Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Someone aged 105 has died in a nursing home. What a horrible way for it to end after such a long life

growleaves wrote: »

You don't know what you're talking about.

There have been 1-2 millions of deaths from minor 20th century pandemics such as the 1957-58 pandemic.

So far covid-19 has claimed 127,000 lives.

Only projections of fears and assumptions make covid comparable to the Spanish Flu which killed fifty million.

In terms or spread RATE and mortality RATE, Covid-19 has been worse than the 57-58 flu. This may get better as we tackle the virus and we might not see deaths in the millions. Hopefully that's the case.

However, as an example, in the course of over 2 years H2N2 killed just under 30,000 people in Britain. In the three months since Covid-19 hit UK shores, it has killed nearly 13,000.

Your mistake is that you're simply looking at the final death toll of something that was in effect in one form or another for years and failing to take into account other contexts.

We may turn a corner and get this thing under control in the next few months and minimise its effects and if that's the case, we can all be thankful. But right now, it's being rightfully compared to the pandemic that occurred at the end of WWI, because not taking it that seriously is a bad idea indeed.

rm212 wrote: »

I remember a lot of posters recently saying, “oh the number of new cases is not increasing, that’s good, the higher deaths is expected because we had an increase in cases last week”. Now the narrative is, “oh the deaths are staying steady and possibly decreasing slightly, more cases are just because more testing!” Which one is it?

I swear, anything to fit the narrative that we’re over it and ready to lift restrictions...

Both statements can be true.

walshb wrote: »

Anyone else getting fed up with the daily updates now? Covid fatigue really kicking in for me...

Holohan must have a right pain in his bollix with it..

I just watch the RTE news, they give a quick update, and move on... usually to other covid related news

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Completely agree, the man is so utterly inept and ineffectual in the role, it's a waste of time. Bypass him. Ignore his daily press comedy routine and get on with real business instead of his reality TV sideshow.

Unfortunately, he can't just be ignored when his actions are making things worse and not better. If he was some tin pot clown in some insignificant backwater, it would be fine to so. But, alas, he's not.

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

These journalists are the worst. The question about the 100 tests was answered yesterday and it's being asked again and the journalist is still referring to it as a false negative when it wasn't. Fúcks sake.

I know. Its repetitive..
False negatives are a legitimate question. But not those indeterminate results that were incorrectly reported back to the individual, and explained yesterday.

Deleted User wrote: »

If its taking 7 to 10 days to show sythoms....we should in theory,now have nearly only cases spread in houses??


Why is it still going up?

Have you been outside?

I went shopping today and never saw Lidl so busy at 12pm on a Wednesday. There were loads of people out walking, little to no social distancing being adhered to.

I saw two people total wearing masks. Numerous older women (75+) without masks interacting with others.

Ace2007 wrote: »

I thought we were at the peak last week from reading comments, are we sure that it's now, like it can't be next week or the week after, or the month after that?

Was it not the whole point of social distancing to not peak?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Increases in cases will produce an increase in deaths... statistically speaking.

Whether they came from an Irish lab or a German lab, or there is a backlog... or the tests are 2 weeks old... statistically none of that is really important. More cases will produce more deaths. And that is exactly what we're witnessing.

Not entirely,
The German tests are historical means that the majority are lower priority and milder cases. If some of those have since become serious cases they would have been added to the higher priority test list or god forbid had infection confirmed post mortem.

On the 11th they started adding the German cases
April 10th - 287 deaths 7054 cases = 4%
Today - 444 deaths 12547 (incl German) = 3.5%

In terms or spread RATE and mortality RATE, Covid-19 has been worse than the 57-58 flu. This may get better as we tackle the virus and we might not see deaths in the millions. Hopefully that's the case.

The mortality rate is unknown, it is only projections which put it in worst-pandemic territory, and the predictions of millions of deaths from the models by Fauci and the ICL have been revised downwards to tens of thousands.

60,000 deaths in the US is Fauci's upper estimate. That's less than a particularly bad flu season (68,000 dead in one year).

Let me just repeat that, and try to let it sink in for a moment:

Dr. Anthony Fauci is predicting that covid-19 in the US will be less deadly than a harsh flu season.

Fauci: US death toll 'looks more like 60,000' than 100-200K estimate