Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 09:16AM

GarIT wrote: »

It has been confirmed they are not self isolating

There would be no point self isolating as they are going to work together, and live together in workers accomodation. Self isolation not remotely possible.

Ballso · 17-04-2020 09:16AM

GarIT wrote: »

Ok, that wasn't the post I was replying to. None should be brought in another solution should be found.

I have a solution, you do it.

17-04-2020 09:17AM

Simon Harris talking about it on Pat Kenny now

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:17AM

GarIT wrote: »

Ok, that wasn't the post I was replying to. None should be brought in another solution should be found.

Your volunteer fruit picking army from the UK wouldn't have produced enough inexperienced pickers to harvest one crop for one fruit producer here.

Do you have another cunning plan?

maestroamado · 17-04-2020 09:17AM

I do not see anything wrong with them coming to pick the fruit as long as they self isolate, that's what the medics that came back to work in our hospitals did.
It will be easy to keep distance as strawberry be well spaced, we have our Gardai monitoring so i expect it will be a work-camp type of thing.
Keeling's have the fruit that needs picking, it is not work suitable for Irish workers?? they have little choice but employ and pay the people that want/need the money.
I read somewhere (maybe here) that the fruit growers in UK were inundated with local applicants for field work.

I am one of the people who complains about import of veg that we traditionally grew in this country as i would like us to be more self efficient in this area.
I not too worries about fruit as we have not the climate to grow oranges etc...

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 09:17AM

kravmaga wrote: »

So your branding all of us on this thread as non -intelligent now?? Get a grip will you. A tad condescending tbh?

See article 10, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/y-ddeddf-hawliau-dynol/article-10-freedom-expression

What in the holy hell is this? :pac:

AndyBoBandy · 17-04-2020 09:17AM

GarIT wrote: »

You can't say that Bulgaria is safe because the numbers are low if we don't know the real numbers.

We also don't know the real numbers from the U.K. so we also can't say the U.K. is safe either, yet we receive 10 flights per day from the U.K.!! So where's the outrage there??

At Least with the Bulgarians, we know where they are and will be! Can we say the same for all Pax on those U.K. flights?

blinding · 17-04-2020 09:17AM

The Religion of Cheap / Exploited Labour Survives the Lock Down.

Ireland the Society of Cheap / Exploited Labour . Hallelujah , Hallelujah , Hallelujah , Hallelujah.

World Pandemic against Cheap / Exploited Labour = No Contest = Winner = Cheap Labour / Exploited Labour.

17-04-2020 09:18AM

GarIT wrote: »

The rate is lower in Bulgaria because they aren't testing. The actual numbers aren't known

7 million population just over 18,000 tests

We have just under 5 million and had nearly 91,000 tests by April 13th.

whisky_galore · 17-04-2020 09:18AM

Lol.
Non intelligent, the new safeword for stupid.

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 09:18AM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

We also don't know the real numbers from the U.K. so we also can't say th eU.K. is safe, yet we receive 10 flights per day from the U.K.!! So where's the outrage there??

At Least with the Bulgarians, we know where they are and will be! Can we say the same for all Pax on those U.K. flights?

Whoa there Andy can't be dropping another sense nugget into the outrage thread, you're starting to make a right few people look a little silly

weldoninhio · 17-04-2020 09:19AM

Graham wrote: »

How many of our every day fruit & veg do you think might be picked by migrant fruit pickers somewhere?

I'd rather stick to the thread topic. You don't seem to be able to.

Ballso · 17-04-2020 09:19AM

GarIT wrote: »

Fine. I have no problem with that. I'll be out there tomorrow if they send one person home

Great, keep us posted with your application

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:20AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'd rather stick to the thread topic. You don't seem to be able to.

You're somehow able to disconnect discussion of food production from a discussion about food production?

maestroamado · 17-04-2020 09:20AM

kravmaga wrote: »

Corporate greed here at its worst, absolute disgrace.

We are greedy people? well most people i come across are.
"modesty" is the forgotton word of Irish society.

is_that_so · 17-04-2020 09:20AM

blinding wrote: »

The Religion of Cheap / Exploited Labour Survives the Lock Down.

Ireland the Society of Cheap / Exploited Labour . Hallelujah , Hallelujah , Hallelujah , Hallelujah.

World Pandemic against Cheap / Exploited Labour = No Contest = Winner = Cheap Labour / Exploited Labour.

Safe to say your poetry career is ended by this! That said, you might get a weak rap out of it if you can rhyme a bit better!

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:22AM

GarIT wrote: »

Fine. I have no problem with that. I'll be out there tomorrow if they send one person home

Awesome, you've gone from an army of volunteer fruit picker to "I'll do it".

I will now relax safe in the knowledge our food supply chain has been secured.

weldoninhio · 17-04-2020 09:22AM

wpd wrote: »

lots of companies are suffering with current close down for the greater good

I would rather the fruit rotted in the ground than we bring in these workers with all the risks associated
if they get sick they will also take resources in the hse and possibly the scarce icu beds while working here

How many punnets of strawberries is a human life worth???

Also, food rotting into the ground isn't a bad thing. The rotted fruit provides nutrients to the soil.

AndyBoBandy · 17-04-2020 09:22AM

GarIT wrote: »

As I have said 20 times already the airport's need to be closed nobody should be coming in regardless of nationality. At this stage we should possibly even refuse entry to Irish if they aren't here already.

You're dead right,

The economy is down for the count, drawing it's last few breaths, we just need to give it that killer blow to put it out of it's misery.

paw patrol · 17-04-2020 09:22AM

many people are missing the point - It'[s not about foreigners or strawberries.

as a nation we are all making sacrifices for this Covid19 .

People are confined to house (2km) haven't seen family in weeks, lost jobs and debts mounting up, cancelled holidays , firms going bust etc..etc…

The Taoiseach addresses the nation and gives the heartfelt pleas etc..
Now we see this.

Whatever you say , these people are adding to the mix. This cant be denied.
At a time when no more than 10 people can attend a funeral.

It's nonsense behaviour and makes a mockery of our "lockdown" and the threats from Drew Harris.

The next time the Taoiseach addresses the nation to give more updates and pleas for compliance .
His words will be empty and insincere cos of this.

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:23AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Also, food rotting into the ground isn't a bad thing.

Unless you're a farmer.

Or you like to eat.

Ballso · 17-04-2020 09:23AM

GarIT wrote: »

I won't be applying unless there is a guarantee one of the people who arrived will be sent home

Oh right. You're too late for this crop unfortunately. Luckily for you there are crops to be harvested all year, if you apply now you can prevent the next lot of pickers coming in as they won't be needed.

Let us know how it goes.

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 09:24AM

paw patrol wrote: »

many people are missing the point - It'[s not about foreigners or strawberries.

as a nation we are all making sacrifices for this Covid19 .

People are confined to house (2km) haven't seen family in weeks, lost jobs and debts mounting up, cancelled holidays , firms going bust etc..etc…

The Taoiseach addresses the nation and gives the heartfelt pleas etc..
Now we see this.

Whatever you say , these people are adding to the mix. This cant be denied.
At a time when no more than 10 people can attend a funeral.

It's nonsense behaviour and makes a mockery of our "lockdown" and the threats from Drew Harris.

The next time the Taoiseach addresses the nation to give more updates and pleas for compliance . His words will be hollow and insincere.

His words will be empty cos of this.

so basically your best take from this is

"ITS NOT FAIR, WAAAAHH"

gmisk · 17-04-2020 09:24AM

Graham wrote: »

Unless you're a farmer.

Or you like to eat.

Or you have a massive business that employs 2000 Irish people

is_that_so · 17-04-2020 09:24AM

GarIT wrote: »

As I have said 20 times already the airport's need to be closed nobody should be coming in regardless of nationality. At this stage we should possibly even refuse entry to Irish if they aren't here already.

900 people in and out on the Bank Holiday Monday v a typical 100K. Not sure what laws you'd be using for that last suggestion.

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:24AM

paw patrol wrote: »

People are confined to house (2km) haven't seen family in weeks, lost jobs and debts mounting up, cancelled holidays , firms going bust etc..etc….

Like other essential services, food production is not and has never been subject to those restrictions.

17-04-2020 09:24AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Might be just me but I'd consider strawberries as a luxury non essential expensive fruit

Where do you draw the line on that though? What’s essential and what’s luxury?

Ballso · 17-04-2020 09:24AM

GarIT wrote: »

The economy doesn't matter, it's the last thing to worry about right now

This is the level of idiocy we are dealing with. "The economy doesn't matter".

average_runner · 17-04-2020 09:25AM

Kivaro wrote: »

How do you know?
The fact that you would not do this work is a reflection on you, and you only, and not on Irish society as a whole.

By the way, there are plans for 1,500 to fly in to pick fruit and vegetables.
Not sure how that is going to help with the virus containment and the stay-at-home hardship that many people have to endure.

The jobs were advertised on their website and still crying for people.

Again these people will be force to stay on the farm and are coming a better country in regards to Corona.

Irish aren't staying at home anyhow, had to bring dog to the vet yesterday and the number out in groups was huge.

paw patrol · 17-04-2020 09:25AM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

so basically your best take from this is

"ITS NOT FAIR, WAAAAHH"

If that your take , I cant do much for you.:rolleyes:
have a nice day.

Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

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