Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 18-04-2020 01:16PM

keynes wrote: »

No reason why they shouldn't. These stores have plenty of open space, much more so than supermarkets.

It's not about how much open space there is inside the store - otherwise why would small spars/centras etc still be open?

It's about having as few people moving around during the day as possible. Buying food is a necessity, buying paint for the garden fence is not essential right now. Your fence can wait until next summer to be painted. (or maybe it can't and it'll rot and fall down - but you'll never be able to eat it either way!

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JanuarySnowstor · 18-04-2020 01:17PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

UK reports 888 new deaths and 5,525 new cases

Astonishing figures with little improvement. When you consider it's just hospitals the true figure must be much higher. Yet little talk in the media of panic in hospitals which is equally surprising

eagle eye · 18-04-2020 01:19PM

walshb wrote:

The dogs on the street should know that there are several symptoms..not all need to be present..

The dogvon the street doesn't know

walshb wrote:

Hell, people testing positive with none. We all know this...

When are you going to get it that people in general only have a minimal amount of knowledge. They read the headline and maybe the first paragraph and that's usually the sensational stuff like that you won't be tested if you don't have a virus.

Notmything · 18-04-2020 01:21PM

walshb wrote: »

Agreed.

However, the onus is on everyone to be careful and responsible

I can’t see how this can be spun or defended in any way..

Thought this, thought that, maybe this, maybe that...red herrings nonsense

Nurse. Hospital setting. Risk. Awareness.

Three clear symptoms, in her words it was obvious she was unwell..

Still decided to attend work just because no fever and cough..

I would not attend work if I had the symptoms she described, and I do not work in the health field, and I’d like to think nobody would be out and about with these symptoms...

And the end result was that the nurse tested positive...so all the red herrings and deflection and but this and but that is garbage. She had three symptoms, and was positive for the virus..

Oh I'm not defending her actions, she should have assumed the worst given her job. I was just commenting on the idea that the symptoms are the same for everyone. I never had a fever but started with loss of smell and cough. Tbh I thought nothing of the loss of smell until I saw it mentioned online.

Curious_Case · 18-04-2020 01:23PM

walshb wrote: »

The dogs on the street should know that there are several symptoms

Not this one, and he's a doctor !!!!!

Inquitus · 18-04-2020 01:25PM

Tom the nigh on 100yo war Vet in the UK has raised £27.2m so far including the tax refund aspect of justgiving:

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/tomswalkforthenhs

Total raised
£22,909,417.29
+ £4,325,840.71 Gift Aid
____________________
£27,235,258.00

walshb · 18-04-2020 01:26PM

eagle eye wrote: »

The dogvon the street doesn't know

When are you going to get it that people in general only have a minimal amount of knowledge. They read the headline and maybe the first paragraph and that's usually the sensational stuff like that you won't be tested if you don't have a virus.

Eh, she’s a bloody respiratory nurse....

And I am a dog on the street and I absolutely knew it!!

You seriously saying that the general public do not know that the illness can present itself with a number of varying symptoms?

It’s the most covered news story in history this virus..

Get a grip!!

An Ciarraioch · 18-04-2020 01:26PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

UK reports 888 new deaths and 5,525 new cases

They lowered the reproductive number before we did, so shouldn't their daily figures be falling now?

wakka12 · 18-04-2020 01:28PM

Deaths in Europe will pass 100,000 this evening, likely around 125,000-140,000 in reality

Kermit.de.frog · 18-04-2020 01:29PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

They lowered the reproductive number before we did

Linky?

Princess Calla · 18-04-2020 01:30PM

Inquitus wrote: »

Tom the nigh on 100yo war Vet in the UK has raised £27.2m so far including the tax refund aspect of justgiving:

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/tomswalkforthenhs

Total raised
£22,909,417.29
+ £4,325,840.71 Gift Aid
____________________
£27,235,258.00

I think he's the best story to come out of all this.

Just goes to show the difference one person can make.

An Ciarraioch · 18-04-2020 01:31PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Linky?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-spread/preliminary-study-finds-uk-lockdown-is-slowing-spread-of-covid-19-idUSKBN21J56W

wakka12 · 18-04-2020 01:33PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

They lowered the reproductive number before we did, so shouldn't their daily figures be falling now?

Nobody knows if they did, the reproductive number is just an estimate, and also changes constantly.Its pretty much impossible that the UK lowered the reproductive number before us given their huge population density and implementation of any lockdown measures a whole week after us

keynes · 18-04-2020 01:34PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

It's not about how much open space there is inside the store - otherwise why would small spars/centras etc still be open?

It's about having as few people moving around during the day as possible. Buying food is a necessity, buying paint for the garden fence is not essential right now. Your fence can wait until next summer to be painted. (or maybe it can't and it'll rot and fall down - but you'll never be able to eat it either way! )

But in the context of opening up, these stores should be top of the list. Also, Ive noticed a lot of people going to Lidl and Aldi now for garden materials. This clutters up supermarkets unnecessarily, raising the likelihood of spread, compared to a situation where Woodies etc were open

davemckenna25 · 18-04-2020 01:42PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Anyone who has tested positive should be given a barcode after 2 weeks. This along with ID should be needed to travel. Provide the authorities with scanning software to read this barcode, let the barcode contain name, address, DOB.

Have you been watching the Hunger Games!

ek motor · 18-04-2020 01:49PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52301633

Interesting article on the duration of the illness and the post viral fatigue that can go with it.

owlbethere · 18-04-2020 01:49PM

Look at this:

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-outbreak-september-not-wuhan-1498566?fbclid=IwAR0RcXpAvVAOiLg4-ajyWKqdtFTUe_iOJ70WDcETkehqZFveTzCrjOU1g7Q

Scientists are tracing the virus and it looks as if it may not have started in wuhan and it could have began/started as early as September last.

That's incredible if true. The studying is from London.

Roger_007 · 18-04-2020 01:50PM

keynes wrote: »

But in the context of opening up, these stores should be top of the list. Also, Ive noticed a lot of people going to Lidl and Aldi now for garden materials. This clutters up supermarkets unnecessarily, raising the likelihood of spread, compared to a situation where Woodies etc were open

Asking people to stay at home and then shutting the hardware and gardening shops so that they could not get any supplies to keep them busy in the house or garden was particularly idiotic..........Almost as idiotic as warning us that this virus was particularly dangerous for the elderly and then failing to do anything to protect the nursing homes until it was too late.

Sober Crappy Chemis · 18-04-2020 01:55PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

If restrictions are lifted too quickly and people carry on the same way as they did before the virus appeared, combined with a likely second wave next autumn/winter and no effective vaccine being developed, then the death rate could very well reach those levels over the next 12 months or so.

Can almost sense your disappointment at any positivity. Chin up.

Hurrache · 18-04-2020 01:56PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

Asking people to stay at home and then shutting the hardware and gardening shops so that they could not get any supplies to keep them busy in the house or garden was particularly idiotic..........Almost as idiotic as warning us that this virus was particularly dangerous for the elderly and then failing to do anything to protect the nursing homes until it was too late.

Hey everybody, quick, panic buy at your local hardware store before we shut them all for a couple of months.

Yip, that would have been the sensible approach, get a huge rush of people from all corners to a few places.

caveat emptor · 18-04-2020 02:00PM

https://twitter.com/drzoehyde/status/1251365866412761089?s=21

jackboy · 18-04-2020 02:01PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Look at this:

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-outbreak-september-not-wuhan-1498566?fbclid=IwAR0RcXpAvVAOiLg4-ajyWKqdtFTUe_iOJ70WDcETkehqZFveTzCrjOU1g7Q

Scientists are tracing the virus and it looks as if it may not have started in wuhan and it could have began/started as early as September last.

That's incredible if true. The studying is from London.

Well the scientist estimates that the outbreak started between September and December and that his proposed timelines could be wrong as he doesn’t have enough data.

eagle eye · 18-04-2020 02:02PM

walshb wrote:

Get a grip!!

Obviously you spent too much time on your own and not enough talking to people or your understand how little the majority of people actually listen to anything that doesn't involve money or their kids.

Drumpot · 18-04-2020 02:05PM

jackboy wrote: »

Well the scientist estimates that the outbreak started between September and December and that his proposed timelines could be wrong as he doesn’t have enough data.

But it shows the folly of attacking China without definitive proof of anything.

We like to think we are more civilized but there is a thin veil separating us from our pitch fork wielding ancestors.

walshb · 18-04-2020 02:06PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Obviously you spent too much time on your own and not enough talking to people or your understand how little the majority of people actually listen to anything that doesn't involve money or their kids.

Your assertion that it is not widely known, circulated or said that the illness can prevent itself with a varying range on symptoms is ludicrous..

Of course, there are clueless people in society, but the general public are pretty much well aware of the symptoms of it, and how they present in a varying manner..

The whole area of asymptomatic carriers puts your assertion to the bin..

jackboy · 18-04-2020 02:11PM

Drumpot wrote: »

But it shows the folly of attacking China without definitive proof of anything.

We like to think we are more civilized but there is a thin veil separating us from our pitch fork wielding ancestors.

Yes. The place and time of origin has not been proven yet. It will be hard to determine though unless China behaves in an open manner that would be unusual for them.

BorneTobyWilde · 18-04-2020 02:15PM

Pubs/ Restaurants should open, but with ID needed to enter, over 35 banned from entering. It has to be the stage one of the opening approach to allow younger people back to work and to socialize . Part herd immunity has a role to play, and the sooner the better.

Seamai · 18-04-2020 02:17PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Pubs/ Restaurants should open, but with ID needed to enter, over 35 banned from entering. It has to be the stage one of the opening approach to allow younger people back to work and to socialize . Part herd immunity has a role to play, and the sooner the better.

It must be great to be young and naive.

rosiem · 18-04-2020 02:20PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Pubs/ Restaurants should open, but with ID needed to enter, over 35 banned from entering. It has to be the stage one of the opening approach to allow younger people back to work and to socialize . Part herd immunity has a role to play, and the sooner the better.

Lol funniest post I have seen in the whole Covid-19 discussion ban over 35s from pubs. You must be 34

:)

Drumpot · 18-04-2020 02:21PM

Seamai wrote: »

It must be great to be young and ignorant , self absorbed, selfish naive.

Agreed....

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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