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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #8492
    Iamabeliever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Hysterical nonsense without any supporting evidence.

    Never seen the streets so busy!

    My eyes couldn't roll much harder

    Now to reel it in


  • #8493
    Enter name here
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Enter name here


    Looney1 wrote: »
    Would anyone hazard a guess at what restrictions will be lifted on May 5th

    None hopefully, we are no where near ready for lifting of restrictions.


  • #8494
    moonlighting_1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭moonlighting_1


    Lot of people talkin ****e on youtube about the Coronavirus but its hard to know who to believe.
    One thing that scares me is some think this will be around for years with no cure in sight. Cant even begin
    to image what life will be like if thats the case.


  • #8495
    Michael Dwyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Well, yeah. If, in February, the HSE told you everything they knew back then, you would have shat yourself.

    Speak for yourself ;)

    What makes so many sure they're telling everything now..


  • #8496
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Danzy wrote: »
    Many very frail and elderly people die within hours of contracting it, hardly showing symptoms.

    Source?


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  • #8497
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Looney1 wrote: »
    Would anyone hazard a guess at what restrictions will be lifted on May 5th

    Guess is the operative word. Everybody's guessing. My guess would be a gradual lifting of restrictions in reverse order of how they were imposed, with social distancing and cocooning still in place.


  • #8498
    Iamabeliever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    When you exaggerate to this level your point loses all credibility,

    Please tell me which village you live in?


  • #8499
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Miike


    Enter name here wrote: »
    None hopefully, we are no where near ready for lifting of restrictions.

    I tend to agree with this sentiment. With recent reporting by HSE and DoH officials stating the R0 is at or below one, I think we should stay the course for as long as humanly imaginable. Release restrictions too early and we'll see wave 2. Wave 2 restrictions will not be as effective because of population burn out from the previous ones, it won't be taken as seriously second time around.

    On another note, I'm expecting to see a spike in cases once again in the coming 8 to 14 days from my observations of people while we had some decent weather. It's sad to see so many people carelessly flaunting around in groups . I'm not sure if they don't understand or just don't care. Both are equally sad.


  • #8500
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Probably because they are 30.

    In fairness they say that 35 is the age where you start going downhill body recovery-wise...(I'm over 35)


  • #8501
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Iamabeliever wrote: »
    Please tell me which village you live in?

    Immaterial. Do you still maintain saying you have never seen so many people about is not a gross exaggeration?


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  • #8502
    pgj2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,253 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Hysterical nonsense without any supporting evidence.

    Never seen the streets so busy!

    My eyes couldn't roll much harder


    my local town today before it got busy.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=crowded+street&rlz=1C1AWFC_enIE861IE861&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_lZb22fLoAhX0RhUIHeVXDFYQ_AUoAXoECAwQAw&biw=1280&bih=610&dpr=1.5#imgrc=0g1Uz3_6GErgcM


  • #8503
    Fiery mutant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    my local town today before it got busy.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=crowded+street&rlz=1C1AWFC_enIE861IE861&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_lZb22fLoAhX0RhUIHeVXDFYQ_AUoAXoECAwQAw&biw=1280&bih=610&dpr=1.5#imgrc=0g1Uz3_6GErgcM

    Your link brings to a google page for crowded streets! Did you just try to pass of a google search for a busy street as your own home town?

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • #8504
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,843 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Enter name here wrote: »
    None hopefully, we are no where near ready for lifting of restrictions.

    back to the conditions prior to March 27th,builders etc can resume with social distancing, hardware shops etc reopen


  • #8505
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Guess is the operative word. Everybody's guessing. My guess would be a gradual lifting of restrictions in reverse order of how they were imposed, with social distancing and cocooning still in place.

    Mainly a lift on restrictions on nonessential
    Work places to start with once they can practice social distancing , even these will only return to work on a rolling bases.


  • #8506
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Regarding the underlying condition issue, would it be fair to say no autopsies are being carried out on the dead ? ....so would it be fair to say this virus has a good chance of finding an underlying condition as yet unknown ........I'm sure many of us are walking around with something as yet undiagnosed ....I myself can't even recall the last time I was at a Doctors


  • #8507
    Panrich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Well, yeah. If, in February, the HSE told you everything they knew back then, you would have shat yourself.

    The problem is the lack of consistency in messaging that allows all sorts of ill informed speculation to thrive. In March we were being told that there would be 15,000 cases by the end of the month. The case numbers were not pointing to that being likely and so it transpired that it was wildly exaggerated.

    Now a month later the message has flipped and we're being told everything is under control and the R number is less than 1 when every day we still have huge numbers of cases and we're showing no signs of the cases/deaths decreasing after three weeks of total lockdown.


  • #8508
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Guess is the operative word. Everybody's guessing. My guess would be a gradual lifting of restrictions in reverse order of how they were imposed, with social distancing and cocooning still in place.

    I actually think DIY type places will open up and non building site tradesmen will be allow back to work, gardners/plumber/electricians etc, and see how that goes for a week or two.


  • #8509
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,382 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Iamabeliever wrote: »
    Haha well I did say, 'I never seen'. And as I live on the doorstep of Lidl, I will still stand by my (slight-overexggerated ) point

    Glad you cleared that up :)


  • #8510
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Panrich wrote: »
    The problem is the lack of consistency in messaging that allows all sorts of ill informed speculation to thrive. In March we were being told that there would be 15,000 cases by the end of the month. The case numbers were not pointing to that being likely and so it transpired that it was wildly exaggerated.

    Now a month later the message has flipped and we're being told everything is under control and the R number is less than 1 when every day we still have huge numbers of cases and we're showing no signs of the cases/deaths decreasing after three weeks of total lockdown.

    At no point where we told that 15000 would be happening. It was described as a worst case scenario. Then doom merchants ran with it as guaranteed fact.


  • #8511
    billyhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,247 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    When do posters think the 2km rule will be relaxed?


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  • #8512
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,040 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Panrich wrote: »
    The problem is the lack of consistency in messaging that allows all sorts of ill informed speculation to thrive. In March we were being told that there would be 15,000 cases by the end of the month. The case numbers were not pointing to that being likely and so it transpired that it was wildly exaggerated.

    Now a month later the message has flipped and we're being told everything is under control and the R number is less than 1 when every day we still have huge numbers of cases and we're showing no signs of the cases/deaths decreasing after three weeks of total lockdown.

    That's because of social distancing etc. Like what message did you want to hear. UK had 1000 deaths a day from this virus -

    As a society Ireland pull together on this and results in lower infections.

    The posters on here are unbelievable at times - blame the government because we didn't have a lot of infections/deaths.

    And the same posters would have blame the government had we had 20,000 infections.

    I suspect given the response that the virus numbers are increases in nursing homes and so that's why the big effort is there. They over 2 weeks to get that under countrol, before letting letting restrictions ease a little bit.


  • #8513
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    This is an educational video of Sars and what happens with covid.

    https://youtu.be/LV8wWhjTKRU


  • #8514
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Miike


    Panrich wrote: »
    The problem is the lack of consistency in messaging that allows all sorts of ill informed speculation to thrive. In March we were being told that there would be 15,000 cases by the end of the month. The case numbers were not pointing to that being likely and so it transpired that it was wildly exaggerated.

    Now a month later the message has flipped and we're being told everything is under control and the R number is less than 1 when every day we still have huge numbers of cases and we're showing no signs of the cases/deaths decreasing after three weeks of total lockdown    .

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062246

    The growth of this virus, from the data we have at hand (I'm not interested in getting into a tinfoil hat debate), shows that we're doing a good job at keeping levels of explosive growth down. Our ICUs aren't totally overloaded and in the large we're 'coping' under the current measures. The numbers of 15k cases / day were based on the premise we do nothing at all or everyone just carried on as normal.

    Point of order: we are not on a "total lockdown".


  • #8515
    Panrich
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Christy42 wrote: »
    At no point where we told that 15000 would be happening. It was described as a worst case scenario. Then doom merchants ran with it as guaranteed fact.


    In case you'd forgotton:

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/15k-coronavirus-cases-ireland-end-month


  • #8516
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    joe_99 wrote: »
    41 new deaths recorded today

    778 additional cases confirmed:

    - 630 new cases confirmed in Irish labs.
    - 148 cases confirmed from German labs.

    RIP today's 41


  • #8517
    elperello
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,382 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    billyhead wrote: »
    When do posters think the 2km rule will be relaxed?

    I expect it may go out to 5k to accommodate what is already happening on the ground in my experience.


  • #8518
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Danzy wrote: »
    Many very frail and elderly people die within hours of contracting it, hardly showing symptoms.

    What is happening there?


  • #8519
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Looney1 wrote: »
    Would anyone hazard a guess at what restrictions will be lifted on May 5th

    Id say none given we are in a really bad place.


  • #8520
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Panrich wrote: »
    In case you'd forgotton:

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/15k-coronavirus-cases-ireland-end-month
    He was talking about the worst case scenario if we did nothing. Even in the quote it is a maybe. That was when we started locking down.


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  • #8521
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Id say none given we are in a really bad place.

    can you elaborate on really bad place? I thought things were looking reasonably positive, but I know positivity is not appreciated on here!


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