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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Beasty · 2020-04-19 21:30:08

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#3152 23-04-2020 07:56PM

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So your not taking a complete approach and trying to get a picture of the full current situation based on all the available data? Please don’t tell me you are just looking at the latest set of numbers and are picking the one that most matches a completely negative outlook? Someone who did that would have been beating the deaths drum for the last few days while cases were stable and falling, but would have switched to the cases drum today when a huge drop in deaths occurred, while completely ignoring what is the most reliable figure, ICU admissions which have been slowly and steadily falling for about a week. Please don’t tell me that’s you?

What the hell are you talking about now?

I'm looking at the average daily death rate since this thing began... what is your problem with that?

It's a perfectly reasonable metric to observe. Very much a standard across the board in every area of society!?

You don't get to dictate which statistics or metrics people choose to analyse.

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#3153 23-04-2020 07:57PM

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Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Still pretty low deaths, considering the huge amount of cases they have...

They have more than 4.5 times Italy's number of confirmed cases, but less than double their deaths.

They're a huge country, that gets probably more movement and international travel over their borders than most nations. They seem to be doing reasonably okay right now, all things considered.

Oh now you care about movement and international travel but elsewhere are happy to compare Ireland to countries like New Zealand and Slovakia. :rolleyes: You are so transparent.

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#3154 23-04-2020 07:57PM

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babaracus wrote: »

By properly protecting those who were most likely to get it, like those in nursing homes and all over 70, while allowing the rest of us to face it, get it and get immunity then this could have been ended a lot quicker, and not at the cost of tens of billions of euros which we do not have. The economy is shagged and the serious health costs of that have yet to be quantified.

That is very brave of you !

The latest lunatic idea from the “Herd Immunity” proponents is to build population immunity by infecting younger people who seem to have mild cases of Covid-19. It has been mentioned more than once on this board.

A professor of epidemiology and biostatistics details 7 good reasons why this notion is a really really bad idea, in the New York Times.

Please, Don’t Intentionally Infect Yourself. Signed, an Epidemiologist.

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#3155 23-04-2020 07:58PM

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JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I think they should test everyone, symptoms or not

Right, and who are they going to get to carry out the 4 million + swabs and process them in a time themat they’re still relevant?

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#3156 23-04-2020 07:59PM

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tobefrank321 wrote: »

If hospitalisations are down hugely but new cases in the community are up hugely in coming weeks, its possible we are looking at a milder strain of this.

How do you know what's mild considering some patients feel fine with low oxygen levels... There's nothing mild about that.

I think we should have isolation centers, isolate and monitor everybody with symptoms.

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#3157 23-04-2020 07:59PM

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Away With The Fairies wrote: »

If your wife is positive, you have symptoms, you're probably also positive. I don't know why you need a test to be told you're positive.

For instance, some work places will need medical confirmation for sick leave purposes.

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#3158 23-04-2020 08:00PM

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Refractions wrote: »

Mass testing going on now folks. My wife has been redeployed to testing and the workload is going to be intense for the foreseeable. Be prepared to see crazy jumps in cases day to day.

Yeah, Nolan mentioned we can expect bigger numbers for a number of days. 7-10 days testing was what they said for nursing homes.

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#3159 23-04-2020 08:01PM

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tobefrank321 wrote: »

If hospitalisations are down hugely but new cases in the community are up hugely in coming weeks, its possible we are looking at a milder strain of this.

Are you suggesting that due to the lockdown the virus might evolve into a milder form in order to survive?

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#3160 23-04-2020 08:01PM

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Rob A. Bank wrote: »

That is very brave of you !

The latest lunatic idea from the “Herd Immunity” proponents is to build population immunity by infecting younger people who seem to have mild cases of Covid-19. It has been mentioned more than once on this board.

A professor of epidemiology and biostatistics details 7 good reasons why this notion is a really really bad idea, in the New York Times.

Please, Don’t Intentionally Infect Yourself. Signed, an Epidemiologist.

If there is ever a strategy that allows people with antibodies to go on with their lives (with some kind of permit or certificate) I guarantee that thousands of people will try to intentionally infect themselves

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#3161 23-04-2020 08:02PM

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Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

What the hell are you talking about now?

I'm looking at the average daily death rate since this thing began... what is your problem with that?

It's a perfectly reasonable metric to observe. Very much a standard across the board in every area of society!?

You don't get to dictate which statistics or metrics people choose to analyse.

Average daily death rate was always going to rise and is going to continue to rise for some time yet. It is a pandemic after all. And it’s an utter meaningless metric that I don’t see reported in any discussion anywhere on this.

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#3162 23-04-2020 08:02PM

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Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

What the hell are you talking about now?

I'm looking at the average daily death rate since this thing began... what is your problem with that?

It's a perfectly reasonable metric to observe. Very much a standard across the board in every area of society!?

You don't get to dictate which statistics or metrics people choose to analyse.

It's not the daily rate, it's the daily notified rate.

FYI on death notifications in Ireland.

Following a death, a registered medical practitioner who attended the deceased must complete and sign part 1 of the Death Notification Form (DNF), stating to the best of his or her knowledge or belief the cause of death.

The qualified informant must complete and sign part 2 of the DNF which contains the particulars of the deceased required to complete the registration.

Once completed, the DNF must be given to a registrar within 3 months of the death.

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/49c66f-registering-a-death-in-ireland/

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#3163 23-04-2020 08:03PM

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New Home wrote: »

For instance, some work places will need medical confirmation for sick leave purposes.

I understand. But it's almost guaranteed he has it. What difference does waiting for a result make? He has to isolate for two weeks regardless because his wife has it.

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#3164 23-04-2020 08:03PM

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[Deleted User] wrote: »

If there is ever a strategy that allows people with antibodies to go on with their lives (with some kind of permit or certificate) I guarantee that thousands of people will try to intentionally infect themselves

Well there is always an idiot problem. Cant do much for them but need to protect the majority.

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#3165 23-04-2020 08:03PM

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uncleoswald wrote: »

Oh now you care about movement and international travel but elsewhere are happy to compare Ireland to countries like New Zealand and Slovakia. :rolleyes: You are so transparent.

I never once compared Ireland to NZ or Slovakia - you're clearly thinking of someone else.

The US is actually somewhat unique to most other nations in the world IMHO... they're very different to Italy for example. Yet seem to be doing reasonably well considering. (I never said they were doing great btw - just a bit better than all the doom-mongers were predicting around here!)

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#3166 23-04-2020 08:04PM

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Yep as most have guessed already expect a big jump in numbers.

I've been testing all week and we're due to continue testing all nursing home and community hospitals and other various residential care settings.
Staff and residents including agency are being tested.

My own team has tested just over 250 this week and we're continuing right through the weekend.
Testing shifts being offered out on overtime too.

Have to say it's tough work as in physically you're going all day.

Great that we're actually doing it though.

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#3167 23-04-2020 08:05PM

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Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I understand. But it's almost guaranteed he has it. What difference does waiting for a result make? He has to isolate for two weeks regardless because his wife has it.

"Peace" of mind? Bad expression, in the circumstances. Should his symptoms worsen (and please God they won't!!!) at least he'd be taken more seriously if he were to need a doctor. That's one thing that springs to mind.

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#3168 23-04-2020 08:05PM

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fullstop wrote: »

Right, and who are they going to get to carry out the 4 million + swabs and process them in a time themat they’re still relevant?

One way would be to do selective testing in the community where know outbreaks were.
It would be a good way to get an average of spread.

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#3169 23-04-2020 08:06PM

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Away With The Fairies wrote: »

If your wife is positive, you have symptoms, you're probably also positive. I don't know why you need a test to be told you're positive.

To be honest, in the likelihood of having it, I took it to have it on record. If we go down the route of having had it, or having the antibody, to help release the restrictions, I'd like that on record.

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#3170 23-04-2020 08:07PM

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Average daily death rate was always going to rise and is going to continue to rise for some time yet. It is a pandemic after all. And it’s an utter meaningless metric that I don’t see reported in any discussion anywhere on this.

Everything gets labelled as "meaningless" to you guys, when it's a stat or metric you don't like! :rolleyes:

You guys are so predictable! lol

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#3171 23-04-2020 08:08PM

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Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 55 – Thursday 23/04/2020
All data is cumulative and based on the date of official reporting

Day
|
Date
|
Cases
|
New Cases
|
Total Cases
|
Case Increase
|
Reporting Increase
|
New Deaths
|
Total Deaths
|
Deaths daily increase
|
CFR
|
New Hosp
|
Total Hosp
|
Hosp %
|
Hosp daily increase
|
New ICU
|
Total ICU
|
ICU %
|
ICU daily increase
|
Recovered**
|
Recovery %
|
Population
| Active Cases***

1
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29/02/2020
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0
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1
|
1
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N/A
|
N/A
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0
|
0
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N/A
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N/A
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NR
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NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
0.000%
| 1

2
|
01/03/2020
|
1
|
0
|
1
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0%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
0.000%
| 1

3
|
02/03/2020
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1
|
0
|
1
|
0%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
0.000%
| 1

4
|
03/03/2020
|
1
|
1
|
2
|
100%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
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NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
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NR
|
NR
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NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
0.000%
| 2

5
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04/03/2020
|
2
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4
|
6
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200%
|
300%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
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NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
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NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
0.000%
| 6

6
|
05/03/2020
|
6
|
7
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13
|
117%
|
75%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
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NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
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N/A
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NR
|
NR
|
0.000%
| 13

7
|
06/03/2020
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13
|
5
|
18
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38%
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-29%
|
0
|
0
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N/A
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
|
NR
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0.000%
| 18

8
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07/03/2020
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18
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1
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19
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6%
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-80%
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0
|
0
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N/A
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
|
NR
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0.000%
| 19

9
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08/03/2020
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19
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2
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21
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11%
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100%
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0
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0
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N/A
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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0.000%
| 21

10
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09/03/2020
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21
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3
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24
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14%
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50%
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0
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0
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N/A
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
|
NR
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0.000%
| 24

11
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10/03/2020
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24
|
10
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34
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42%
|
233%
|
0
|
0
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N/A
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
|
0.001%
| 34

12
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11/03/2020
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34
|
9
|
43
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26%
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-10%
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1
|
1
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N/A
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2.3%
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
|
N/A
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NR
|
NR
|
0.001%
| 42

13
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12/03/2020
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43
|
27
|
70
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63%
|
200%
|
0
|
1
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0%
|
1.4%
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NR
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NR
|
NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
|
N/A
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NR
|
NR
|
0.001%
| 69

14
|
13/03/2020
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70
|
20
|
90
|
29%
|
-26%
|
0
|
1
|
0%
|
1.1%
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NR
|
NR
|
NR
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N/A
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NR
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NR
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NR
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N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
0.002%
| 89

15
|
14/03/2020
|
90
|
39
|
129
|
43%
|
95%
|
1
|
2
|
100%
|
1.6%
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
|
N/A
|
NR
|
NR
|
0.003%
| 127

16
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15/03/2020
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129
|
40
|
169
|
31%
|
3%
|
0
|
2
|
0%
|
1.2%
|
NR
|
NR
|
NR
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N/A
|
NR
|
NR
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NR
|
N/A
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NR
|
NR
|
0.003%
| 167

17
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16/03/2020
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169
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54
|
223
|
32%
|
35%
|
0
|
2
|
0%
|
0.9%
|
84
|
84
|
38%
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N/A
|
84
|
6
|
3%
|
N/A
|
5
|
2%
|
0.005%
| 216

18
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17/03/2020
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223
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69
|
292
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31%
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28%
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0
|
2
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0%
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0.7%
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24
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108
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37%
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29%
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1
|
7
|
2%
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17%
|
5
|
2%
|
0.006%
| 285

19
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18/03/2020
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292
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74
|
366
|
25%
|
7%
|
0
|
2
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0%
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0.5%
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32
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140
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38%
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30%
|
5
|
12
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3%
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71%
|
5
|
1%
|
0.007%
| 359

20
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19/03/2020
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366
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191
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557
|
52%
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158%
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1
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3
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50%
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0.5%
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33
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173
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31%
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24%
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1
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13
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2%
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8%
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5
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1%
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0.011%
| 549

21
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20/03/2020
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557
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126
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683
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23%
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-34%
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0
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3
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0%
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0.4%
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38
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211
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31%
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22%
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4
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17
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2%
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31%
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5
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1%
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0.014%
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22
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21/03/2020
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683
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102
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785
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15%
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-19%
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0
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3
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33%
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0.4%
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28
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239
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30%
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13%
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8
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25
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3%
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47%
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5
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1%
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0.016%
| 777

23
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22/03/2020
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785
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121
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906
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15%
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19%
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1
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4
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33%
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0.4%
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36
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5
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0.018%
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23/03/2020
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219
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1125
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24%
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81%
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6
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50%
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0.5%
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39
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8%
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5
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0.023%
| 1114

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204
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1329
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7
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0.5%
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5
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0.027%
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235
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1564
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0.6%
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0.049%
| 2374

30
|
29/03/2020
|
2415
|
200
|
2615
|
8%
|
-32%
|
10
|
46
|
28%
|
1.8%
|
58
|
703
|
27%
|
9%
|
29
|
113
|
4%
|
35%
|
5
|
0%
|
0.053%
| 2564

31
|
30/03/2020
|
2615
|
295
|
2910
|
11%
|
48%
|
8
|
54
|
17%
|
1.9%
|
131
|
834
|
29%
|
19%
|
13
|
126
|
4%
|
12%
|
5
|
0%
|
0.059%
| 2851

32
|
31/03/2020
|
2910
|
325
|
3235
|
11%
|
10%
|
17
|
71
|
31%
|
2.2%
|
98
|
932
|
29%
|
12%
|
8
|
134
|
4%
|
6%
|
25
|
1%
|
0.066%
| 3139

33
|
01/04/2020
|
3235
|
212
|
3447
|
7%
|
-35%
|
14
|
85
|
20%
|
2.5%
|
107
|
1039
|
30%
|
11%
|
14
|
148
|
4%
|
10%
|
25
|
1%
|
0.070%
| 3337

34
|
02/04/2020
|
3447
|
402
|
3849
|
12%
|
90%
|
13
|
98
|
15%
|
2.5%
|
79
|
1118
|
29%
|
8%
|
10
|
158
|
4%
|
7%
|
25
|
1%
|
0.078%
| 3726

35
|
03/04/2020
|
3849
|
424
|
4273
|
11%
|
5%
|
22
|
120
|
22%
|
2.8%
|
85
|
1203
|
28%
|
8%
|
7
|
165
|
4%
|
4%
|
25
|
1%
|
0.087%
| 4128

36
|
04/04/2020
|
4273
|
331
|
4604
|
8%
|
-22%
|
17
|
137
|
14%
|
3.0%
|
62
|
1265
|
27%
|
5%
|
4
|
169
|
4%
|
2%
|
25
|
1%
|
0.094%
| 4442

37
|
05/04/2020
|
4604
|
390
|
4994
|
8%
|
18%
|
21
|
158
|
15%
|
3.2%
|
80
|
1345
|
27%
|
6%
|
25
|
194
|
4%
|
15%
|
25
|
1%
|
0.101%
| 4811

38
|
06/04/2020
|
4994
|
370
|
5364
|
7%
|
-5%
|
16
|
174
|
10%
|
3.2%
|
127
|
1472
|
27%
|
9%
|
30
|
224
|
4%
|
15%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.109%
| 5165

39
|
07/04/2020
|
5364
|
345
|
5709
|
6%
|
-7%
|
36
|
210
|
21%
|
3.7%
|
49
|
1521
|
27%
|
3%
|
6
|
230
|
4%
|
3%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.116%
| 5474

40
|
08/04/2020
|
5709
|
365
|
6074
|
6%
|
6%
|
25
|
235
|
12%
|
3.9%
|
110
|
1631
|
27%
|
7%
|
14
|
244
|
4%
|
6%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.123%
| 5814

41
|
09/04/2020
|
6074
|
500
|
6574
|
8%
|
37%
|
28
|
263
|
12%
|
4.0%
|
87
|
1718
|
26%
|
5%
|
9
|
253
|
4%
|
4%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.134%
| 6286

42* ~
|
10/04/2020
|
6574
|
1515
|
8089
|
23%
|
203%
|
25
|
287
|
9%
|
4.0%
|
59
|
1777
|
22%
|
3%
|
8
|
261
|
3%
|
3%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.164%
| 7777

43*
|
11/04/2020
|
8089
|
839
|
8928
|
10%
|
-45%
|
33
|
320
|
11%
|
3.6%
|
72
|
1849
|
21%
|
4%
|
7
|
268
|
3%
|
3%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.181%
| 8583

44*
|
12/04/2020
|
8928
|
727
|
9655
|
8%
|
-13%
|
14
|
334
|
4%
|
3.5%
|
54
|
1903
|
20%
|
3%
|
7
|
275
|
3%
|
3%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.196%
| 9296

45*
|
13/04/2020
|
9655
|
992
|
10647
|
10%
|
36%
|
31
|
365
|
9%
|
3.4%
|
65
|
1968
|
18%
|
3%
|
5
|
280
|
3%
|
2%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.216%
| 10257

46*
|
14/04/2020
|
10647
|
832
|
11479
|
8%
|
-16%
|
41
|
406
|
11%
|
3.5%
|
58
|
2026
|
18%
|
3%
|
4
|
284
|
2%
|
1%
|
25
|
0%
|
0.233%
| 11048

47*
|
15/04/2020
|
11479
|
1068
|
12547
|
9%
|
28%
|
38
|
444
|
9%
|
3.5%
|
56
|
2082
|
17%
|
3%
|
10
|
294
|
2%
|
4%
|
77
|
1%
|
0.255%
| 12026

48 * ~
|
16/04/2020
|
12547
|
724
|
13271
|
6%
|
-32%
|
43
|
486
|
9%
|
3.7%
|
86
|
2168
|
16%
|
4%
|
2
|
296
|
2%
|
1%
|
77
|
1%
|
0.270%
| 12708

49*
|
17/04/2020
|
13271
|
709
|
13980
|
5%
|
-2%
|
44
|
530
|
9%
|
3.8%
|
55
|
2223
|
16%
|
3%
|
7
|
303
|
2%
|
2%
|
77
|
1%
|
0.284%
| 13373

50*
|
18/04/2020
|
13980
|
778
|
14758
|
6%
|
10%
|
41
|
571
|
8%
|
3.9%
|
49
|
2272
|
15%
|
2%
|
3
|
306
|
2%
|
1%
|
77
|
1%
|
0.300%
| 14110

51*
|
19/04/2020
|
14758
|
493
|
15251
|
3%
|
-37%
|
39
|
610
|
7%
|
4.0%
|
51
|
2323
|
15%
|
2%
|
9
|
315
|
2%
|
3%
|
77
|
1%
|
0.310%
| 14564

52
|
20/04/2020
|
15251
|
401
|
15652
|
3%
|
-19%
|
77
|
687
|
13%
|
4.4%
|
64
|
2387
|
15%
|
3%
|
7
|
322
|
2%
|
2%
|
77
|
0%
|
0.318%
| 14888

53 ~
|
21/04/2020
|
15652
|
388
|
16040
|
2%
|
-3%
|
44
|
730
|
6%
|
4.6%
|
37
|
2424
|
15%
|
2%
|
9
|
331
|
2%
|
3%
|
9233
|
58%
|
0.326%
| 6077

54 ~
|
22/04/2020
|
16040
|
631
|
16671
|
4%
|
63%
|
49
|
769
|
5%
|
4.6%
|
0
|
2424
|
15%
|
0%
|
0
|
331
|
2%
|
0%
|
9233
|
55%
|
0.339%
| 6669

55 ~
|
23/04/2020
|
16671
|
936
|
17607
|
6%
|
48%
|
28
|
794
|
3%
|
4.5%
|
0
|
2424
|
14%
|
0%
|
0
|
331
|
2%
|
0%
|
9233
|
52%
|
0.358%
| 7580

CFR = Case fatality rate
NR = Not reported

Source: Department of Health, the Health Protection Surveillance Centre and the HSE.

NOTES: -
* Daily increase numbers on these dates represent both new cases and older cases reported from Germany which results in skewed daily % increases and average case reporting % changes, numbers are broken down as:-
Day|Date|New Irish Cases|German Cases
42|10/04/20|480|1035
43|11/04/20|553|286
44|12/04/20|430|297
45|13/04/20| 527|465
46|14/04/20|548|284
47|15/04/20|657|411
48|16/04/20|629|95
49|17/04/20|597|112
50|18/04/20|630|148
51|19/04/20|445|48

~ Denotification of deaths:-
10/04/20 – 1
16/04/20 – 1
21/04/20 – 1
22/04/20 – 10
23/04/20 – 3

** "Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data supplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting.

Recovered statistics are only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed. Updated on 15/04/20 - The WHO reporting criteria has been changed recently to eliminate the 2 test requirement before reporting as recovered, now an outcome report is sent within one month of initial notification or when an outcome is known, the available health outcomes are either “recovered/healthy”, “not recovered", “death", “unknown" or “other", weather this helps create more accurate recovery numbers or skews them further is yet to be seen.

*** Due to the above issue with reporting of recovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.

Case increase averages:-

Day
| Date | ▲Day 1 | ▲10 Days | ▲7 days | ▲3 Days | ■ Day 1 | ■ 10 Days | ■ 7 Days | ■ 3 days

1
| 29/02/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A

2
| 01/03/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0% | N/A | N/A | N/A

3
| 02/03/2020 | 0.0% | N/A | N/A | 0% | 0% | N/A | N/A | 0%

4
| 03/03/2020 | 25.0% | N/A | N/A | 33% | 0% | N/A | N/A | 0%

5
| 04/03/2020 | 60.0% | N/A | N/A | 100% | 60% | N/A | N/A | 100%

6
| 05/03/2020 | 69.4% | N/A | N/A | 139% | 63% | N/A | N/A | 125%

7
| 06/03/2020 | 65.0% | N/A | 65% | 118% | 49% | N/A | 49% | 115%

8
| 07/03/2020 | 57.6% | N/A | 66% | 54% | 33% | N/A | 38% | -11%

9
| 08/03/2020 | 52.4% | N/A | 67% | 18% | 41% | N/A | 52% | -3%

10
| 09/03/2020 | 49% | 49% | 69% | 10% | 42% | 42% | 59% | 23%

11
| 10/03/2020 | 48% | 53% | 61% | 22% | 59% | 65% | 93% | 128%

12
| 11/03/2020 | 46% | 55% | 36% | 27% | 53% | 64% | 49% | 91%

13
| 12/03/2020 | 47% | 62% | 29% | 44% | 65% | 84% | 66% | 141%

14
| 13/03/2020 | 46% | 54% | 27% | 39% | 58% | 81% | 67% | 55%

15
| 14/03/2020 | 46% | 39% | 33% | 45% | 61% | 61% | 92% | 90%

16
| 15/03/2020 | 45% | 30% | 35% | 34% | 57% | 54% | 78% | 24%

17
| 16/03/2020 | 44% | 30% | 38% | 35% | 56% | 60% | 76% | 44%

18
| 17/03/2020 | 43% | 32% | 36% | 31% | 54% | 71% | 46% | 22%

19
| 18/03/2020 | 43% | 34% | 36% | 29% | 52% | 61% | 49% | 23%

20
| 19/03/2020 | 43% | 37% | 35% | 36% | 57% | 72% | 43% | 64%

21
| 20/03/2020 | 42% | 36% | 34% | 33% | 53% | 46% | 42% | 44%

22
| 21/03/2020 | 41% | 34% | 30% | 30% | 49% | 45% | 25% | 35%

23
| 22/03/2020 | 40% | 30% | 28% | 18% | 48% | 27% | 28% | -11%

24
| 23/03/2020 | 39% | 29% | 27% | 18% | 49% | 37% | 34% | 27%

25
| 24/03/2020 | 38% | 27% | 25% | 19% | 47% | 27% | 29% | 31%

26
| 25/03/2020 | 37% | 25% | 24% | 20% | 46% | 28% | 30% | 30%

27
| 26/03/2020 | 37% | 24% | 18% | 17% | 45% | 26% | 9% | 6%

28
| 27/03/2020 | 36% | 22% | 18% | 17% | 44% | 25% | 17% | 14%

29
| 28/03/2020 | 35% | 21% | 17% | 16% | 42% | 24% | 19% | 8%

30
| 29/03/2020 | 34% | 17% | 16% | 13% | 40% | 5% | 12% | -5%

31
| 30/03/2020 | 34% | 16% | 15% | 11% | 40% | 13% | 7% | 4%

32
| 31/03/2020 | 33% | 15% | 14% | 10% | 39% | 16% | 9% | 9%

33
| 01/04/2020 | 32% | 14% | 12% | 10% | 37% | 10% | 2% | 8%

34
| 02/04/2020 | 31% | 13% | 11% | 10% | 38% | 11% | 14% | 22%

35
| 03/04/2020 | 31% | 12% | 11% | 10% | 37% | 13% | 12% | 20%

36
| 04/04/2020 | 30% | 11% | 10% | 10% | 36% | 9% | 9% | 24%

37
| 05/04/2020 | 30% | 11% | 10% | 9% | 35% | 10% | 16% | 0%

38
| 06/04/2020 | 29% | 10% | 9% | 8% | 34% | 7% | 9% | -3%

39
| 07/04/2020 | 28% | 9% | 8% | 7% | 33% | 7% | 6% | 2%

40
| 08/04/2020 | 28% | 9% | 8% | 7% | 32% | 11% | 12% | -2%

41
| 09/04/2020 | 27% | 9% | 8% | 7% | 32% | 10% | 5% | 12%

42
| 10/04/2020 | 27% | 10% | 10% | 13% | 37% | 29% | 33% | 82%

43
| 11/04/2020 | 27% | 10% | 10% | 14% | 35% | 28% | 30% | 65%

44
| 12/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 10% | 14% | 34% | 18% | 25% | 48%

45
| 13/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 10% | 10% | 34% | 21% | 31% | -7%

46
| 14/04/2020 | 26% | 10% | 11% | 9% | 33% | 21% | 30% | 2%

47
| 15/04/2020 | 25% | 10% | 11% | 9% | 32% | 22% | 33% | 16%

48
| 16/04/2020 | 25% | 10% | 11% | 8% | 31% | 20% | 23% | -7%

49
| 17/04/2020 | 25% | 9% | 8% | 7% | 30% | 20% | -6% | -2%

50
| 18/04/2020 | 24% | 9% | 7% | 6% | 30% | 21% | 2% | -8%

51
| 19/04/2020 | 24% | 9% | 7% | 5% | 29% | 13% | -2% | -10%

52
| 20/04/2020 | 23% | 7% | 6% | 4% | 28% | -9% | -10% | -15%

53
| 21/04/2020 | 23% | 6% | 5% | 3% | 27% | -5% | -8% | -20%

54
| 22/04/2020 | 23% | 6% | 4% | 3% | 28% | 3% | -3% | 14%

55
| 23/04/2020 | 22% | 5% | 4% | 4% | 28% | 4% | 9% | 36%

▲ = Daily case increase averaged over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1
■ = Daily case reporting change averaged over the past 10, 7 and 3 days and from day 1

Northern Ireland Statistics:-

Day
|
Date
|
Cases
|
New Cases
|
Total Cases
|
Case Increase
|
Reporting Increase
|
New Deaths
|
Total Deaths
|
% Increase
|
CFR
| Population %

1
|
29/02/2020
|
0
|
1
|
1
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.000%

2
|
01/03/2020
|
1
|
0
|
1
|
0%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.000%

3
|
02/03/2020
|
1
|
0
|
1
|
0%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.000%

4
|
03/03/2020
|
1
|
0
|
1
|
0%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.000%

5
|
04/03/2020
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
200%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.000%

6
|
05/03/2020
|
3
|
0
|
3
|
0%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.000%

7
|
06/03/2020
|
3
|
1
|
4
|
33%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.000%

8
|
07/03/2020
|
4
|
3
|
7
|
75%
|
200%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.000%

9
|
08/03/2020
|
7
|
5
|
12
|
71%
|
67%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.001%

10
|
09/03/2020
|
12
|
0
|
12
|
0%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.001%

11
|
10/03/2020
|
12
|
4
|
16
|
33%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.001%

12
|
11/03/2020
|
16
|
2
|
18
|
13%
|
-50%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.001%

13
|
12/03/2020
|
18
|
2
|
20
|
11%
|
0%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.001%

14
|
13/03/2020
|
20
|
9
|
29
|
45%
|
350%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.002%

15
|
14/03/2020
|
29
|
5
|
34
|
17%
|
-44%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.002%

16
|
15/03/2020
|
34
|
11
|
45
|
32%
|
120%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.002%

17
|
16/03/2020
|
45
|
7
|
52
|
16%
|
-36%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.003%

18
|
17/03/2020
|
52
|
10
|
62
|
19%
|
43%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.003%

19
|
18/03/2020
|
62
|
6
|
68
|
10%
|
-40%
|
0
|
0
|
N/A
|
N/A
| 0.004%

20
|
19/03/2020
|
68
|
9
|
77
|
13%
|
50%
|
1
|
1
|
N/A
|
1.3%
| 0.004%

21
|
20/03/2020
|
77
|
9
|
86
|
12%
|
0%
|
0
|
1
|
100%
|
1.2%
| 0.005%

22
|
21/03/2020
|
86
|
22
|
108
|
26%
|
144%
|
0
|
1
|
100%
|
0.9%
| 0.006%

23
|
22/03/2020
|
108
|
20
|
128
|
19%
|
-9%
|
1
|
2
|
100%
|
1.6%
| 0.007%

24
|
23/03/2020
|
128
|
20
|
148
|
16%
|
0%
|
1
|
3
|
50%
|
2.0%
| 0.008%

25
|
24/03/2020
|
148
|
24
|
172
|
16%
|
20%
|
2
|
5
|
67%
|
2.9%
| 0.009%

26
|
25/03/2020
|
172
|
37
|
209
|
22%
|
54%
|
2
|
7
|
40%
|
3.3%
| 0.011%

27
|
26/03/2020
|
209
|
32
|
241
|
15%
|
-14%
|
3
|
10
|
43%
|
4.1%
| 0.013%

28
|
27/03/2020
|
241
|
34
|
275
|
14%
|
6%
|
3
|
13
|
30%
|
4.7%
| 0.014%

29
|
28/03/2020
|
275
|
49
|
324
|
18%
|
44%
|
2
|
15
|
15%
|
4.6%
| 0.017%

30
|
29/03/2020
|
324
|
86
|
410
|
27%
|
76%
|
6
|
21
|
40%
|
5.1%
| 0.021%

31
|
30/03/2020
|
410
|
123
|
533
|
30%
|
43%
|
1
|
22
|
5%
|
4.1%
| 0.028%

32
|
31/03/2020
|
533
|
53
|
586
|
10%
|
-57%
|
6
|
28
|
27%
|
4.8%
| 0.031%

33
|
01/04/2020
|
586
|
103
|
689
|
18%
|
94%
|
2
|
30
|
7%
|
4.4%
| 0.036%

34
|
02/04/2020
|
689
|
85
|
774
|
12%
|
-17%
|
6
|
36
|
20%
|
4.7%
| 0.041%

35
|
03/04/2020
|
774
|
130
|
904
|
17%
|
53%
|
12
|
48
|
33%
|
5.3%
| 0.047%

36
|
04/04/2020
|
904
|
94
|
998
|
10%
|
-28%
|
8
|
56
|
17%
|
5.6%
| 0.052%

37
|
05/04/2020
|
998
|
91
|
1089
|
9%
|
-3%
|
7
|
63
|
13%
|
5.8%
| 0.057%

38
|
06/04/2020
|
1089
|
69
|
1158
|
6%
|
-24%
|
7
|
70
|
11%
|
6.0%
| 0.061%

39
|
07/04/2020
|
1158
|
97
|
1255
|
8%
|
41%
|
3
|
73
|
4%
|
5.8%
| 0.066%

40
|
08/04/2020
|
1255
|
84
|
1339
|
7%
|
-13%
|
5
|
78
|
7%
|
5.8%
| 0.070%

41
|
09/04/2020
|
1339
|
138
|
1477
|
10%
|
64%
|
4
|
82
|
5%
|
5.6%
| 0.077%

42
|
10/04/2020
|
1477
|
112
|
1589
|
8%
|
-19%
|
10
|
92
|
12%
|
5.8%
| 0.083%

43
|
11/04/2020
|
1589
|
128
|
1717
|
8%
|
14%
|
15
|
107
|
16%
|
6.2%
| 0.090%

44
|
12/04/2020
|
1717
|
89
|
1806
|
5%
|
-30%
|
11
|
118
|
10%
|
6.5%
| 0.095%

45
|
13/04/2020
|
1806
|
76
|
1882
|
4%
|
-15%
|
6
|
124
|
5%
|
6.6%
| 0.098%

46
|
14/04/2020
|
1882
|
85
|
1967
|
5%
|
12%
|
10
|
134
|
8%
|
6.8%
| 0.103%

47
|
15/04/2020
|
1967
|
121
|
2088
|
6%
|
42%
|
6
|
140
|
4%
|
6.7%
| 0.109%

48
|
16/04/2020
|
2088
|
113
|
2201
|
5%
|
-7%
|
18
|
158
|
13%
|
7.2%
| 0.115%

49
|
17/04/2020
|
2201
|
137
|
2338
|
6%
|
21%
|
18
|
176
|
11%
|
7.5%
| 0.122%

50
|
18/04/2020
|
2338
|
148
|
2486
|
6%
|
8%
|
17
|
193
|
10%
|
7.8%
| 0.130%

51
|
19/04/2020
|
2486
|
159
|
2645
|
6%
|
7%
|
1
|
194
|
1%
|
7.3%
| 0.138%

52
|
20/04/2020
|
2645
|
83
|
2728
|
3%
|
-48%
|
13
|
207
|
7%
|
7.6%
| 0.143%

53*
|
21/04/2020
|
2728
|
NR
|
2728
|
N/A
|
N/A
|
9
|
216
|
4%
|
7.9%
| 0.143%

54*
|
22/04/2020
|
2728
|
146
|
2874
|
5%
|
N/A
|
34
|
250
|
16%
|
8.7%
| 0.150%

55
|
23/04/2020
|
2874
|
142
|
3016
|
5%
|
-3%
|
13
|
263
|
5%
|
8.7%
| 0.158%

CFR = Case fatality rate
NR = Not reported

Source: The Public Health Agency for Northern Ireland and the Department of Health NI.

NOTES: -
* The PHA changed over to daily dashboard reporting from 21/04/20, however due to an error in reporting the dashboard was taken down which resulted in no official daily case figures released for the 21/04/20 as a result (other than deaths figures which were released via news sources). The DoH also advised on 22/04/20 that the total number of deaths on 22/04/2020 stands at 250 which includes revised figures for an unspecified number of previous days.

World Statistics:-

Total Cases
|
Total Deaths
|
Recoveries
|
Active Caes
|
Fatality rate
|
Recovery rate
| World Population %
2,699,462
|
188,930
|
740,379
|
1,770,153
|
7.0%
|
27.43%
| 0.035%

Source: Worldmeters, based on reported numbers @ 20.05.

Animals:-

Animal Type
|
Confirmed
| Suspected
Cat
|
0
| 1
Dog
|
2
| 0
Lion
|
0
| 3
Tiger
|
1
| 3
TOTALS
|
3
| 7
Source: World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE).

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#3172 23-04-2020 08:09PM

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ZX7R wrote: »

One way would be to do selective testing in the community where know outbreaks were.
It would be a good way to get an average of spread.

There was talk of serological testing today but those tests are not accurate enough yet and the CMO did give an example of random testing.

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#3173 23-04-2020 08:09PM

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New Home wrote: »

"Peace" of mind? Bad expression, in the circumstances. Should his symptoms worsen (and please God they won't!!!) at least he'd be taken more seriously if he were to need a doctor. That's one thing that springs to mind.

A doctor should take him seriously if there's already a positive case in the house.

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#3174 23-04-2020 08:11PM

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is_that_so wrote: »

MoH convenes it, it seems.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/healthwellbeing/our-priority-programmes/hcai/european-antibiotics-awareness-day/public-health-emergency/

EDIT: There's also a Wikipedia entry so Kelly just being lazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Public_Health_Emergency_Team

You may hot have read the questions asked by Kelly, the documents you referenced in no way addressed the issues raised.

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#3175 23-04-2020 08:12PM

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Away With The Fairies wrote: »

A doctor should take him seriously if there's already a positive case in the house.

He said he got tested so quite clearly he was taken seriously.

Test or no test theres 1 confirmed case in the house, everyone in the house isolates simple as.

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#3176 23-04-2020 08:14PM

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joe_99 wrote: »

No would be a very solid assumption. Politics at play in the US. Typical red v blue nonsense.

So it can't really be said at this stage that they are doing better than European countries, which the poster was suggesting. We might not really know till the 2020/21 mortality rate for various countries are compared with those from previous years.

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If there is ever a strategy that allows people with antibodies to go on with their lives (with some kind of permit or certificate) I guarantee that thousands of people will try to intentionally infect themselves

They might but they would need to be 100% sure that they don't have an unknown health issue. The amount of people who think that they are healthy etc because they exercise and eat right and suddenly find out their not is a thing.

At this stage we don't know for certain how having and surviving from it has in terms of ongoing complications and reduction in life expectancy, but some reports aren't great reading.

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#3178 23-04-2020 08:16PM

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stephenjmcd wrote: »

He said he got tested so quite clearly he was taken seriously.

Test or no test theres 1 confirmed case in the house, everyone in the house isolates simple as.

I would have assumed if the person originally tested working in the hse tested positive that the whole family living together would be tested also

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#3179 23-04-2020 08:18PM

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ZX7R wrote: »

I would have assumed if the person originally tested working in the hse tested positive that the whole family living together would be tested also

Quite possibly, not sure what way that works

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#3180 23-04-2020 08:18PM

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bekker wrote: »

You may hot have read the questions asked by Kelly, the documents you referenced in no way addressed the issues raised.

I did read them and my links answer most of them. They are an expert group and making recommendations to government is how they work. They are not a permanent fixture. The government decide and make the announcements based on their advice. CMO answered the questions about the minutes.

I have real no issue with the questions being asked but most of the answers are in the public domain. Unfortunately there's only faux opposition at present with people just repeating their bugbears. I look forward to a new government, opposition, committees and even a new Seanad, hopefully by June.

“Who is NPHET ultimately accountable to? Who makes the final decisions? Do NPHET have to consult with you or the Minister for Health before making formal announcements that affect all the citizens of this country?

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#3181 23-04-2020 08:19PM

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ZX7R wrote: »

I would have assumed if the person originally tested working in the hse tested positive that the whole family living together would be tested also

No, I rang the GP and she said I should get tested anyway with my symptoms. I never asked about my our 10 year old daughter actually, and neither did she. That's a question for tomorrow I guess

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