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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #332
    Quantum Erasure
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    That will include deaths from Friday Saturday and yesterday


  • #333
    ninebeanrows
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    road_high wrote: »
    Anyone got comments on today’s figures? Why are they still so high?

    It's Monday. The peak of the virus was about 2 weeks ago, the lag to death is about 2 weeks, the lag to reporting the death can be a few days.

    RIP to all the souls lost.


  • #334
    SleetAndSnow
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    That’s a big jump, some of them are from a few days ago I would say. Regardless shocking :(


  • #335
    Wombatman
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    road_high wrote: »
    Anyone got comments on today’s figures? Why are they still so high?

    I would imagine the situation in care and nursing homes has a lot to do with it.


  • #336
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Must remember this figure of 77 is not from last 24 hours, those deaths could have been spread over a number of days.


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  • #337
    Strazdas
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    road_high wrote: »
    Anyone got comments on today’s figures? Why are they still so high?

    They didn't all happen on one day and may include a weekend backlog of reporting

    It's a horrendous total though


  • #338
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Michael Dwyer wrote: »
    That gym goers are fitter that runners etc. Most do low intensity exercise in gyms. Catching breath while on their mobile. I frequent gyms and train outdoors.

    That wasnt what I said though


  • #339
    madcabbage
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    road_high wrote: »
    Anyone got comments on today’s figures? Why are they still so high?

    Gotta look back two weeks or more for these deaths from when the cases were originally picked up. Sadly it'll probably be more in time based on the current daily case numbers. :(


  • #340
    stephenjmcd
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    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    That will include deaths from Friday Saturday and yesterday

    And any other dead that they've only been notified of today that is now covid related.


  • #341
    rm212
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    easypazz wrote: »
    That is the one to watch.

    Really? Because when the case numbers were bad I’m pretty sure you were going on about how you can’t make any insight into case numbers because it all depends on how many had been tested in total in the last 24 hours? Now, when the deaths are by far the worst figure we’ve seen so far, cases are being called “the one to watch”. When will people realise we’re not doing all that well right now...


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  • #342
    ACitizenErased
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    Surely someone will be held accountable for this nursing home scandal? A lot of good was done but it's criminal how nursing homes have been devastated.


  • #343
    Xertz
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    That’s quite a spike. I would doubt they’d just release a figure like that without explanatory notes if there’s something odd about it like aggregation of an unusual number of reports.

    Since they ain’t, I assume it’s an actual spike.


  • #344
    Mic 1972
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Christ almighty, RIP.

    401 new cases.


    another big increase, less then yesterday but still the equivalent of 5K new cases in UK


  • #345
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    another big increase, less then yesterday but still the equivalent of 5K new cases in UK
    You literally cannot compare countries. Don't know how many times that has been said.


  • #346
    bennyl10
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    road_high wrote: »
    Anyone got comments on today’s figures? Why are they still so high?

    Deaths are going to stay high for a while
    New cases are dropping those presenting at hospitals and ICU are dropping

    This is a process and gradual drop that we’re going to see


  • #347
    Michael Dwyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    easypazz wrote: »
    That is the one to watch.

    A lot of people would love to tell you where to go. Have a bit of respect.

    When cases are 500 again tmrw you'll have some more bull.


  • #348
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Have you got a source to verify this?
    It's common knowledge that it's not a 24 hour figure.


  • #349
    Westernyelp
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    I imagine those 77 are actually spread over a few days. Not that it matters to those families.
    The general trend in cases seems to be going down


  • #350
    Mic 1972
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    rm212 wrote: »
    Really? Because when the case numbers were bad I’m pretty sure you were going on about how you can’t make any insight into case numbers because it all depends on how many had been tested in total in the last 24 hours? Now, when the deaths are by far the worst figure we’ve seen so far, cases are being called “the one to watch”. When will people realise we’re not doing all that well right now...


    Thanks for pointing it out, I'm not the only one then who noticed that
    He spins the stats all over the place, zero understanding of data


  • #351
    tony1980
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    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    Or a lake even

    Not confident enough to swim in a lake but thanks


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  • #352
    harr
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    Something went seriously wrong with care and nursing homes , surely the owners / management of nursing home will have or take some responsibility as well as the government. large care home near me and nearly a 1/4 of all residents have it ... not only they are running out of staff as a huge number of care assistants are in quarantine and currently running on a skeleton staff even though HSE has promised extra staff.
    Some staff currently working 24 hours on and off cycle..


  • #353
    Cork Boy 53
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    77 new deaths is a shockingly high figure no matter how much the deniers might want to play it down. How many of those are from nursing homes or day care centres?


  • #354
    hmmm
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    road_high wrote: »
    Anyone got comments on today’s figures? Why are they still so high?
    Deaths are a lagging indicator, and will peak around 2/3 weeks after the highest number of cases. It takes time from first getting the disease to dying.

    Unfortunately things can be getting better even while deaths are increasing.


  • #355
    Spanish Eyes
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    God it’s very sad and depressing. So many families devastated.

    I’m finding it hard to stay positive now, it’s like looking into an eternity of bad news.

    But have to hold out..


  • #356
    bennyl10
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Have you got a source to verify this?

    Because it is very weekend
    Rte say so every weekend

    Some places don’t Report deaths at weekends


  • #357
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Here comes Tony.


  • #358
    Fr_Dougal
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    RIP.


  • #359
    Xertz
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Surely someone will be held accountable for this nursing home scandal? A lot of good was done but it's criminal how nursing homes have been devastated.

    It’s a mess but it’s also one that’s played out in the U.K., US, Spain, many countries you wouldn’t expect in Northern Europe. Even France surprised me.

    Something went horribly wrong in nursing homes / congregated care generally.

    I’m not saying our elderly care is wonderful. It certainly isn’t but this pattern is repeating across pretty much all comparable countries.

    Also I think the critique of the government over estimating the scale of the surge is a bit unfair and also repeated elsewhere. They had no option and coils only really base it on what was happening in Italy and Spain. If we had under prepared you’d have had massive problems too

    It seems to me we are going to start damning everyone with the benefit of hindsight and immediately trying to find targets to scapegoat.

    Our health system has had problems for decades and decades. It’s nothing new. I don’t really see why we keep pinning the whole issue on one minister.

    Frankly, it seems have performed far better than I was expecting it to. I was really worried we would just end up with a total hospital meltdown and thankfully that did not happen because all the stops and blocks are pulled out.

    I’m no fan of FG but I’m also not really seeing how we are doing to sort the healthcare system long term without massive reform and brining everyone on board with that.

    All of the Irish political parties seem to want to achieve universal cover and better services. The problems have been systemic and chronic structural issues more than political in my view anyway.


  • #360
    Mic 1972
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    You literally cannot compare countries. Don't know how many times that has been said.


    of course you can, that's a silly statement you picked up in here most likely


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  • #361
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    of course you can, that's a silly statement you picked up in here most likely
    No you can't. You can't compare death figures because they're counted differently in each country. You can't compare cases because every country tests differently. Our testing numbers are miles (and I mean miles) ahead of the UK.


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