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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #3122
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Let's make it simple.

    100 people are infected in a country. 10 people die.

    If we identified 50 of those cases. 10 people die.

    If we identified no cases. 10 people die.

    Identifying cases does not increase deaths. The rationale is that if we identify more we can stop the spread so that less people are infected.

    Actually identifying cases reduces the death toll. Not identified not in hospital, higher chance of dying.

    Not identified, not isolated, higher chance of spreading virus to more people and more deaths.


  • #3123
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Marty Bird wrote: »
    Absolutely heartbreaking to here the true cost of this horrible thing.

    It was heartbreaking, if you were to ask people the question how would the choose to die, I'm sure most would prefer not to be alone.

    RIP


  • #3124
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Nursing homes are closed environments so we should be able to address them.

    Lack of community transmission is a massive positive. Well done to all.

    I'm not convinced. If community transmission was low, only an occassional nursing home would be affected, to reflect low community prevalence.

    Seems like its very prevalent in the community but may well be mild or asymptomatic. It also sounds like a lot of asymptomatic and mild cases in nursing homes.


  • #3125
    Reckless Abandonment
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Have they said how many test they are doing a day now ?


  • #3126
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    RIP

    Was he in a residential care centre?

    Not sure

    She had to say goodbye to him through a computer screen

    She said to him if you can hear my voice open your eyes he did for a moment closed them and passed away

    Two nurses were holding his hands at the end which brought some comfort to his mother


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  • #3127
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Something very Underpants Gnomey about this post

    Identifying the infected is not the cause of fewer deaths, its enforcing quarantine on those infected people that will reduce future deaths.

    You can either lock everyone down indefinitely, or bring community spread down to a manageable level and then slowly lift restrictions while rigorously contact tracing everyone who tests positive

    Re-read the conversation I was having. You have jumped in with zero context it looks like.


  • #3128
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Deleted User wrote: »
    77 43 39 28. Convenient?

    It's a good start... now take an average over several weeks.

    Let's say 2-3 weeks... as that's roughly the incubation period of the virus. Convenient? ;)


  • #3129
    PixieValentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭PixieValentine


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Still pretty low deaths, considering the huge amount of cases they have...

    They have more than 4.5 times Italy's number of confirmed cases, but less than double their deaths.

    They're a huge country, that gets probably more movement and international travel over their borders than most nations. They seem to be doing reasonably okay right now, all things considered.

    Are they reporting all deaths though? Nursing homes etc? My understanding as of the 16th, at least, was that only some states were counting their nursing home deaths, not every state. Now, I know I’m not up to date there- I just can't keep up with everything everywhere! So that absolutely could have changed since, or maybe I’m just not accurate in what I’m saying, but if it was true and it is still true, then surely that would confuse the picture a bit?


  • #3130
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    It's a good start... now take an average over several weeks.

    Let's say 2-3 weeks... as that's roughly the incubation period of the virus. Convenient? ;)

    Glad you agree;). I expect better days and worse but will get there.


  • #3131
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Be right back


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Not sure

    She had to say goodbye to him through a computer screen

    She said to him if you can hear my voice open your eyes he did for a moment closed them and passed away

    Two nurses were holding his hands at the end which brought some comfort to his mother

    How terrible.. It's awful when people have to say goodbye in this way.


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  • #3132
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Not sure

    She had to say goodbye to him through a computer screen

    She said to him if you can hear my voice open your eyes he did for a moment closed them and passed away

    Two nurses were holding his hands at the end which brought some comfort to his mother

    Jesus that's tragic. :(


  • #3133
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Glad you agree;). I expect better days and worse but will get there.

    Agree with what?


  • #3134
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    It's a good start... now take an average over several weeks.

    Let's say 2-3 weeks... as that's roughly the incubation period of the virus. Convenient? ;)

    You were jumping up and down when it was 77 and just focusing on the number in isolation. Now that doesn’t suit you anymore you are trying to find another way to cut the data to support your doom-and-gloom, lockdown forever agenda


  • #3135
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,617 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Yes, makes it seem like USA is doing very badly but the death rate is better than most European countries.

    Are all US states recording deaths in the same way?


  • #3136
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Not sure

    She had to say goodbye to him through a computer screen

    She said to him if you can hear my voice open your eyes he did for a moment closed them and passed away

    Two nurses were holding his hands at the end which brought some comfort to his mother

    I missed it on the news. It sounds so sad and upsetting.


  • #3137
    flanzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,150 ✭✭✭flanzer


    Hi, I don't know if it's being discussed here, but is anyone awaiting results? My wife, who works in hospital front line (non-covid front line), had slight symptoms on Monday morning, and got a test soon after. It came back positive on Tuesday. Healthcare workers get a quick test and result.

    I had slight symptoms too, so organised a test on yesterday morning, after she got her results. I did the test yesterday in Croke Park, and am just wondering if anyone has got results back quickly in the last couple of days?


  • #3138
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Refractions wrote: »
    Mass testing going on now folks. My wife has been redeployed to testing and the workload is going to be intense for the foreseeable. Be prepared to see crazy jumps in cases day to day.

    Heard similar. In fairness a few big jumps might be whats needed to stop the complacency.

    Not impressed with the multiple groups huddled together i seen today in Fairview park.


  • #3139
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You were jumping up and down when it was 77 and just focusing on the number in isolation. Now that doesn’t suit you anymore you are trying to find another way to cut the data to support your doom-and-gloom, lockdown forever agenda

    Jumping up and down? lol It's amazing how people can see someone's emotional state through a computer screen! :rolleyes: (I'm actually a very calm person tbh - even when others are getting highly stressed)

    Not at all... actually I've been focused on the average daily rate consistently for quite some time now. Obviously a large spike in one day, will bring that average up... goes without saying really.


  • #3140
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Are people picking up the disease from their whoring cats? Or dogs?

    No that was covid17


  • #3141
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Agree with what?

    So your not taking a complete approach and trying to get a picture of the full current situation based on all the available data? Please don’t tell me you are just looking at the latest set of numbers and are picking the one that most matches a completely negative outlook? Someone who did that would have been beating the deaths drum for the last few days while cases were stable and falling, but would have switched to the cases drum today when a huge drop in deaths occurred, while completely ignoring what is the most reliable figure, ICU admissions which have been slowly and steadily falling for about a week. Please don’t tell me that’s you?


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  • #3142
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    If hospitalisations are down hugely but new cases in the community are up hugely in coming weeks, its possible we are looking at a milder strain of this.


  • #3143
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You were jumping up and down when it was 77 and just focusing on the number in isolation. Now that doesn’t suit you anymore you are trying to find another way to cut the data to support your doom-and-gloom, lockdown forever agenda

    Agreed. It's beyond parady at this stage. I feel a block coming on.


  • #3144
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    joe_99 wrote: »
    Agreed. It's beyond parady at this stage. I feel a block coming on.

    Me too. Is just being contrarian for the sake of it

    Edit: how do you block someone. I’ve never done it before


  • #3145
    Princess Calla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,411 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    RIP

    Was he in a residential care centre?

    Yeah he was.

    Said he had down syndrome and dementia.


  • #3146
    Refractions
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Refractions


    flanzer wrote: »
    Hi, I don't know if it's being discussed here, but is anyone awaiting results? My wife, who works in hospital front line (non-covid front line), had slight symptoms on Monday morning, and got a test soon after. It came back positive on Tuesday. Healthcare workers get a quick test and result.

    I had slight symptoms too, so organised a test on yesterday morning, after she got her results. I did the test yesterday in Croke Park, and am just wondering if anyone has got results back quickly in the last couple of days?

    Just assume you have it and act accordingly... if you don't have it already you likely will have it soon.


  • #3147
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,048 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Still pretty low deaths, considering the huge amount of cases they have...

    They have more than 4.5 times Italy's number of confirmed cases, but less than double their deaths.

    They're a huge country, that gets probably more movement and international travel over their borders than most nations. They seem to be doing reasonably okay right now, all things considered.

    The U.S. thus far has maintained a relatively low level of infection and death throughout 47 of its states, but at the same time there is a huge crisis going on in New York especially, and crises mounting in New Jersey and New Orleans.

    If the death rate per million was evenly spread throughout all areas of the U.S., it would be a lot better, but if Trump tries to come and say the U.S. is doing well, I'm sure Mayor Cuomo of New York city would disagree.


  • #3148
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    flanzer wrote: »
    Hi, I don't know if it's being discussed here, but is anyone awaiting results? My wife, who works in hospital front line (non-covid front line), had slight symptoms on Monday morning, and got a test soon after. It came back positive on Tuesday. Healthcare workers get a quick test and result.

    I had slight symptoms too, so organised a test on yesterday morning, after she got her results. I did the test yesterday in Croke Park, and am just wondering if anyone has got results back quickly in the last couple of days?

    If your wife is positive, you have symptoms, you're probably also positive. I don't know why you need a test to be told you're positive.


  • #3149
    joe_99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 763 ✭✭✭joe_99


    nacho libre wrote: »
    Are all US states recording deaths in the same way?

    No would be a very solid assumption. Politics at play in the US. Typical red v blue nonsense.


  • #3150
    Be right back
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    Princess Calla wrote: »
    Yeah he was.

    Said he had down syndrome and dementia.

    The poor man.


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  • #3151
    babaracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭babaracus


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Or maybe nothing will. Maybe this is the disease X that can't be stopped .

    It's entirely possible no drug will work or no vaccine will be created successfully.

    That's the nightmare scenario I don't want to think about.

    I think our best hope is this virus decides to mutate to something much more manageable and we can go about our lives again.

    Something which in all likelihood kills about 0.5% or less of those who get it perhaps? Something which kills mainly those 80+ in poor health with existing conditions or ill health maybe?

    We have approached and are approaching this in entirely the wrong way Those 70+ should have been place on full state and community supported lockdown and the rest should have got on with their lives. This is not the bubonic plague which wiped out 30% or more of the population when it hit.

    By properly protecting those who were most likely to get it, like those in nursing homes and all over 70, while allowing the rest of us to face it, get it and get immunity then this could have been ended a lot quicker, and not at the cost of tens of billions of euros which we do not have. The economy is shagged and the serious health costs of that have yet to be quantified.


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