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Rammstein Megathread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭vintagecosmos


    Makes you realise what an operation these gigs are, and where the money goes

    I'd love to see them in Belfast, but the fact the gig has to be over by 11 (I'm open to correction on this but believe I'm right) means that daylight could leave a lot of their setup not what it could be

    I saw them in summer in Copenhagen. They put out a lot of smoke which darkens the space. I thought it would be too bright for the pyro but I was wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I sure hope this coronavirus thing is under control by June...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    I sure hope this coronavirus thing is under control by June...

    The one thing it'll never be is under control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭vintagecosmos


    I sure hope this coronavirus thing is under control by June...

    hopefully all the pyro will take care of it :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    I saw yesterday that Lacuna Coil have cancelled their tour due to Coronavirus. I wouldn't be surprised if Rammstein did the same thing. I have contacted Aiken to get some clarification as those of us who have booked accommodation will need notice to cancel without incurring fees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 874 ✭✭✭devildriver


    I saw yesterday that Lacuna Coil have cancelled their tour due to Coronavirus. I wouldn't be surprised if Rammstein did the same thing. I have contacted Aiken to get some clarification as those of us who have booked accommodation will need notice to cancel without incurring fees.


    The specifics of that tour may have bearing on it though. The band are from the worst affected area in Europe and the tour was to South East Asia. With that said, who knows what the situation will be come June as it's changing minute by minute right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    With Glastonbury cancelled so it looks like a lot of the summer gigs might follow suit. I'd say we could be looking at Rammstein to be cancelled. Things will hopefully start levelling out by May/June but not sure if governments will want to risk thousands of people in one place causing spikes again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    I think we can expect a COVID-themed song from Till on the next album! It's after causing so much chaos!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Is Belfast anywhere near sold out? If they cancel the tour they know for sure what the demand is there now, might not be worth their while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Jofspring wrote: »
    With Glastonbury cancelled so it looks like a lot of the summer gigs might follow suit. I'd say we could be looking at Rammstein to be cancelled. Things will hopefully start levelling out by May/June but not sure if governments will want to risk thousands of people in one place causing spikes again.

    Unfortunately I think you're right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,162 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    depressing to think that some bands i wish to see may be retired before this blows over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    I think Rammstein will be back. I'd be hoping worst case scenario if they don't come back to Northern Ireland next year they might add a date down here or even some extra UK ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag


    Is Belfast anywhere near sold out? If they cancel the tour they know for sure what the demand is there now, might not be worth their while.

    Yeah, may move it to Dublin. Extremely selfish i know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Degag wrote: »
    Yeah, may move it to Dublin. Extremely selfish i know.

    Wouldn't be sure. Belfast was likely selected because the aviva was being used for uefa thingy. That's postponed until summer 2021 so I presume the same issue will be present then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    I'm seeing reports that Till is in intensive care with COVID-19. Hope to God he pulls through.

    On a separate note, I think we can say goodbye to the Belfast gig in June :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    I'm seeing reports that Till is in intensive care with COVID-19. Hope to God he pulls through.

    On a separate note, I think we can say goodbye to the Belfast gig in June :(

    Saw the same, Bild (ugh) reported that he was in intensive care in quarantine. He tested positive and was diagnosed with pneumonia, but they are also reporting that he is feeling better and recovering. Hope so!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I'm seeing reports that Till is in intensive care with COVID-19. Hope to God he pulls through.

    On a separate note, I think we can say goodbye to the Belfast gig in June :(

    To be honest I dont think the European tour would have gone ahead this summer.
    The German gigs are due to begin at the end of May in football stadia.
    The Bundesliga will take precedence once it resumes so the venues would not be available ,it could be July before the league is finished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    All very true. I think it's time to cancel accommodation bookings.


  • Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭Binky Bricktop


    Latest from the bands facebook page:

    "Yesterday evening Till Lindemann was admitted to a hospital on the band’s doctor’s advice. He spent the night in intensive care but has been moved as he is feeling better. Till has tested negative for the coronavirus."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭Alkers


    Latest from the bands facebook page:

    "Yesterday evening Till Lindemann was admitted to a hospital on the band’s doctor’s advice. He spent the night in intensive care but has been moved as he is feeling better. Till has tested negative for the coronavirus."

    Oh wow, I don't know if that's more or less worrying given he needed an ICU bed and tested negative


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,779 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Some people have tested positive with no symptoms, must be something else he has.

    Had accommodation booked for this and the Iron Maiden concerts, just waiting for it to be officially postponed before I cancel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    This site is generally on the ball for Rammstein related news. They are reporting that the Mayor in Ostend in Belgium has confirmed that the Rammstein concert there is being pushed back until 2021 and that he is aware that the organisers are rescheduling the whole tour:

    https://www.msl24.de/promis/rammstein-coronavirus-covid-19-europa-tour-till-lindemann-deutschland-lebensgefahr-berlin-2021-13591488.html

    The Belgian article that they are referencing is here:
    https://hetostendsnieuws.be/evenementen/rammstein-officieel-uitgesteld-tot-2021/

    Not looking good, unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,096 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    As long as it does go ahead in 2021 it's not too bad considering what's going on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Aarhus and Klagenfurt have been cancelled as well, not by the band but a government decision.

    Tourist office confirmed to me that the Ostend date is indeed cancelled and they are looking to reschedule, a shame as I love going to concerts in Belgium but also totally understandable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭Cool_CM


    Announcement on the Rammstein Facebook page today:
    Covid-19 // Rammstein Shows 2020

    Recently, several international governments have extended their bans on large-scale events. Also affected, unfortunately, are some of the dates for the 2020 Rammstein Tour.

    We are working on a solution for this difficult situation together with our partners in all the affected countries, and we hope for the understanding of those who have purchased tickets for the coming shows.

    As soon as we have precise and definitive information, we will communicate this immediately.

    Until then we ask for your understanding and patience, and we would also please request that you refrain for the time being from addressing further questions to the local event organizers, the band management, or the ticketsystems. An update will follow as soon as possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    The tour is officially cancelled now, but still no news on rescheduled dates. Have heard nothing from Ticketmaster yet either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    The tour is officially cancelled now, but still no news on rescheduled dates. Have heard nothing from Ticketmaster yet either.

    Just received my email from TM to say it is being rescheduled. 😭😭😭


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭Gavman84


    A reschedule is better at least then outright cancellation. Its a pity was really looking forward to this :(
    Trying to decide will I keep hotel and go up for the couple days still or will that be possible or will anything be open! :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 zompea


    Gutted, but at the same time relieved. Was getting concerned that UK and Irish policy would clash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Gavman84 wrote: »
    A reschedule is better at least then outright cancellation. Its a pity was really looking forward to this :(
    Trying to decide will I keep hotel and go up for the couple days still or will that be possible or will anything be open! :confused:

    Agreed but because it's stadium tour it will have to be next summer, we're not talking about kick starting the tour in August as restrictions lift.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 zompea


    The official comms

    "Due to local event restrictions related to COVID-19, which now affect almost all planned dates, the band's 2020 stadium tour can unfortunately not take place.

    We are currently checking whether it is possible to reschedule the dates and will communicate any updates as soon as possible!

    All tickets will remain valid until then.

    Thank you again for your understanding and patience."


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 zompea


    zompea wrote: »
    The official comms

    "Due to local event restrictions related to COVID-19, which now affect almost all planned dates, the band's 2020 stadium tour can unfortunately not take place.

    We are currently checking whether it is possible to reschedule the dates and will communicate any updates as soon as possible!

    All tickets will remain valid until then.

    Thank you again for your understanding and patience."

    Would suggest it's not set in stone the tour goes ahead at all tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,654 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Gavman84 wrote: »
    A reschedule is better at least then outright cancellation. Its a pity was really looking forward to this :(
    Trying to decide will I keep hotel and go up for the couple days still or will that be possible or will anything be open! :confused:

    I booked non refundable so I won't be letting that waste, assuming NI is reopened.
    Currently the hotel states its reopening on the 17th May.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭vintagecosmos


    I have a feeling they may not reschedule Belfast. It was one of the only shows not to have sold out so they may be financially better off not to run it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    I have a feeling they may not reschedule Belfast. It was one of the only shows not to have sold out so they may be financially better off not to run it...

    I was hoping they would use the opportunity to move it to Dublin, I know alot of friends who would go if it was in Dublin but aren't keen spending £100+ before expenses like accommodation are considered.

    But AFAIK the Aviva was booked already for a uefa tournament, which itself has been postponed for 12 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I have a feeling they may not reschedule Belfast. It was one of the only shows not to have sold out so they may be financially better off not to run it...

    Yes ,thats a strong possibility.
    Alot of people bought tickets in England for Belfast thinking it would be the only gig in the UK and Ireland due to the way it was announced.
    If its rescheduled ,these people will seek refunds and go to either Coventry or Cardiff.
    It was a very strange choice of venue ,Belfast is a very weak market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag


    Yes ,thats a strong possibility.
    Alot of people bought tickets in England for Belfast thinking it would be the only gig in the UK and Ireland due to the way it was announced.
    If its rescheduled ,these people will seek refunds and go to either Coventry or Cardiff.
    It was a very strange choice of venue ,Belfast is a very weak market.

    Belfast is just not desirable travel wise for me (and i imagine alot of other people here). Would be in Dublin for this in a heartbeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭vintagecosmos


    I was hoping they would use the opportunity to move it to Dublin, I know alot of friends who would go if it was in Dublin but aren't keen spending £100+ before expenses like accommodation are considered.

    But AFAIK the Aviva was booked already for a uefa tournament, which itself has been postponed for 12 months.

    As much as I love them, I couldn't see them selling out a stadium in Ireland. Would I be right in saying they didn't sell out when they played the Three Arena?

    If you are keen, I would highly recommend travelling to see them. I saw them in Berlin and Copenhagen and had a great time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    As much as I love them, I couldn't see them selling out a stadium in Ireland. Would I be right in saying they didn't sell out when they played the Three Arena?

    If you are keen, I would highly recommend travelling to see them. I saw them in Berlin and Copenhagen and had a great time.

    The gig was indeed a sellout.

    I do agree about seeing them outside the country though, I have seen them in Iceland and Luxembourg before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭vintagecosmos


    Xenji wrote: »
    The gig was indeed a sellout.

    I do agree about seeing them outside the country though, I have seen them in Iceland and Luxembourg before.

    Ah ok. I stand corrected. I was raging I missed them as I was out of the country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    As much as I love them, I couldn't see them selling out a stadium in Ireland. Would I be right in saying they didn't sell out when they played the Three Arena?

    If you are keen, I would highly recommend travelling to see them. I saw them in Berlin and Copenhagen and had a great time.

    Have done before, but I wouldn't be keen to travel and then be stuck miles from the stage in a stadium.
    Capacity of 3arena is 13,000, aviva says 65000 for concerts (probably a little less because of the size of their stage) and after much digging I found a page that lists Boucher concert capacity at 80000.

    Unfortunately this doesn't make what may happen next year any clearer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Capacity of 3arena is 13,000, aviva says 65000 for concerts (probably a little less because of the size of their stage) and after much digging I found a page that lists Boucher concert capacity at 80000.

    Unfortunately this doesn't make what may happen next year any clearer.

    They would have drawn a good crowd to the RDS I'd say ,maybe 30,000 ,that was the obvious venue for them.
    30k was probably what Aiken was aiming for in Belfast too ,its just a big field.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Lads, don't air your opinions about Belfast not being a great venue in the "Rammstein Belfast" thread. You'll be slaughtered for having an opinion :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    They would have drawn a good crowd to the RDS I'd say ,maybe 30,000 ,that was the obvious venue for them.
    30k was probably what Aiken was aiming for in Belfast too ,its just a big field.

    I can't believe that aiken would book an 80k venue with the expectation of only 30k turning up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I can't believe that aiken would book an 80k venue with the expectation of only 30k turning up.

    It doesnt hold 80K.
    Ed Sheeran sold 40K tickets there 2 years ago ,it was sold out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    It doesnt hold 80K.
    Ed Sheeran sold 40K tickets there 2 years ago ,it was sold out.

    I can't find the capacity on any official sites, this is all I could find...
    https://www.musewiki.org/Belfast_Boucher_Playing_Fields_2017_(gig)
    Not ideal I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I can't find the capacity on any official sites, this is all I could find...
    https://www.musewiki.org/Belfast_Boucher_Playing_Fields_2017_(gig)
    Not ideal I know.

    Here is an article on that same gig
    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/music/belfast-vital-numbers-final-preparations-underway-for-muse-and-tiesto-gigs-36053347.html

    60,000 people expected over both days ,Muse and DJ Tiesto ,so the capacity of 40K seems right .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,158 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    I think 40,000 at a Rammstein gig anywhere on the island is a big ask. I'd love to know how many tickets were sold for Belfast, I'd say nowhere near that amount. I too would be worried they'll decide it's not worth their while on any rescheduled tour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Here is an article on that same gig
    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/music/belfast-vital-numbers-final-preparations-underway-for-muse-and-tiesto-gigs-36053347.html

    60,000 people expected over both days ,Muse and DJ Tiesto ,so the capacity of 40K seems right .

    I'll go with that.
    Seems less than ideal for Rammstein in comparison to the capacity of other stadiums, as they have to ship everything overseas. Do they take the hit or just pass the cost on to us?
    Tbh, I would be happier with a smaller indoor show. They could do 3arena again and odyssey as well. Two shows with a fraction of the production costs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,233 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I'll go with that.
    Seems less than ideal for Rammstein in comparison to the capacity of other stadiums, as they have to ship everything overseas. Do they take the hit or just pass the cost on to us?
    Tbh, I would be happier with a smaller indoor show. They could do 3arena again and odyssey as well. Two shows with a fraction of the production costs.

    40K is similar to most of the venues they are playing .
    Milton Keynes only holds 30K ,Coventry would be similar.
    They are in Cardiff 3 days before Belfast so its not that far a journey ,they just take the ferry .

    The promoter usually pays them an agreed fee and its up to him to make a profit on the event.
    Due to the Corona Virus promoters have been looking to renegotiate deals though.


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