Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

1…180181183185186…319

Comments

  • #5462
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Iamabeliever wrote: »
    Just putting it out - is it time to ban running in public?
    Snow Garden wrote: »
    No. It wont happen. Would be idiotic to do so.


    Banning running would be chaotic. You could need to run for a number of very valid and essential reasons.

    Now jogging is an entirely different matter.:P


  • #5463
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    You prove to me that they didn't bring the virus back first. Link please.
    It was moronic for thousands of Irish to head over as the virus was already rampant over there.

    The first Irish Covid 19 genome sequenced was from a sample taken on 3 March (a week before Cheltenham started).

    https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global?f_country=Ireland


  • #5464
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    A guy gets arrested in Wicklow for going outside the 2km zone. But Travellers can travel from all over Ireland and the UK to a funeral. What a joke.

    Ffs stop talking bollox will ya.
    Hundreds of middle class goons on Greystones beach today but as they are not travellers it’s grand. Eh?

    And while I’m at it, the clowns at Cheltenham. Were they all arrested?

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #5465
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    A guy gets arrested in Wicklow for going outside the 2km zone. But Travellers can travel from all over Ireland and the UK to a funeral. What a joke.

    Where was or is the funeral?


  • #5466
    autumnbelle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle


    Offaly


  • Advertisement
  • #5467
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    (Vietnam) Had to make a health declaration today including whether or not I had been in the market around the corner at certain times going back as far as the 8th March. They have seven periods listed off. Tried to buy Panadol at the pharmacy earlier with my brother and got grilled since pharmacies are now meant to report any medication for fever.

    Today was initially meant to be the end of the proper social distancing measures but have a bad feeling it's spreading a lot now. Hopefully not. Will find out whether or it's proactive or reactive in the coming days. Day 89 of no work.


  • #5468
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    The first Irish Covid 19 genome sequenced was from a sample taken on 3 March (a week before Cheltenham started).

    https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global?f_country=Ireland

    So all cases in Ireland stemmed from this one genome sequence? OMG, pity the fool.


  • #5469
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    Ffs stop talking bollox will ya.
    Hundreds of middle class goons on Greystones beach today but as they are not travellers it’s grand. Eh?

    And while I’m at it, the clowns at Cheltenham. Were they all arrested?


    Restrictions were not in place during Cheltenham.


  • #5470
    johnfás
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭johnfás


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    And while I’m at it, the clowns at Cheltenham. Were they all arrested?

    Well it wasn’t illegal at that stage so the comparator doesn’t hold.


  • #5471
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    MintyMagnum wrote: »
    I didn't see him offering his customary condolences today?

    Bad form really.


  • Advertisement
  • #5472
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Ah but sure they are all isolating for 2 weeks except when they turn up en masse at funerals. Expect a spike in positive cases in Birr in the next few weeks.

    Was it over 100 at a funeral in Birr? Did the Gardai not have any control? The rules need to apply to everyone, how are they over here from UK, is flights and ferries still running?


  • #5473
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    So all cases in Ireland stemmed from this one genome sequence? OMG, pity the fool.

    You said: 'You prove to me that they didn't bring the virus back first. Link please.'

    I gave you the link.


  • #5474
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,354 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    113 cases in Clare


  • #5475
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »
    [/b]

    Restrictions were not in place during Cheltenham.

    Fair enough, advisories were in place.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #5476
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    branie2 wrote: »
    113 cases in Clare

    So that's everyone then? :P


  • #5477
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    johnfás wrote: »
    Well it wasn’t illegal at that stage so the comparator doesn’t hold.

    I see you ignored the part about the beach.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #5478
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    So all cases in Ireland stemmed from this one genome sequence? OMG, pity the fool.

    And, no they didn't. 12 genomes sequenced from samples taken between 3 and 10 March (Cheltenham started on 10 March).

    There were several separate 'introduction events'.

    https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global?f_country=Ireland


  • #5479
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    You said: 'You prove to me that they didn't bring the virus back first. Link please.'

    I gave you the link.
    The "first" in that sentence was a suggestion that you prove it "first". Not that it was the "first" case. Still pitying the fool.


  • #5480
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    Offaly

    Any link to that boss?


  • #5481
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,049 ✭✭✭growleaves


    I never compared it to the Spanish Flu just objected to the comparison with the flu.

    I'm replying to so many posters that some of the points I was making have been confused.

    According to WHO estimates, flu claims 650,000 lives a year. We may be in and around that territory. It isn't clear that we aren't. 1-2 million deaths would be comparable to harsh 20th century pandemics.
    And as for proof of the effects of the lockdown, I really can't see what point you are trying to make. In countries were the virus was widespread we see cases are eventually and thankfully coming down as a result of the lockdown. Are you claiming that the lockdown had no effect and the numbers would have decreased at the same rate themselves?

    Well I was originally replying to a poster who was projecting millions of deaths. If we get hundreds of thousands of deaths then we should be careful about saying that the lockdowns saved millions of lives since we may have only been on track for hundreds of thousands of deaths anyway.

    The efficacy of the lockdown is unproven. At this stage it is possible the numbers would have decreased by the same amount, or was effective but not by a huge margin (and a huge positive difference will definitely be claimed by politicians both foreign and domestic).
    Travel around the world was largely stopped and other countries have, hopefully, been spared an outbreak for the time being.

    True. Travel restrictions and border control do seem to be necessary.


  • Advertisement
  • #5482
    Neamhshuntasach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    rm212 wrote: »
    Are you telling me that deaths don’t result from cases? And if our cases continue to increase, we won’t have more deaths? Because all I said was that increased cases will result in more deaths.

    Deaths will happen regardless of whether tests uncovered cases. We could test 50% less and still have the same number of deaths from it. The cases reported only come from the fact that there is more testing. The cases and deaths would still exist regardless. But only one of them would be known.


  • #5483
    johnfás
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭johnfás


    Working class heroes wrote: »
    I see you ignored the part about the beach.

    I didn’t disagree with the bit about the beach so don’t see the relevance? People on the beach in Greystones should be arrested. But that doesn’t retrospectively mean it was illegal to go to Cheltenham , even if it should have been.

    So, in short, your comparator didn’t hold. As I said.


  • #5484
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    I think that's unfair, I have a similar reaction to those 'underlying condition' posts - I can understand why people do it, but I also don't think people realise how it comes across. I try to bite my tongue most of the time. It's not a virtue-signalling thing, it genuinely does seem very disrespectful to the deceased to me to be seeking out photos to ascertain whether they were obese or not. Maybe it's just me? Can you not see that?

    Another thing - people have said that it comforts them somewhat to know there was an underlying condition. Yet in the next breath they'll be saying 'well maybe they had an underlying condition they didn't know about!' At which point, where's the comfort? Any of us could have an underlying condition we don't know about!

    I agree. We all probably have an underlying condition that will explain away our death.

    Great so many on here to throw stones in glass houses.


  • #5485
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    The "first" in that sentence was a suggestion that you prove it "first". Not that it was the "first" case. Still pitying the fool.

    It's virtually impossible to prove that anyone who travelled anywhere didn't 'bring back the virus'.


  • #5486
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,049 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Do you know what the current US death toll is after a month and a quarter?

    But exponential increases do not (cannot) continue indefinitely and can and will at some point pivot into exponential decreases, as Dr. Fauci knows.


  • #5487
    Mike3549
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Neamhshuntasach wrote: »
    Deaths will happen regardless of whether tests uncovered cases. We could test 50% less and still have the same number of deaths from it. The cases reported only come from the fact that there is more testing. The cases and deaths would still exist regardless. But only one of them would be known.

    Actually we would have more deaths if we had less tests. If youre tested and confirmed, youre quarantines at home or hospital, treated properly, if not tested - you continue your daily life, spreading the virus everywhere


  • #5488
    Bushmaster64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭Bushmaster64


    A quite long and protracted flat-ish curve for Ireland. Basically spreading out the cases and deaths which is what most countries were hoping for when they realised they couldn't stop the virus or contain it as such. Stop the spike and spread out the cases. It's still quite depressing when you see the same sort of figures every day without much improvement.

    Same in the UK really. Apparently the field hospital is pretty much empty, so no spike.


  • #5489
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,894 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    johnfás wrote: »
    I didn’t disagree with the bit about the beach so don’t see the relevance? People on the beach in Greystones should be arrested. But that doesn’t retrospectively mean it was illegal to go to Cheltenham , even if it should have been.

    So, in short, your comparator didn’t hold. As I said.

    Imo it most certainly does hold. Legalities aside both were/are wrong and put public health in danger.

    But I take your point.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #5490
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,831 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    It's virtually impossible to prove that anyone who travelled anywhere didn't 'bring back the virus'.

    Facepalm.jpg


  • Advertisement
  • #5491
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    growleaves wrote: »
    But exponential increases do not (cannot) continue indefinitely and can and will at some point pivot into exponential decreases, as Dr. Fauci knows.

    Exponential decrease has not been observed in any european country with the harshest lockdowns, after more than a month in. USA will reach far more than 60,000 deaths. Will be almost 30,000 by tonight, and this doesnt include the number of nursing home deaths and home deaths. There are at least 4,000 unreported deaths in NYC alone


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement