Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

olestoepoke · 17-04-2020 09:38AM

GarIT wrote: »

The economy doesn't matter, it's the last thing to worry about right now

This is not entirely true. Economic turmoil will kill people to and send thousands into depression so it cannot be pushed aside.

FVP3 · 17-04-2020 09:38AM

Before the modern ideology of imported cheap labour took hold, these kind of jobs helped people through college. Admittedly only working class students benefitted. You can get students to work for little if you feed them beer, bacon and cabbage and put them in a tent.

17-04-2020 09:39AM

Ballso wrote: »

Yes you. Nobody cares about your feelings. This is a non issue.

Woah - you're an angry little person

;)
You need to get out and take a few deep breaths. There is a lot of frustrated people on Boards lately

:D:D

Sofiztikated · 17-04-2020 09:39AM

GarIT wrote: »

I won't be applying unless there is a guarantee one of the people who arrived will be sent home

GarIT wrote: »

Where is my guarantee they will send someone back?

You've went from me and mammy will do it, to I won't do it unless someone gets sent home in the space of an hour.

20 minutes out working, and you'd be leaving, and that person would need to be re recruited.

It's not just the 189 that are needed. We'll need 1000's over the course of the growing season. What next? **** the strawberries, alright ok. That'll also wipe flavoured yoghurts, jams, anything jam goes into, ****ing strawberry condoms, all out next. But what's this, another fruit or vegetable crop needs picking cos it's ripe? What should we do? Let it go to **** as well?

olestoepoke · 17-04-2020 09:40AM

GarIT wrote: »

Where is my guarantee they will send someone back?

This is not the issue. They are europeans and can stay if they want for as long as they want. The issue is that free travel is dangerous no matter where they are coming from. We have they thing under control but its pointless if we are allowing dozens of untested people in without quarantine.

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 09:40AM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is what it comes down to....lads painting strawberries as essential.foodstuff are pure and utter deluded

Given all scrafices everyone making,to.fcuk it away for strawberrys seems idiotic

Can you please show us the list of non essential VS essential foodstuffs for future reference

Covid19 · 17-04-2020 09:40AM

paw patrol wrote: »

many people are missing the point - It'[s not about foreigners or strawberries.

as a nation we are all making sacrifices for this Covid19 .

People are confined to house (2km) haven't seen family in weeks, lost jobs and debts mounting up, cancelled holidays , firms going bust etc..etc…

The Taoiseach addresses the nation and gives the heartfelt pleas etc..
Now we see this.

Whatever you say , these people are adding to the mix. This cant be denied.
At a time when no more than 10 people can attend a funeral.

It's nonsense behaviour and makes a mockery of our "lockdown" and the threats from Drew Harris.

The next time the Taoiseach addresses the nation to give more updates and pleas for compliance .
His words will be empty and insincere cos of this.

EXACTLY!. It was being discussed on RTE with Sean O Rourke, Damien McCullach and another from Countryfile coming to Keelings Defence. Both contributes having links with Keelings through Bord Bia.
Keelings would not come on air. Rourke saying how important growers like this are to the economy. Completely missing the point.
In fact the Interview probably did more to vex people than ease the hysteria. Did anyone hear it. Talk about circling the wagons to prop up the profits of a private company.

JustAThought · 17-04-2020 09:40AM

seasonal strawberries for a hugely successful private family business are not essential for the survival of the masses and importing 189 workers is an obscenity in this climate.

how many strawberries are worth a doctor or nurses life?

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:41AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Essential travel restructions only apply to other people.

That aren't providing essential services, like food.

Jinglejangle69 · 17-04-2020 09:42AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is what it comes down to....lads painting strawberries as essential.foodstuff are pure and utter deluded

Given all scrafices everyone making,to.fcuk it away for strawberrys seems idiotic

What about alcohol?

Should we stop the sale of it as its non essential and will all the outraged on this thread be happy about that?

seamus · 17-04-2020 09:42AM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

They tried to hire locally, but couldn't get the numbers. What do you want?

They're really angry that Keelings don't have the power of clairvoyance and didn't train Irish workers to do this work last year so that they wouldn't have to bring in skilled workers during a pandemic.

Honestly, the whole, "I have to stay 2km from home rabble rabble" stuff is pure ranty nonsense.

You'd swear every essential worker in the country was working within 2km of their home and social distancing while at work.

paw patrol, why are you not outraged that the Tesco worker is "allowed" to travel 10km to work every day?

mgn · 17-04-2020 09:42AM

Scotty # wrote: »

Gar, these are 190 of several thousand that are needed and will be brought in, not just by Keelings.

So if all these people are going to be brought in why are we bothered with this lock down at all,
It appears with a lot of posters on here think that the likes of a fruit company is more important that peoples lives,

maestroamado · 17-04-2020 09:43AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Pat Kenny interviewing Simon Harris about this now on Newstalk. To be honest I find Simon Harris responses extremely irritating and patronising.

Hes basically saying there's nothing to see here and "maybe" in a few weeks we will look at this a bit closer! In the meantime its vital for our citizens to stay at home and wash their hands! He's damn patronizing , feels like we are being bold school children and being told what to do. Crazy!

feels like we are being bold school children and being told what to do. Crazy!
Quote of the day that is exactly what we are...

LeinsterDub · 17-04-2020 09:43AM

Anyone listen to James O'Brien yesterday?

32,000 applied for these jobs in the UK
900 were short listed
Less than 112 signed contracts

Stateofyou · 17-04-2020 09:43AM

I can't believe there are 48 pages on this. Is this some easy outlet for people to vent their built up anger and frustration at? Wtaf is this situation doing to impact any of your lives except in the positive to keep the food chain going. Last I checked we all (as in all countries) need to be doing their best in that regard or we're all screwed.

Boxcar_Willie · 17-04-2020 09:43AM

They're also not isolating for 14 days.
Already this morning they are walking around Termonfeckin village in groups and going to the village shop.
Locals were scared enough to go there before this .

17-04-2020 09:43AM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Can you please show us the list of non essential VS essential foodstuffs for future reference

Hmm.....anything that requires hundreds of labour units and cant be harvested mechanically can be listed non-essential

What diet requires strawberrys as a vital componant to be balanced??

17-04-2020 09:43AM

GarIT wrote: »

I won't be applying

You could have stopped typing there tbh.

FVP3 · 17-04-2020 09:44AM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

You've went from me and mammy will do it, to I won't do it unless someone gets sent home in the space of an hour.

20 minutes out working, and you'd be leaving, and that person would need to be re recruited.

It's not just the 189 that are needed. We'll need 1000's over the course of the growing season. What next? **** the strawberries, alright ok. That'll also wipe flavoured yoghurts, jams, anything jam goes into, ****ing strawberry condoms, all out next. But what's this, another fruit or vegetable crop needs picking cos it's ripe? What should we do? Let it go to **** as well?

why assume that Irish people couldn't do this? Something genetic? As I said students used to do that, I picked apples myself as a kid when I visited family in Tipperary. Automated now.

Full union wages by the way.

As for the economy, its a bit odd to protect ( checks notes) Strawberry picking when every other part of the service economy, construction and so on is thrown to the wolves.

blinding · 17-04-2020 09:44AM

Not to mention that in these Trying Times would it not be better to Keep the Money in Ireland; Just saying.

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 09:44AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Need to include weed nowadays :pac: .....literally thousands of irish passed through fruit farms in ozzie....picking bananas is forever more physical than strawberry picking

Personally, while it's more physical from a weight point of view - having experience of watermelon picking, banana humping and picking strawberries, I can tell you that out of all three I would gladly carry the 50kg bunch of bananas all day every day rather than pick another single strawberry or watermelon.

All the lads in here who say they'd do it for less than the covid payment have never done it before, that's for sure.

blinding · 17-04-2020 09:45AM

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

They're also not isolating for 14 days.
Already this morning they are walking around Termonfeckin village in groups and going to the village shop.
Locals were scared enough to go there before this .

We are being spun many the fine yarn for the Worship of Cheap / Exploited Labour:eek:

olestoepoke · 17-04-2020 09:46AM

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

They're also not isolating for 14 days.
Already this morning they are walking around Termonfeckin village in groups and going to the village shop.
Locals were scared enough to go there before this .

Really? If true this is a disgrace. What about Keelings statement that they would be restricted?

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

What diet requires strawberrys as a vital componant to be balanced??

What fruits/vegetables produce do you deem essential enough that we should continue to maintain supply?

17-04-2020 09:47AM

LeBash wrote: »

I dont get the issue here.

200 people arrive, pick food, then leave.

They will 99% only mix with themselves, they cant go to a pub, cinema etc and without people picking food we would have a much bigger problem in a month.

This is probably much safer than having 200 Irish workers all working together and then going home each night.

Get out of here with your rationale. 200 of them are stealing a job from garIT

Jinglejangle69 · 17-04-2020 09:47AM

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

They're also not isolating for 14 days.
Already this morning they are walking around Termonfeckin village in groups and going to the village shop.
Locals were scared enough to go there before this .

Link?

seanboylan87 · 17-04-2020 09:47AM

fryup wrote: »

are bulgarian women sexy?

No, larger (than average) Slavic foreheads and high hairlines.

Boxcar_Willie · 17-04-2020 09:47AM

blinding wrote: »

We are being spun many the fine yarn for the Worship of Cheap / Exploited Labour:eek:

No yarn . In a small village outsiders stick out like are sore thumb . They are here and they're not isolating . FACT .

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:48AM

FVP3 wrote: »

As for the economy, its a bit odd to protect ( checks notes) Strawberry picking when every other part of the service economy, construction and so on is thrown to the wolves.

Other than food production which has quite sensibly been included on the "essential" list.

Sofiztikated · 17-04-2020 09:48AM

seamus wrote: »

They're really angry that Keelings don't have the power of clairvoyance and didn't train Irish workers to do this work last year so that they wouldn't have to bring in skilled workers during a pandemic.

Honestly, the whole, "I have to stay 2km from home rabble rabble" stuff is pure ranty nonsense.

You'd swear every essential worker in the country was working within 2km of their home and social distancing while at work.

paw patrol, why are you not outraged that the Tesco worker is "allowed" to travel 10km to work every day?

We've had work restrictions, like everyone else in the country, but wait til they find out that our average daily travel, per vehicle, is still 200odd kilometres.

Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

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