Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Widdensushi · 19-04-2020 08:19AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Jesus.
A sniper wouldn't take her out.

want to see a birth certificate if she is claiming to be in her thirties, feck sake, who would

Lillyfae · 19-04-2020 08:29AM

Gynoid wrote: »

I find it interesting to hear from other places like Vietnam, about what is going on. And teaching English as a foreign language is as good a work as any other. Might do it meself some day. It would be interesting to get regular reports from anywhere, Spain, Italy, France, Brazil, Ecuador, Iceland, Sweden, India, Africa, anywhere. And masks protect people. They are an ancient and instinctive mechanism for protection.

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Not only reports, but in the debates about relaxation of restrictions travel is going to be key, and allowing international travel from countries such as the UK and USA is a major consideration.

What Brazil are doing is going to be interesting also.

Agreed, but I could think of more reliable sources than a dude holed up in a two bedroom apartment with a laptop and no more access to information than you or I.

Kermit.de.frog · 19-04-2020 08:31AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Extraordinary

For the US as a whole

crossman47 · 19-04-2020 08:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

How is it ripping through the nursing homes, infecting all residents, even with trained professional medical staff carrying it in; and not wiping out Lidl, Tesco, Aldi, Supervalue, Luas commuters, and much more?

The only reason I can think of is that it HAS already infected the supermarkets, and a large portion of the population, but hasn't caused them to go down sick.

There is no lightening rod vector striking the nursing homes.

People blame the staff but that's rubbish because the virus has struck everywhere.

It's just that the nursing homes are full of people who are unable to fight it off.

I think its that plus the fact staff have to be in close personal contact with patients for dressing, washing, etc

Gynoid · 19-04-2020 08:33AM

Lillyfae wrote: »

Agreed, but I could think of more reliable sources than a dude holed up in a two bedroom apartment with a laptop and no more access to information than you or I.

We are all just dudes or dudettes holed up in houses or apartments, except for the odd doctor or nurse on here, and even they disagree sometimes and can only report on their personal experiences.
Anyways what the heck are reliable sources these days? Giving up believing in newspapers happened for me around the same time I learned the horrible truth about Santy

lawred2 · 19-04-2020 08:36AM

Discodog wrote: »

Meanwhile in the UK :pac:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/camper-van-escort-still-seeing-21888849

that's no life

lawrencesummers · 19-04-2020 08:38AM

Be right back wrote: »

And she says she is in her 30s! What a life to lead.

And she’s earning up to £5000 a week.

Gynoid · 19-04-2020 08:39AM

lawred2 wrote: »

that's no life

It is gruesome. For her. But also for the clients who are basically just....ugh too disgusting to conjure up images.

lawred2 · 19-04-2020 08:39AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

And she’s earning up to £5000 a week.

wonder does she pay NI and Income Tax!

lawrencesummers · 19-04-2020 08:41AM

Lillyfae wrote: »

Agreed, but I could think of more reliable sources than a dude holed up in a two bedroom apartment with a laptop and no more access to information than you or I.

It’s always good to get both sides, because both can have a skewed version of events.

lawrencesummers · 19-04-2020 08:41AM

lawred2 wrote: »

wonder does she pay NI and Income Tax!

pun intended I presume

Akrasia · 19-04-2020 08:53AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

All our cases initially stemmed from travel abroad. We don't have wet markets here so none started here.

It just demonstrates the damage a relatively small number of imported cases can do.

Close contact likely means family or workplace. We need to do better on family transmission. And consider isolating positives outside the home.

Community means untraceable.

What, like lock them in the shed?

By the time a family member shows symptoms or gets a positive test result back, they have already probably infected their family. Their family might not show symptoms but they should be isolating household units, not just positive individuals

ek motor · 19-04-2020 08:56AM

Good article discussing the challenges of finding a vaccine

https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-04-17/coronavirus-vaccine-ian-frazer/12146616

silverharp · 19-04-2020 09:02AM

jackboy wrote: »

There is no virus in North Korea though.

Boards need a laugh emoji along with the Thanks

lawred2 · 19-04-2020 09:02AM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

pun intended I presume

gross...

Timberrrrrrrr · 19-04-2020 09:03AM

silverharp wrote: »

Boards need a laugh emoji along with the Thanks

:pac:

whisky_galore · 19-04-2020 09:04AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

want to see a birth certificate if she is claiming to be in her thirties, feck sake, who would

Birth cert? She would need to be carbon dated.

whisky_galore · 19-04-2020 09:09AM

This clown.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-20s-arrested-after-failing-to-stop-for-gardai-at-cork-coronavirus-checkpoint-994811.html

eagle eye · 19-04-2020 09:15AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote:

No I wouldn't.

What? We would have been much better off taking measures like them. We still need to take measures to improve things. Letting anybody in here without state supervised quarantine is insane and we are letting them in.

Lillyfae wrote:

Thanks Captain Hindsight, thatâ€™s just what we need. Iâ€™m sure weâ€™re all dying for your Vietnam correspondence. But seeing as no other government or country, despite claims, have managed to contain this, I donâ€™t see how the same criticism over and over is constructive, especially when trying to put a round democracy peg into a square communist hole.

Taiwan have done a great job with strict measures, New Zealand too.

Lillyfae wrote:

There is more than Covid-19 sputum at play here. Shortage of equipment, IC beds, economic catastrophe, mental health, annihilation of society as we know it, to name a few.

This is all down to an inept government and not just the current one.
The current one take the blame for the lack of action early on and as a result have hundreds of deaths in their hands.

ek motor · 19-04-2020 09:16AM

Russia reporting 6000+ new cases today

jibber5000 · 19-04-2020 09:18AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

For the US as a whole

Yet our death rate is nearly identical to the US.

118 per million US
116 per million Ireland

The way it's portrayed by the media here we're doing a brilliant job and trump is leading them off a cliff.

All absolute nonsense of course.

Akrasia · 19-04-2020 09:18AM

ek motor wrote: »

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-no-transmission-coronavirus-tweet-was-to-appease-china-guardian-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

Good article regarding WHO's infamous "no evidence of human-to-human transmission" tweet.

Truly an incompetent and cowardly organisation.

I think the bigger issue with this WHO tweet, is the fact that so many people are so focused on a single nugget of data and using that as a stick to beat the WHO with as if it’s some kind of hive mind

There are tens of thousands of people working at the WHO, maybe 3 or 4 of those were involved in sending that tweet and they probably thought it was the right thing to say at the time, the early stages of a crisis when information was far from established.

You also have to remember that the WHO deals with many alerts of potential pandemics, the majority of them fizzle out on their own or with some interventions.

The WHO twitter feed has 50 thousand tweets. Since this outbreak has taken off in January, the vast majority of those tweets provided useful accurate information. And they have corrected the ‘no evidence of h2h transmission’ statement countless times yet people will still vilify the WHO and everyone associated with them.

It’s an organization that has flaws but is generally extremely well intentioned and exists almost solely for the betterment of mankind. The WHO led the eradication of Smallpox, it’s currently driving the control of TB, cutting TB infections in half over the last 20 years, saving 50 million lives, and it’s at the forefront of public health and vaccination programs all around the world

The anti WHO codology stems from the anti vaccine movement and other loopers with more free time than brain cells to rub together. Before you get sucked in by it, think about it first

growleaves · 19-04-2020 09:19AM

As a UK doctor put it, if you have a fever and a cough and you fall the stairs and break your neck you'll officially be classed as a coronavirus victim.

No post-mortems allowed for alleged covid victims, just add em to the stats.

zinfandel · 19-04-2020 09:19AM

ek motor wrote: »

Russia reporting 6000+ new cases today

the deaths are #fakenews though

ek motor · 19-04-2020 09:22AM

zinfandel wrote: »

the deaths are #fakenews though

How do you mean ?

Kermit.de.frog · 19-04-2020 09:22AM

growleaves wrote: »

As a UK doctor put it, if you have a fever and a cough and you fall the stairs and break your neck you'll officially be classed as a coronavirus victim.

No post-mortems allowed for alleged covid victims, just add em to the stats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DEgywU-hM

blade1 · 19-04-2020 09:22AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

This clown.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-20s-arrested-after-failing-to-stop-for-gardai-at-cork-coronavirus-checkpoint-994811.html

Looks like he stopped to me :pac:

bilston · 19-04-2020 09:23AM

Andrew00 wrote: »

How the f*ck do they not know if you get get re-infected with this virus?

Has there been anyone in Irelands who's got the virus, recovered and then got it again

I was thinking about this yesterday and I was thinking that maybe what the WHO statement on Friday meant s that it's not that they think large numbers of people will get re-infected, it's more that right now they can't prove that you can't get re-infected, probably because it's a novel virus and there isn't enough data yet.

Just how I've read it. They probably need to be quizzed by journalists a bit more on what exactly they meant

BanditLuke · 19-04-2020 09:24AM

ek motor wrote: »

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-no-transmission-coronavirus-tweet-was-to-appease-china-guardian-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

Good article regarding WHO's infamous "no evidence of human-to-human transmission" tweet.

Truly an incompetent and cowardly organisation.

Zero credit now im afraid. When we needed them most also.

zinfandel · 19-04-2020 09:26AM

ek motor wrote: »

How do you mean ?

360 deaths on 43,000 cases is hardly accurate( cases are believed to be x 10 times ) the hospitals are at capacity and not taking any more cases.

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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