Better Call Saul Spoilers

EltonJohn69 · 21-04-2020 8:31pm

Initially I thought Kim was testing Jimmy to see if hadn’t learned his lesson in the desert and was seeing how easy he would go back to his old ways... I guess I was way off...

ricero · 21-04-2020 8:37pm

Great ending to a fantastic series. This show gets better and better each series.

Although these "top professional" assasins sent by Gus reminded me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oECsGvS9gc4

The White Wolf · 21-04-2020 8:52pm

ricero wrote: »

Great ending to a fantastic series. This show gets better and better each series.

Although these "top professional" assasins sent by Gus reminded me of this

I'm in two minds about Gus hiring those donkeys; on the one hand it felt like an unrealistic plot contrivance designed to make Lalo look like The Terminator.

On the other hand, both Breaking Bad and BCS have indicated on multiple occasions that for all Gus' intelligence and planning, he can get out caught out badly. At heart he's a businessman who probably just got a **** referral here. :pac:

Mad_maxx · 21-04-2020 9:55pm

lalo will peel nacho like an onion but one thing im wondering

where was nacho supposed to go once the hired shooters entered the property ?

was he expected to wander the desert ?

JoeExotic81 · 21-04-2020 10:02pm

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Initially I thought Kim was testing Jimmy to see if hadn’t learned his lesson in the desert and was seeing how easy he would go back to his old ways... I guess I was way off...

I dunno, part of me still thinks/hopes that is exactly what she is doing. Although the manner she shrugged off the near death experience with Lalo suggests she might be losing the plot or having some sort of breakdown in slow motion. It just didn't sit right with me. I'll hold off until I see it pan out though.

Gus' hitmen were fvcking ridiculously bad though

The whole finale felt off for me. Maybe the large gaps between seasons have impacted how intune I am with it, and Kim's character. Still, cannot wait for the final season!

scamalert · 21-04-2020 10:09pm

interesting ending, Gus said assembled best men for job lol.

its hard to guess the story, as given salamancas the twins id imagine would get involved and given nacho isnt much for some takeover it would be obvious that Gus was behind, but that doesn;t tie up in BB series

since cant imagine lalo going alone on this.

Kim seems as said above just slow train wreck waiting to happen.

Oh well, quite few good episodes and seems this show could go on forever, but its like what another year to wait now

Pacifico · 21-04-2020 10:11pm

scamalert wrote: »

Oh well, quite few good episodes and seems this show could go on forever, but its like what another year to wait now

2022 ☹️

zuutroy · 21-04-2020 10:28pm

Finale was a total letdown imo after a brilliant series. Very disappointed.

JeffKenna · 21-04-2020 10:36pm

I was a bit disappointed with the ending. Kim's sudden change didn't really make sense and the hitmen being so poor didn't either.

mcmoustache · 21-04-2020 10:52pm

Noo wrote: »

Oh Nacho

He made FarCry 3 memorable. It's worth playing for his performance as an antagonist alone.

cozar · 21-04-2020 10:54pm

I thought Lalo was the one who rang nacho to test him.

_Kaiser_ · 21-04-2020 11:01pm

zuutroy wrote: »

Finale was a total letdown imo after a brilliant series. Very disappointed.

Agree with this. Lalo aside, it was very anticlimactic after last week.

Once again I just couldn't care less about Jimmy and Kim's drama and will she "break bad". The character has definitely had some great moments this season (last week in particular), but I've never found her particularly interesting or even likeable (controversial I know as many here seem ready to canonise her).

It was another case of the supposed "B story" being the highlight.

shrewdness · 21-04-2020 11:05pm

What a season that was, great TV. Lalo will be on a rampage in season 6, fantastic character.

This scene from BB may make a bit more sense now too.

leggo · 21-04-2020 11:23pm

That is interesting to watch. It tells us:

1) Nacho may still be allve by the time BB starts, though Saul could just not know if something happened to him.

2) Gus must’ve successfully spun the hit as organised by Nacho, if that’s the story they were told to put out, and Saul is sticking to script there because now we know he knows Mike was involved and doesn’t sell him out. Which ties in with last week’s conclusion too about him being able to keep a lie going with a gun effectively to his head.

3) Lalo must actually leave Jimmy and Kim alone if Saul’s instinct is that that was his revenge. So whatever happens Kim will be a result of how the Howard revenge plan goes and not at the hands of Lalo, killing every theory this thread had just last week.

Not bad work for Gilligan and co considering that was probably a throwaway line they stuck in when they originally wrote it.

wadacrack · 22-04-2020 7:57am

Very poor ending. The first time the series felt totally unrealistic. Kim's behavior especially. Almost like they tried too hard as it was the finale of the series

ixoy · 22-04-2020 8:08am

While I broadly agree that Kim's turnaround seems out of place, I think it's important to note that Jimmy also thinks it's out of place. He's shocked by it too which means it's not expected and it is worryingly out of character.

Standman · 22-04-2020 8:14am

Didn't realise that was the finale - thought this was the last season! Enjoyed it though.

I thought I knew what was going on in Kim's head... every time Jimmy did something morally abhorrent and Kim had that expression on her face like she was slowly seeing who he really was, I thought she was getting one more step closer to leaving him. Turns out she liked what she saw?

Hard to square that with how she seemed to be going the opposite direction in the other part of her life, leaving the soulless corporate job and taking on the pro-bono clients. We'll see how it goes I suppose.

deisedude · 22-04-2020 8:30am

Standman wrote: »

Didn't realise that was the finale - thought this was the last season! Enjoyed it though.

I thought I knew what was going on in Kim's head... every time Jimmy did something morally abhorrent and Kim had that expression on her face like she was slowly seeing who he really was, I thought she was getting one more step closer to leaving him. Turns out she liked what she saw?

Hard to square that with how she seemed to be going the opposite direction in the other part of her life, leaving the soulless corporate job and taking on the pro-bono clients. We'll see how it goes I suppose.

I think she is trying to convince herself she is a good person by taking on these pro-bono clients.

Even the plot to destroy Howard is wrapped up in this cognitive dissonance that its ok for one man to suffer if she can setup a law firm helping the helpless and the Sandpiper residents.

I feel her transformation over the course of the series is almost like Macbeth. Changing from a good character at the start, does some bad things and is wracked by guilt to ultimately turning to an evil and wicked character

FrancieBrady · 22-04-2020 8:45am

ixoy wrote: »

While I broadly agree that Kim's turnaround seems out of place, I think it's important to note that Jimmy also thinks it's out of place. He's shocked by it too which means it's not expected and it is worryingly out of character.

It's been clear that something has been eating Kim this whole series...I got what that was wrong. It doesn't make her endpoint unrealistic though...it fits perfectly with her many scenes of internalising 'something'. That the 'something' turned out to be a desire to put it to the man (Howard) was perfectly credible...she is still one of the most interesting, hard to get a handle on characters in this for me.

Great season, enjoyed every minute of it. Gutted I have to wait so long for the finale. My partner is just about to start from Season 1 for the first time...so so jealous!

Snake Plisken · 22-04-2020 8:47am

Some would say Kim is BCS's Walter White!
Anyway some nice feeaurettes about the last episode and the season in general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS834jifdyM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV3e4uS4PI4

thecretinhop · 22-04-2020 8:48am

the old guy who would not move his house told her sone home truths, that to me started or accelerated her change..

Mad_maxx · 22-04-2020 9:43am

I presume "the middle man" who ordered the hit was - is Mike?

I reckon after lalo takes out nacho, Mike will kill lalo and against the wishes of gus

Mike cares about nachos predicament and will feel guilty about his inevitable death

FrancieBrady · 22-04-2020 9:50am

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I presume "the middle man" who ordered the hit was - is Mike?

I reckon after lalo takes out nacho, Mike will kill lalo and against the wishes of gus

Mike cares about nachos predicament and will feel guilty about his inevitable death

Hmm..was Mike not seeking assurances off Gus that the job would be carried properly, in the scene outside the restaurant?
I took it he had nothing to do with the hit actually, though could be wrong.

JoeExotic81 · 22-04-2020 9:51am

ixoy wrote: »

While I broadly agree that Kim's turnaround seems out of place, I think it's important to note that Jimmy also thinks it's out of place. He's shocked by it too which means it's not expected and it is worryingly out of character.

Exactly, which is why I still hope they wrap up her story next season. She's either losing the plot or is testing Jimmy.

22-04-2020 10:04am

I was kind of hoping that the finale would wrap (nearly) everything up and season 6 would be set in the post-Breaking Bad/b&w Cinnabon world (with some flashbacks to fill in details about Kim). I suppose I have time to go write some fan fiction.

expectationlost · 22-04-2020 10:04am

wanted more to happen with Kim this ep, wanted to see her next move, but I guess just like last year we didn't see Jimmy turn into Saul until this season.

chops018 · 22-04-2020 10:33am

Mad_maxx wrote: »

I presume "the middle man" who ordered the hit was - is Mike?

I reckon after lalo takes out nacho, Mike will kill lalo and against the wishes of gus

Mike cares about nachos predicament and will feel guilty about his inevitable death

Nothing will happen to Lalo.

In season 2 of Breaking Bad when Walt and Jessie bring Saul to the dessert Saul says "Lalo didn't send you?".

Now, that doesn't mean something could happen to him and Saul just doesn't find out, but it would kinda go against the writing.

gary0345 · 22-04-2020 10:34am

After watching the season finali of Better call Saul I decided to watch breaking bad again and realised an overlap of the two programs.

In the first few minutes of of the first episode of BB during Walts 50th birthday party, Hank sticks on the news and he's being interviewed for putting 3 lads in cuffs and siezing about 700k, this is the same time line as better Call Saul episode s05e04 where it shows hank and gomez chasing them down

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Penn · 22-04-2020 10:40am

chops018 wrote: »

Nothing will happen to Lalo.

In season 2 of Breaking Bad when Walt and Jessie bring Saul to the dessert Saul says "Lalo didn't send you?".

Now, that doesn't mean something could happen to him and Saul just doesn't find out, but it would kinda go against the writing.

Well when Gus is taunting Hector a few seasons later, he tells him that all the Salamancas are dead. One of either Hector's nephews or grandsons was killed in the assault on Don Eladio's house, so Gus taunting Hector after that would suggest that guy was Hector's last relative (or at least last one involved in the Cartel).

That would suggest Gus knows Lalo is dead. Now I guess it could be suggested that Lalo is presumed dead at the end of this season, but I think it's unlikely Gus wouldn't find out Lalo is still alive during the course of next season considering Lalo will be on the warpath whereas Saul will obviously find out he's still alive. So I'd say the most likely explanation is everyone finds out Lalo is still alive next season, but by the end of it, Gus kills Lalo but Saul doesn't know about it (as he's still a bit removed from the war between Gus and Lalo).

MICKEYG · 22-04-2020 10:42am

Penn wrote: »

Well when Gus is taunting Hector a few seasons later, he tells him that all the Salamancas are dead. One of either Hector's nephews or grandsons was killed in the assault on Don Eladio's house, so Gus taunting Hector after that would suggest that guy was Hector's last relative (or at least last one involved in the Cartel).

That would suggest Gus knows Lalo is dead. Now I guess it could be suggested that Lalo is presumed dead at the end of this season, but I think it's unlikely Gus wouldn't find out Lalo is still alive during the course of next season considering Lalo will be on the warpath whereas Saul will obviously find out he's still alive. So I'd say the most likely explanation is everyone finds out Lalo is still alive next season, but by the end of it, Gus kills Lalo but Saul doesn't know about it (as he's still a bit removed from the war between Gus and Lalo).

Maybe in S6 Lalo is killed buy Gus does not tell Saul so he can keep him 'onside'. "I am protecting you from Lalo Salamanca, work for me or that protection stops"

EltonJohn69 · 22-04-2020 10:44am

It’s looking a lot like a Kim Nacho wedding... it’s the only way for the story to end and breaking bad make sense.

chops018 · 22-04-2020 10:45am

Penn wrote: »

Well when Gus is taunting Hector a few seasons later, he tells him that all the Salamancas are dead. One of either Hector's nephews or grandsons was killed in the assault on Don Eladio's house, so Gus taunting Hector after that would suggest that guy was Hector's last relative (or at least last one involved in the Cartel).

That would suggest Gus knows Lalo is dead. Now I guess it could be suggested that Lalo is presumed dead at the end of this season, but I think it's unlikely Gus wouldn't find out Lalo is still alive during the course of next season considering Lalo will be on the warpath whereas Saul will obviously find out he's still alive. So I'd say the most likely explanation is everyone finds out Lalo is still alive next season, but by the end of it, Gus kills Lalo but Saul doesn't know about it (as he's still a bit removed from the war between Gus and Lalo).

Or even depending on timelines it might work out. I think someone mentioned season 5 of BCS is running alongside season 1 of BB. If true the overlap could work in season 6.

Possibilities there for a lot of things I suppose.

s7ryf3925pivug · 22-04-2020 10:46am

MICKEYG wrote: »

Maybe in S6 Lalo is killed buy Gus does not tell Saul so he can keep him 'onside'. "I am protecting you from Lalo Salamanca, work for me or that protection stops"

That's a good impression of Gus

ZV Yoda · 22-04-2020 11:20am

I agree with the general sentiment that this episode didn't seem to do justice to the season. It was a bit of a damp squib.

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

It’s looking a lot like a Kim Nacho wedding... it’s the only way for the story to end and breaking bad make sense.

Do you mean a Kim / Lalo wedding? Lalo was definitely impressed by Kim when she told him at gunpoint how he should be running his business. Likewise, it's easy to see how she could be attracted to the danger & excitement of Lalo & the cartel. It's not implausible that she could work for the cartel making big bucks... while also doing her pro bono work. Lalo would even get a perverse kick of that.

I'm not sure if a romantic relationship really will develop between Kim & Lalo... but I could definitely see how a mutually beneficial business arrangement could happen.... especially if Saul gets involved in some new scam that pushes Kim away in the final season.

After I watched the finale last night, I went back & re-watched BB S2 Ep8 where Saul is introduced. What really struck me is how similar the Lalo / Kim scene was to the Saul / Walter scene in the classroom. In that case, Saul ridicules Walter's business approach & suggests he (Saul) could do a better job. Very much like the Lalo / Kim scene.

s7ryf3925pivug · 22-04-2020 11:44am

ZV Yoda wrote: »

I agree with the general sentiment that this episode didn't seem to do justice to the season. It was a bit of a damp squib.

Do you mean a Kim / Lalo wedding? Lalo was definitely impressed by Kim when she told him at gunpoint how he should be running his business. Likewise, it's easy to see how she could be attracted to the danger & excitement of Lalo & the cartel. It's not implausible that she could work for the cartel making big bucks... while also doing her pro bono work. Lalo would even get a perverse kick of that.

I'm not sure if a romantic relationship really will develop between Kim & Lalo... but I could definitely see how a mutually beneficial business arrangement could happen.... especially if Saul gets involved in some new scam that pushes Kim away in the final season.

After I watched the finale last night, I went back & re-watched BB S2 Ep8 where Saul is introduced. What really struck me is how similar the Lalo / Kim scene was to the Saul / Walter scene in the classroom. In that case, Saul ridicules Walter's business approach & suggests he (Saul) could do a better job. Very much like the Lalo / Kim scene.

Probably why she marrries him so.

s7ryf3925pivug · 22-04-2020 11:51am

I really liked the episode. First action that was tense and believable instead of cartoonlike and absurd.

Lalo making use of the passage and knowing the layout of his home to take out the hit squad was believable. Mike's appearance out of the blue as a crack sniper was not and neither was Nacho's ninjalike recovery of the drugs earlier on.

Also Lalo not having much need for sleep suggests he is a maniac in the clinical sense of the word, which is completely in keeping with his behaviour throughout. He's an evil bastard but his positivity makes me root for him when contrasted with the dour nature of the rest of the main characters.

I get that you could be frustrated by the lack of resolution with things with Kim when that seemed like it was coming to a head. She's pretty much a dramatic necessity for the show though because Saul doesn't have anyone else to confide in. So it's either draw out that storyline or have him doing House of Cards monologues or True Romance hallucinations. Always going to be a certain amount of trying to hook people for the next season too.

scamalert · 22-04-2020 12:15pm

Lyra Gifted Chest wrote: »

I really liked the episode. First action that was tense and believable instead of cartoonlike and absurd.
Lalo making use of the passage and knowing the layout of his home to take out the hit squad was believable. Mike's appearance out of the blue as a crack sniper was not and neither was Nacho's ninjalike recovery of the drugs earlier on.

Also Lalo not having much need for sleep suggests he is a maniac in the clinical sense of the word, which is completely in keeping with his behaviour throughout. He's an evil bastard but his positivity makes me root for him when contrasted with the dour nature of the rest of the main characters.

I get that you could be frustrated by the lack of resolution with things with Kim when that seemed like it was coming to a head. She's pretty much a dramatic necessity for the show though because Saul doesn't have anyone else to confide in. So it's either draw out that storyline or have him doing House of Cards monologues or True Romance hallucinations. Always going to be a certain amount of trying to hook people for the next season too.

thats the problem entire time line and story line is skewed compared to BB start.

interesting fact that Saul was supposed to be like one off for badger scene getting him arrested yet his acting got him into full show.

which puts a lot of creative side to be made, given no one imagined this show would last decade, after BB has finished, yet it still has to tie in with BB to be convincing, and the fact is that Lalo isnt in BB nor kim or Nacho, yet twins would wipe out anyone for their own, makes it less convincing that Lalo goes missing one way or another, and likes of Nacho would be suspected as masterminds to attempt such drastic measures- as he would have little to no gain.

Im all out for this show to continue as seems another 2 seasons are still possible, but in the same sense timeline would have to be few years delayed, at very least, which doesn't really suit how Saul is developed and Tuco being in the picture within year. For Saul to operate his independent business be on tv and well known in ABQ.

Martin567 · 22-04-2020 12:31pm

gary0345 wrote: »

After watching the season finali of Better call Saul I decided to watch breaking bad again and realised an overlap of the two programs.

In the first few minutes of of the first episode of BB during Walts 50th birthday party, Hank sticks on the news and he's being interviewed for putting 3 lads in cuffs and siezing about 700k, this is the same time line as better Call Saul episode s05e04 where it shows hank and gomez chasing them down

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I don't think this can be correct. It must have been another seizure Hank was looking at on tv.

If the above was true then Walt & Jesse have already started cooking meth and Krazy 8 may already be dead. Also Tuco would be coming on the scene shortly even though he is supposed to have another 11 months in prison.

Apparently the current season of BCS is still only in 2004. I know Breaking Bad was first broadcast in 2008 but did we ever know for sure that it was actually set in 2008? If it was then we are still four years away in the BCS timeline.

There is going to have to be a big jump forward at some point in Season 6.

Penn · 22-04-2020 1:35pm

Martin567 wrote: »

I don't think this can be correct. It must have been another seizure Hank was looking at on tv.

If the above was true then Walt & Jesse have already started cooking meth and Krazy 8 may already be dead. Also Tuco would be coming on the scene shortly even though he is supposed to have another 11 months in prison.

Apparently the current season of BCS is still only in 2004. I know Breaking Bad was first broadcast in 2008 but did we ever know for sure that it was actually set in 2008? If it was then we are still four years away in the BCS timeline.

There is going to have to be a big jump forward at some point in Season 6.

Yeah the party at Walt's house at the start of Breaking Bad was his 50th birthday. He has his 51st birthday early in season 5. So Tuco was either already out of prison or nearly out at the time of Walt's 50th, so BCS now is still at least 10 months before the start of Breaking Bad.

billyhead · 22-04-2020 1:49pm

Is this worth watching. I never saw Breaking Bad.

gormdubhgorm · 22-04-2020 2:04pm

leggo wrote: »

See for me it makes total sense when you consider the scene with her mother that opened one episode. When you have someone like that who’s grown up around those kind of people, I remember I heard it described as they flip a coin between trying to control/save them and just saying “**** it” in exasperation and becoming exactly like them. I think we saw Kim for the past few seasons try to save Jimmy from his worst impulses, while also occasionally saying “**** it” and dabbling in some low level cons. When she got to the crossroads of having to leave Jimmy or accept and embrace who he was, she didn’t have the heart so doubled down. Then even last week I was saying it wouldn’t surprised me if her showdown with Lalo exhilarated her.

They haven’t spelled it out but the pieces are actually all there if you look, and it also flips the narrative on its head that she’s some damsel in distress who was in danger (which is also the assumption from Howard that pushed her over the edge here). I wasn’t expecting it, I didn’t know how I felt about it in the moment, but the more I think about it the more I love Saul now trying to be the voice of reason and Kim breaking bad. Obviously the pew pew scene is confirmation of this on their end.
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I dunno I am not sure, I mean the tequila scam was based on fun. The changing of the plans for Mesa Verde with the help of Jimmy seemed to be where she drew the line for a long time. Also she tried to go the legit route with Acker and was extremely reluctant to bring in Jimmy again. Also she wanted to knock Jimmy's scam against Kevin of Mesa Verde on its head. Willing to make up the difference out of her own pocket.

The jump she has taken now seems to me to be too big of a jump to be credible.

ixoy · 22-04-2020 2:17pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

The jump she has taken now seems to me to be too big of a jump to be credible.

The videos linked above give some background to the thought process of the writers for her decision.

Vex Willems · 22-04-2020 2:22pm

billyhead wrote: »

Is this worth watching. I never saw Breaking Bad.

treat yourself, watch both!

leggo · 22-04-2020 2:27pm

Her turn wasn't in this week's episode, though. Aside from her being afraid for Jimmy's safety before he went into the desert, we haven't actually learned what Kim thinks about Jimmy's most recent activities, and anything we have learned has been approving: her saying she knows he's lying but being supportive after finding the coffee cup, sticking with him after Lalo, and they had sex after he told her he was now a 'friend of the cartel'.

Her turn was in the episode she suggested they get married, the episode that opened up with the scene of her and her mother, those two scenes bookended the episode and now we can deduce are linked. That's when she got to the crossroads and decided to double down on him, and that's very credible behaviour for someone who has an upbringing like we've learned she had. The reason it felt WTF in this episode is because they waited until now for her to show her cards, to the point that Jimmy didn't even know how she felt. We feel jarred because we're supposed to feel jarred, she should know better and this is out of character, we know this is the case because Jimmy is playing out the same confusion we have in his own facial expressions. We should also feel uneasy about the Howard plan because we know her and Jimmy don't end up together once BB kicks in. It's tragedy.

But all the pieces were there, we even reacted to them in real time in this thread just didn't know where to put them, and that's why I'm so into it because this was a direction that both makes sense and none of us predicted. As a podcast I listen to put it, the show is all about good characters going bad, Breaking Bad was the name of the original show! Yet we still fall for it every damn time they do it.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 22-04-2020 2:44pm

billyhead wrote: »

Is this worth watching. I never saw Breaking Bad.

You lucky person.

Yes. Watch it.

ixoy · 22-04-2020 3:00pm

Some excellent points made about why her turn isn't actually a turn but a credible development for her character.

How does it fit into her dedicating herself to pro bono work? Or how she felt guilty about some of the tactics she had to employ to for Mesa Verde and deliberately sabotaged them? Where does that fit into her ethical code?

s7ryf3925pivug · 22-04-2020 3:43pm

ixoy wrote: »

Some excellent points made about why her turn isn't actually a turn but a credible development for her character.

How does it fit into her dedicating herself to pro bono work? Or how she felt guilty about some of the tactics she had to employ to for Mesa Verde and deliberately sabotaged them? Where does that fit into her ethical code?

She has repressed hostility to the privileged. Definite sympathy with the people who get crushed in the gears of big organisations. Her role as an instrument of those organisations does not sit well with her.

Walter White had repressed ideas of grandeur that emerged in his transformation. Kim's is more interesting because hers are generally positive traits behind it.

ixoy · 22-04-2020 3:46pm

Lyra Gifted Chest wrote: »

She has repressed hostility to the privileged. Definite sympathy with the people who get crushed in the gears of big organisations. Her role as an instrument of those organisations does not sit well with her.

That's a good take. I still do try and wonder how does she then support Jimmy working for the cartel? Primarily the cartels work by exploiting the poor into drug addiction and crime. In her viewpoint, should the Salamancas not be worse than Masa Verde or HMM could ever be? Or, as she alluded to, do the ends justify the means - better they get the money to use to some good cause than the cartel squander it.

s7ryf3925pivug · 22-04-2020 4:22pm

ixoy wrote: »

That's a good take. I still do try and wonder how does she then support Jimmy working for the cartel? Primarily the cartels work by exploiting the poor into drug addiction and crime. In her viewpoint, should the Salamancas not be worse than Masa Verde or HMM could ever be? Or, as she alluded to, do the ends justify the means - better they get the money to use to some good cause than the cartel squander it.

I think she's a bit overwhelmed trying to deal with all the mental **** he's bringing her way. If she gets a chance to take a step back she might reconsider.

Or maybe it's a bit like when you watch half of a terrible film and you decide to watch it to the end, even though you aren't enjoying it, just because you've already invested time into it. Jimmy and Howard suggesting she might be better off cutting ties looks like it just made her dig her heels in.

Or maybe he's just brought out a maternal instinct. He is a bit of a tragic figure, and kinda excitable, gets carried away with his ideas.

But yeah she'll eventually leave if he voluntarily maintains a relationship with the salamancas though

El Duda · 22-04-2020 5:53pm

Did anyone notice the Breaking Bad theme over the end credits?

I think it's a hint that next seasons timeline runs parallel with BB.

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