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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #602
    ongarite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭ongarite


    hmmm wrote: »
    Very few of our infections can be traced to Cheltenham, and that area has the lowest percentage of cases in the UK.

    So can we stop going out about it now in a search for scapegoats?

    Much more of our cases can be traced to holidays abroad, and most of them were just families doing what they do every year not realising the risk.

    Incorrect, the NHS health regions surrounding Chelthanham have the highest concentration of active cases.

    https://twitter.com/aut_omnia/status/1251451703628574720

    Very long & detailed twitter thread breaking all the figures down


  • #603
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Bhlahh ... gubbernent should have done this ....and then this wouldn't happen .... bhlraggh sheeple ... bhlarrgh fcuckin bhlargghhhhh ... blaaaaa Simon Harris... bllllllaaarg

    STFU.

    We're doing relatively okay.


  • #604
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    everyone maybe pause for a moment. The numbers may have been a shock to us here on boards even if we understand the somewhats behind them. think of those still in nursing and care homes who may have heard the same news.
    Me and my cat just rang my 90+ year old friend to gently chat to to make sure he was ok as possible. And let him talk to my cat who he used to catsit for who is the same age to cheer him up.
    maybe anyone here who has an older relative or friend might do so this eveing. thanks


  • #605
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭poppers


    keynes wrote: »
    Disgracefully, Harris refused to meet with nursing home reps until end of March. Meanwhile, Holohan was saying there was no need to restrict movements into nursing homes. This has been a public policy catastrophe

    Is there a breakdown of the numbers between private and public nursing homes.
    Nursing homes stayed closed but they still hired agency staff on a daily basis instead contracting people full time.
    Private nursing home were a disaster waiting to happen since before covid 19 (im basing this on stories from friends who had parents in theses homes and were not happy with how things were being run).
    While the gov prob could have done more Alot of them are just in it for the money and are now passing the buck to the gov.


  • #606
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    ongarite wrote: »
    Incorrect, the NHS health regions surrounding Chelthanham have the highest concentration of active cases.

    https://twitter.com/aut_omnia/status/1251451703628574720

    Very long & detailed twitter thread breaking all the figures down

    Minister was questioned by Liverpool Echo on this today in UK briefing and she said at the time this went ahead the advice from the experts was that it wouldn't pose any significant risk!!!!! Same old story. Prob owned a couple of horses there


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  • #607
    bloodless_coup
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    I think the numbers show it's time to open up the country again. Can't be paying people to sit on thier holes watching telly forever.


  • #608
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Many people I speak to think the figures they give are the actual deaths that occurred today . So 77 is the figure we hear but it’s actually 39 deaths occurred today and 77 are the reported deaths today ?
    Am I right ?

    Most people are not understanding that there is a reduction due to the figures given on the news


  • #609
    bettyoleary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭bettyoleary


    speckle wrote: »
    everyone maybe pause for a moment. The numbers may have been a shock to us here on boards even if we understand the somewhats behind them. think of those still in nursing and care homes who may have heard the same news.
    Me and my cat just rang my 90+ year old friend to gently chat to to make sure he was ok as possible. And let him talk to my cat who he used to catsit for who is the same age to cheer him up.
    maybe anyone here who has an older relative or friend might do so this eveing. thanks

    That's a good idea but perhaps they might be working to save the people of their country somewhere if not we should do that.;)Not wondering when the pubs can reopen so they can study the graphs over a pint and thank god its not them. Its terrifying for everyone but especially for older people now.


  • #610
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,206 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    overkill602 wrote: »
    as someone who has acted responsibly it doesn't feel like we are getting anywhere just being told how it could be much worse big sacrifices by some maybe ports and still open wrong only to truck and freight more lockdown appetite fading

    We have posters on here desperate to see the pubs open, think they will be on a foreign holiday in June and want hairdressers open.

    People can say what they want about nursing home this and that but the fact is this will kill old people primarily and it spreads like wildfire. There is only so much can be done.

    Just today there was a poster saying "the lock down ends on the 5th of May".

    We are in the middle of a crisis, we have 401 new cases today in spite of the measures.

    A lot of people acted the bollix over the easter bank holiday weekend and that should be mentioned more - the invoice for that is yet to come in, in new cases.

    Maybe it's time politicians stopped patting people on the head and started telling everyone to get real.

    Disappointing and the more it goes on the more I feel the measures have not really been tough enough.


  • #611
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Bhlahh ... gubbernent should have done this ....and then this wouldn't happen .... bhlraggh sheeple ... bhlarrgh fcuckin bhlargghhhhh ... blaaaaa Simon Harris... bllllllaaarg

    STFU.

    We're doing relatively okay.

    You mean I'm doing ok, the people in nursing homes are not.


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  • #612
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    https://twitter.com/alfonslopeztena/status/1252294705259450369?s=21


  • #613
    Just Saying
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    Maybe it's been highlighted already but only 1 of todays 77 deaths occured in a hospital which is remarkable.It is possible that this is an error in the briefing but it caused me to look at the recent numbers of hospital deaths

    The hospital deaths for the last 5 days are

    Thursday 14
    Friday 18
    Saturday 14
    Sunday 17
    Monday 1

    This indicates that the spread of the virus in the community is under control but we need to redirect all our resources at the nursing home/residential care sector.


  • #614
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,218 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    :confused:

    Yes world vaccine immunisation week from today
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  • #615
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    We have posters on here desperate to see the pubs open, think they will be on a foreign holiday in June and want hairdressers open.

    People can say what they want about nursing home this and that but the fact is this will kill old people primarily and it spreads like wildfire. There is only so much can be done.

    Just today there was a poster saying "the lock down ends on the 5th of May".

    We are in the middle of a crisis, we have 401 new cases today in spite of the measures.

    A lot of people acted the bollix over the easter bank holiday weekend and that should be mentioned more - the invoice for that is yet to come in, in new cases.

    Maybe it's time politicians stopped patting people on the head and started telling everyone to get real.

    Disappointing and the more it goes on the more I feel the measures have not really been tough enough.


    Agree
    Not only the measures weren't strict enough, people got really sloppy with them after a couple of weeks. If anything we may be seeing an increase in daily cases in a while. It happened to other countries too, after the initial decrease there was another leg up until eventually people got the message and stayed home


  • #616
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    So looking at that graph, whatever case may be made for an easing of the restrictions in many parts of the country after 5th May, I think Dublin and surrounding counties will have to remain with current restrictions in place for at least another few weeks after that date. Even taking into account the population difference the contrast in reported deaths between the East and the rest of the country is literally off the scale.


    What if all the Dublin deaths were in nursing homes and all the ones outside Dublin were in the community outside homes?

    I think you need a more nuanced look at figures before any moves are made.


  • #617
    timsey tiger
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Many people I speak to think the figures they give are the actual deaths that occurred today . So 77 is the figure we hear but it’s actually 39 deaths occurred today and 77 are the reported deaths today ?
    Am I right ?

    Most people are not understanding that there is a reduction due to the figures given on the news

    No you're are wrong we don't know how many died today. We can say at least 39 died today, but have to wait for the final number as many may not be reported for some time.


  • #618
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Disappointing and the more it goes on the more I feel the measures have not really been tough enough.
    Our measures have worked, the number of new cases is decreasing - we can tell this through our ICU stats.

    Every new restriction infringes on people, and should only be imposed if absolutely necessary - we are not a police state.

    If the number of cases continue to fall, we should be looking to lift some of the restrictions. But not to the extent that some people think, probably fairly minor stuff - e.g. lifting the 2k limit.


  • #619
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    You mean I'm doing ok, the people in nursing homes are not.

    Wot about the pubs opening on 5 May. I seen on what app.


  • #620
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    No you're are wrong we don't know how many died today. We can say at least 39 died today, but have to wait for the final number as many may not be reported for some time.

    Ok thank you . It confuses me and many others as it isn’t clear when they say 77 deaths that it’s not todays numbers


  • #621
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    We have posters on here desperate to see the pubs open, think they will be on a foreign holiday in June and want hairdressers open.

    People can say what they want about nursing home this and that but the fact is this will kill old people primarily and it spreads like wildfire. There is only so much can be done.

    Just today there was a poster saying "the lock down ends on the 5th of May".

    We are in the middle of a crisis, we have 401 new cases today in spite of the measures.

    A lot of people acted the bollix over the easter bank holiday weekend and that should be mentioned more - the invoice for that is yet to come in, in new cases.

    Maybe it's time politicians stopped patting people on the head and started telling everyone to get real.

    Disappointing and the more it goes on the more I feel the measures have not really been tough enough.

    The current measures would be sufficient if everyone observed them and those who don`t were strictly penalised. Unfortunately after a promising start that has fallen off in the last week or so and, as you have stated, is why the rate of new cases/ICU hospitalisations/deaths is going to be much higher than it would be otherwise.


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  • #622
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    hmmm wrote: »
    Our measures have worked, the number of new cases is decreasing - we can tell this through our ICU stats.


    That's just nonsense, you dont need to look at the ICU stats to understand the new cases trend, you look at the new cases stats which are available


  • #623
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Ireland is now almost in the top 10 of countries when looking at total cases per 1 million population, which I would say is the main indicator of how exactly a country is handling things. Worse than China, USA, Italy, France, you name it. What the hell is going on? Yet this is completely being ignored by the media. This is a total collapse and widespread failure of everyone involved.


  • #624
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Yes world vaccine immunisation week from today

    bulgaria have it alrdy .seen on Facebook.


  • #625
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    We have posters on here desperate to see the pubs open, think they will be on a foreign holiday in June and want hairdressers open.

    People can say what they want about nursing home this and that but the fact is this will kill old people primarily and it spreads like wildfire. There is only so much can be done.

    Just today there was a poster saying "the lock down ends on the 5th of May".

    We are in the middle of a crisis, we have 401 new cases today in spite of the measures.

    A lot of people acted the bollix over the easter bank holiday weekend and that should be mentioned more - the invoice for that is yet to come in, in new cases.

    Maybe it's time politicians stopped patting people on the head and started telling everyone to get real.

    Disappointing and the more it goes on the more I feel the measures have not really been tough enough.

    We are doing well. No need for constant scaremongering.

    The number of new cases is falling. I hope its all tightly traced around the contacts of known clusters and not the wider community.

    Very few people acted the bollix over Easter, no need to go tarring everybody.


  • #626
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    The current measures would be sufficient if everyone observed them and those who don`t were strictly penalised. Unfortunately after a promising start that has fallen off in the last week or so and, as you have stated, is why the rate of new cases/ICU hospitalisations/deaths is going to be much higher than it would be otherwise.

    86 thousand i seen on viber


  • #627
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Some of the economy merchant posters here like easypees, greenleaves etc don't think much of the weak and vulnerable.

    Stop your lying.


  • #628
    [Deleted User]
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    The_Brood wrote: »
    Ireland is now almost in the top 10 of countries when looking at total cases per 1 million population, which I would say is the main indicator of how exactly a country is handling things. Worse than China, USA, Italy, France, you name it. What the hell is going on? Yet this is completely being ignored by the media. This is a total collapse and widespread failure of everyone involved.

    And how many of those countries are counting nursing homes?


  • #629
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    coastwatch wrote: »
    Another stat from today's briefing, of the covid confirmed deaths to date, 605 have been people from either nursing homes or long term residental care homes, thats 88% of all covid confirmed deaths.


    Trying to get to grips with this. Up to yesterday the line was that 52% of deaths occurred in residential settings. Looking at the press conference

    3:41 In the woman gave the numbers:


    https://www.pscp.tv/rtenews/1rmxPAQMoEZKN


    406 deaths In Long Term Residential Settings of which 337 occurred in nursing homes.


    The numbers break down as LTRC - Lab Confirmed 327 and 77 suspected giving 406 in total.


    Nursing Homes 276 Confirmed plus 61 suspected giving 337 in total.
    As I understand it the Nursing Home numbers are part of the LTRC totals.


    This means the percentage is 59% not 88%.



    Still really shocking.


  • #630
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    easypazz wrote: »
    We are doing well. No need for constant scaremongering.

    The number of new cases is falling. I hope its all tightly traced around the contacts of known clusters and not the wider community.

    Very few people acted the bollix over Easter, no need to go tarring everybody.

    Do you know how many people are not following the restrictions for you to say that it was only very few? I went out once in the last 7 days just for shopping in LIDL and it was madness, just that one day in one single shop. There have been similar reports from other people in different days and different shops, that's a lot. Then you get kids playing in parks and so on
    The number are still high and we are already behaving like it's over


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  • #631
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭growleaves


    The_Brood wrote: »
    Ireland is now almost in the top 10 of countries when looking at total cases per 1 million population, which I would say is the main indicator of how exactly a country is handling things. Worse than China, USA, Italy, France, you name it. What the hell is going on? Yet this is completely being ignored by the media. This is a total collapse and widespread failure of everyone involved.

    I've never such an insistence on direct cause-and-effect for complex medical phenomena.

    Is every case of coronavirus directly attributable to political and social policies, their timing and implementation?


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