? Just made a suggestion in a civil and polite manner? The absolute barbarian. They'll be raping and pillaging next!

    (On a serious note any chance of some consistently? This lad reckons a chat is excessive. Another poster wants Gardai to do hell for leather and steady everyone)

    As described in the post you quoted, the poster was asked where he was coming/going, and gave a legitimate answer.

    That should have been enough to send him on his way without the Garda's opinions on what shop he should buy his goods in.

    I know you and several others here are Gardai yourselves but getting so defensive and dramatic whenever a negative experience is mentioned does neither you nor your colleagues any favours


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