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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #392
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    risteard7 wrote: »
    No figures but it's fairly obvious, do you watch the news? Or read?
    So that's a "no" then.


  • #393
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Looked like there was a big death spike last week and barely any deaths over the weekend.


  • #394
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Total deaths 687.

    Care home and nursing home lab confirmed deaths 605. Wow.

    Suspect care home and nursing home deaths not confirmed 138.


  • #395
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    hmmm wrote: »
    We are doing well. It's unfortunate that we are seeing the disease in vulnerable indoor populations, but every country is having the same problem in nursing homes, mental institutions, hospitals, jails etc. The real number of new infections is dropping, and the evidence for this is the ICU numbers are decreasing.

    You can't compare numbers across countries. The UK figures are nonsense, as are the US. Italy was under-counting deaths significantly, as were the French.

    No, we are not doing well by any metric. I have not compared us to other countries anywhere in my posts so your spiel about this is irrelevant. We don’t need to be compared to other countries; our numbers are bad in their own right. No comparison is needed to see that.


  • #396
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Inappropriate.


    https://twitter.com/denisoleary/status/1252283614148124676


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  • #397
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Zara King laughing during her reporting of the Covid 19 cases on Virgin 3, asking purely idiotic questions all week too.Need more professional reporters working on this not some naive reporter

    I clocked that too , came across as pretty unprofessional.


  • #398
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Tony's graphs showing that deaths have fallen considerably in the last two or three days
    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Looked like there was a big death spike last week and barely any deaths over the weekend.

    Excellent news, and with falling new cases and ICU numbers, all the key indicators are looking good.


  • #399
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Surely VM have someone better than her?


  • #400
    Peanut Butter Jelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭Peanut Butter Jelly


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Looked like there was a big death spike last week and barely any deaths over the weekend.

    Worth noting that there's probably deaths that haven't yet been reported that occurred over the weekend


  • #401
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Fcuk your Sinn Fein and your "call for a revolution" and blah something or other democracy parties.

    Bunch of eejits.

    I don't want anybody except the current educated, sane and temperate leaders we have.


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  • #402
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,413 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Total deaths 687.

    Care home and nursing home lab confirmed deaths 605. Wow.

    Suspect care home and nursing home deaths not confirmed 138.

    I believe a lot of these would have died in hospital though, not in the actual nursing homes


  • #403
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Looked like there was a big death spike last week and barely any deaths over the weekend.

    "Barely any deaths", good grief. I know you're trying to play down today's official figure but this borders on callous.


  • #404
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I can't believe people give out about George Lee here after listening to this one.

    "This is still really serious for the people involved."


  • #405
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Arghus wrote: »
    I still can't get over how dumb that vaccine question was. Jesus Christ, talk about being on top of your brief.

    Surreal stuff, how can a journalist covering this be so uninformed ?


  • #406
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »
    Worth noting that there's probably deaths that haven't yet been reported that occurred over the weekend
    It includes presumptive COVID deaths.


  • #407
    Michael Dwyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Tony's graphs showing that deaths have fallen considerably in the last two or three days

    Tony had a lovely graph last Thursday too!


  • #408
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    rm212 wrote: »
    No, we are not doing well by any metric. I have not compared us to other countries anywhere in my posts so your spiel about this is irrelevant. We don’t need to be compared to other countries; our numbers are bad in their own right. No comparison is needed to see that.
    If you don't compare us to others, how do you know if we are doing better or worse?

    There is a dangerous virus in circulation. Perhaps 4 to 5% of the population of the world died in 1918, and the scientists are suggesting this could be similar if left get out of control. So while 77 deaths are shocking, we could be seeing hundreds and even higher if the worst case predictions were happening.


  • #409
    bennyl10
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    easypazz wrote: »
    Dead right. Bring in Mary Lou and Louise O'Reilly.

    What Ms ‘we won the popular vote so we should be in Government’ O’reilly?
    Last thing we need. If they can’t grasp the simplicity of our election system I wouldn’t trust them with a global pandemic.

    Caretaker government has done a very good job, following medical advice. They can’t do anymore.


  • #410
    risteard7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭risteard7


    hmmm wrote: »
    So that's a "no" then.

    Have a look at the Nursing home figures yourself & get back to me. HSE v Private


  • #411
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    "Barely any deaths", good grief. I know you're trying to play down today's official death toll but this borders on callous.

    It’s a crazy comment, 39 and 41 deaths were reported over the weekend, among our highest reported tallies before today’s


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  • #412
    Cork Boy 53
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    easypazz wrote: »
    Number of new cases is falling.

    ICU numbers are improving.

    Those are the ones to watch, and they are moving in the right direction.

    Would you ever cop on to yourself and wake up and smell the coffee? 77 new deaths by far the highest daily figure announced since the virus spread to Ireland and you claim that things are moving in the right direction? FFS.


  • #413
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    FFS it's still 77 people extra people dead and our deaths are increasing
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1252285532228530183?s=20


  • #414
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Strazdas wrote: »
    I believe a lot of these would have died in hospital though, not in the actual nursing homes

    Yes, that is my reading too. Residential care related deaths. May not have passed away in care home, but in hospital as you say.


  • #415
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    rm212 wrote: »
    It’s a crazy comment, 39 and 41 deaths were reported over the weekend, among our highest reported tallies before today’s
    Are you watching the briefing? They literally just showed a graph showing the deaths per day. The 39 and 41 are notifications, not confirmed deaths per day. Likewise, they were NOTIFIED of 77 deaths today.


  • #416
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Hard to downplay that number its shocking and its the sort of number per capita that we were terrified about after seeing spain and italy.

    Over the weekend they explained that those deaths are deaths Notified in the past 24hrs not occurring, many of the deaths announced Saturday were from around 6th April. We will still be seeing high death numbers over the coming weeks given that they only seem to be getting a handle on the nursing home situation now with full on testing and everything. Imagine aswell there is a greater lag in reporting in nursing home setting rather than a hospital setting aswell.

    Apart from the deaths it really bothers me that 2 weeks away from the 5th of May that the numbers case/icu/deaths paint a very mixed picture. It is going to be a hard sell for many people that everything is going well enough to ease restrictions when fatalities /day remain so high. Most people just see numbers they dont look into in detail or analytically like many do on this thread.


  • #417
    Michael Dwyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    thecretinhop wrote: »
    shinners out in force today

    So, from somebody apolitical here, that's all you can say cretin after 77 citizens die?

    Maggie Thatcher has returned. You're an ultra Tory.


  • #418
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Would you ever cop on to yourself? 77 new deaths by far the highest daily figure announced since the virus spread to Ireland and you claim that things are moving in the right direction? FFS.
    Again, deaths lag the number of new infections by several weeks. It takes time to get infected, and then die.

    But you know that, and you're just trying to talk things down.


  • #419
    rm212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    hmmm wrote: »
    If you don't compare us to others, how do you know if we are doing better or worse?

    There is a dangerous virus in circulation. Perhaps 4 to 5% of the population of the world died in 1918, and the scientists are suggesting this could be similar if left get out of control. So while 77 deaths are shocking, we could be seeing hundreds and even higher if the worst case predictions were happening.

    Would you believe that you can actually compare death stats for an average day in the country pre-coronavirus, to now? 77 deaths from coronavirus would be almost an entire day of normal deaths in this country extra, on top of the usual deaths from other factors. Of course we could be seeing worse, but still people will think the lockdown is unnecessary with this.


  • #420
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    hmmm wrote: »
    You can't compare numbers across countries. The UK figures are nonsense, as are the US. Italy was under-counting deaths significantly, as were the French.

    :rolleyes:

    According to some of you guys around here, every other country in the world (except Ireland) has unreliable numbers! lol

    The truth is, you certainly can compare countries... and our little Island is not comparing too favourably right now. We're not doing very well, our death total is very high for a country of our small population.

    You can bend and contort the stats any way you please, but there is no hiding from the fact that we are not handling this very well. We're struggling and too many of our citizens are sadly dying as a result.


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  • #421
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,155 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    hmmm wrote: »
    Have you figures that prove private nursing homes are doing worse than public homes? Or are you just using this for a political agenda?

    It seems clear from three towns in this county that it's the Private Nursing Homes that have the problem. Three different private centres have had multiple Covid deaths while none in the two HSE centres.


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