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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #5972
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,550 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Trump Signature going on cheque, and him in full Crown and King attire

    He's one crazy dude.



    12357.jpg

    Trump ? That’s Johnny Giles ! Weird assed times ! :eek:


  • #5973
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    This is incorrect. These are the figures today (as I stated earlier).

    https://twitter.com/BloombergAsia/status/1250748154208825344

    551 fatalities and 5,183 new cases.

    Official from the
    Gobiernno de espana
    Government released figures
    2156 new cases
    318 new deaths


  • #5974
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Drivin through town on me tractor today, and only a handful of good lookin wimen our walking gettin suntanned. Usually there’d be loads.
    Very disappointed.


  • #5975
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Deleted User wrote: »
    While their lifestyles may not be good, the homeless probably have a good degree of base fitness due to spending a lot of time on their feet, walking. I wonder how VO2 max for asymptomatic / mild / severe cases compares

    I think what it proves is there no genetic pre disposition to severe symptoms, as one study in the US is trying to determine.

    After that, yes, you'd want to see what sets these homeless people apart. It has been suggested for example that children in cleaner homes are more susceptible to infections than those from less clean ones, as their immune systems have not had to fight off as many attacks.

    It seems like homeless people might be in that sweet spot - not usually too obese or unlikely to have major underlying conditions related to weight such as diabetes. Strong immune systems but not overly strong that it produces an over-reaction.


  • #5976
    Kilboor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Kilboor


    http://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-review-to-be-launched-into-why-ethnic-minorities-worst-hit-by-covid-19-11974116

    Interesting that this is affecting relatively wealthy minorities.

    I have no statistics on the UK but I believe in the US it's the same story amongst minorities especially in New Orleans however in the UKs case we are not talking about poverty being the main factor.


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  • #5977
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    That Irish times article is a bit ridiculous



    It was never hidden that there was a backlog of tests awaiting results! :rolleyes:
    That would be the George Lee school of mathematics!


  • #5978
    PokeHerKing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Sorry for speculating. I linked to nature. Of course its origin doesn't really change much for us as we are where we are now. I was reprimanded for using the term airborne early on. HSE reports showing transmission in some clusters as being airborne. I will cease and desist until such a time that it is proven.

    We've known its been airborne since January, similar to influenza. Ebola = not airborne. COVID19=airborne.

    I had similar arguments with some posters at the very beginning of these threads. They went on the ignore list pretty quick.


  • #5979
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,100 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    tobefrank321 wrote: »

    Strong immune systems but not overly strong that it produces an over-reaction.

    I thought it would be the opposite. That those who tend to be heavy drinkers would have weakened immune systems.


  • #5980
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Official from the
    Gobiernno de espana
    Government released figures
    2156 new cases
    318 new deaths

    That is until 9 pm yesterday, half the 24 hour period.

    The data is complete as of 7 am (see table 6 in your link)

    The complete official figures are released at 11 am each morning and are as I said.


  • #5981
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    That Irish times article is a bit ridiculous



    It was never hidden that there was a backlog of tests awaiting results! :rolleyes:

    Irish Examiner right?


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  • #5982
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Irish Examiner right?
    Mary could be moonlighting for both in her downtime from nursing, public health management and amateur virology.


  • #5983
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Longing wrote: »
    Still waiting Day 20.

    Unlikely to be the only one. I suspect our total number of cases is close to the deaths x 100 rule of thumb which is about 44,000 cases, many of them asymptomatic.


  • #5984
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Biden never said that. Biden said stopping flights and building a wall won't stop the virus which is correct especially after horse had bolted. Italy were the first country on Earth to ban flights from China...

    The xenophobic/fear mongering had nothing to do with China, that was something else and used by right wing pundits and Trumps campaign ads https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trump-campaigns-misleading-ad-attacking-biden-on-china/

    Italy is also in mainland Europe and part of schengen area, so all people had to do is fly into another EU country and walk or get a train across the border


  • #5985
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    nacho libre wrote: »
    I thought it would be the opposite. That those who tend to be heavy drinkers would have weakened immune systems.

    I'm not sure of the link between heavy drinkers and immune systems.

    Funnily enough we all know heavy drinkers who never come down with anything. And also perfectly healthy non or light drinkers who are floored by a flu every year and also covid19.


  • #5986
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,251 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Was the link to the HSE map posted here? Can't seem to find it.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #5987
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,100 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    I'm not sure of the link between heavy drinkers and immune systems.

    Funnily enough we all know heavy drinkers who never come down with anything. .

    I would say they are rare enough. My friend's father, who smoked a pipe and drank heavily, is still going at 83, but he is not in good health, yet he has survived much longer than some people who were clean living.

    Still I don't know too many heavy drinkers that last well into their eighties. Maybe some folks, like the man i described above, are born with extra t cells or something that enable them to live longer no matter what they put in their body.


  • #5988
    Roberto_gas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭Roberto_gas


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Was the link to the HSE map posted here? Can't seem to find it.

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-20-00-15-april-2020.pdf


  • #5989
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭1641


    The Office for National Statistics indictes that 3,912 people died with Coronavirus in England and Wales up until 31st March. The DOH figures had indicated there were 2,226 deaths up until the same date (deaths only included for hospital settings). So the real figure for England and Wales was about 75% higher than the official daily figures.
    There is no reason to doubt that this is any different today. Applying that to the 12,868 figure for today on Worldometer would suggest the real number of deaths in the UK is closer to 22,600.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-more-than-1-600-covid-19-linked-deaths-outside-of-hospitals-in-england-and-wales-in-march-11974052


  • #5990
    Strumms
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    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    I'm not sure of the link between heavy drinkers and immune systems.

    Funnily enough we all know heavy drinkers who never come down with anything. And also perfectly healthy non or light drinkers who are floored by a flu every year and also covid19.

    In a very heavy drinker and a person who has been a heavy drinker for a significant duration a compromised immune system is likely. The link between a heavy drinker and a compromised immune system is very well documented, I had this conversation with a doctor friend of mine weeks ago...

    https://www.recoveryways.com/rehab-blog/how-does-alcohol-affect-your-immune-system/

    Lung issues, cognitive issues, many cancers just to name a few problems.


  • #5991
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    I'm not sure of the link between heavy drinkers and immune systems.

    Funnily enough we all know heavy drinkers who never come down with anything. And also perfectly healthy non or light drinkers who are floored by a flu every year and also covid19.

    They are definitely not healthier

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/homeless-people-have-an-average-lifespan-of-just-42-422638.html


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  • #5992
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,935 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Just thinking, if it took 3 weeks for Mary Lou McDonald to get her results then I assume the daily updates we get are from up to 3 weeks ago? Ie the start of the lockdown?


  • #5993
    crossman47
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    colmtheperson wrote: »
    Just thinking, if it took 3 weeks for Mary Lou McDonald to get her results then I assume the daily updates we get are from up to 3 weeks ago? Ie the start of the lockdown?

    You assume wrong. Its a lot quicker now.


  • #5994
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    colmtheperson wrote: »
    Just thinking, if it took 3 weeks for Mary Lou McDonald to get her results then I assume the daily updates we get are from up to 3 weeks ago? Ie the start of the lockdown?
    Not now, they seem close to being up to date on testing and results. Plans for a max 48 hour turnaround are coming once the testing system is fully in place.


  • #5995
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    fin12 wrote: »
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/the-numbers-are-being-fudged-says-nurse-who-brands-testing-regime-an-omnishambles-994236.html

    Testing regime a shambles.

    The anonymous nurse seems a bit confused. She wants us to report people as positive before they have a test result? Seems a bit unscientific.


  • #5996
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,353 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I think everyone should remember that every new case you hear from now is because two people did not observe the rules of lockdown, social distancing, hand hygiene and cough etiquette.


  • #5997
    Iamabeliever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    I think everyone should remember that every new case you hear from now is because two people did not observe the rules of lockdown, social distancing, hand hygiene and cough etiquette.

    And not breathing


  • #5998
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Longing


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not now, they seem close to being up to date on testing and results. Plans for a max 48 hour turnaround are coming once the testing system is fully in place.

    Results for health care workers yes. But for normal joe so's on the street. Still 3 weeks.


  • #5999
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    I think everyone should remember that every new case you hear from now is because two people did not observe the rules of lockdown, social distancing, hand hygiene and cough etiquette.

    Or just one person.... i.e the jogger that ran past me the other day and practically brushed against my shoulder.


  • #6000
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Amirani wrote: »
    The anonymous nurse seems a bit confused. She wants us to report people as positive before they have a test result? Seems a bit unscientific.

    Not really. The government have been advising something similar, to presume you are positive if you have symptoms.

    Also Dr. Holohan mentioned yesterday evening that some doctors are reporting deaths as likely caused by covid 19 before test results come back.

    "Mary" is saying that the real number of cases is far higher than the official one. We all know this to be true. Even Nolan and Holohan admitted it, that for every 5 confirmed cases, there is at least another 5 unconfirmed ones.


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  • #6001
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,985 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    crossman47 wrote:
    You assume wrong. Its a lot quicker now.
    How much quicker seeing as you made a statement of fact there?


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