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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Interesting - could provoke so local reaction in places - #i can see a small cluster near where I live in a rural area that is likely to be a nursing home, but maybe might provoke a small bit of anxiety in the local shop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    First detailed map I've seen.

    Looks to be the same source as the screenshot from last(?) week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    RobertKK wrote: »
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

    There were warnings from US cables from China that the security measures at the Wuhan lab were not what they should be.
    The Chinese were studying bat coronaviruses to understand them better and to try and prevent a future pandemic.
    It was know the lab was a risk but nothing was done to make it far more secure.

    If you've watched the video "I Found The Source of the Coronavirus" by Laowhy86 on Youtube recently, this article seems to back his findings.

    In case you're wondering who the random guy posting that video is, he used to live in China for years, learning the language etc. before he had to move out of the country as things became too difficult. He's assembled some interesting data freely available on the Chinese internet but in Chinese. Pretty much identical to the stuff the WP article is saying except he posted it about two weeks ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    The first person arrested for breaking emergency Covid-19 restrictions has appeared in court

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0415/1130713-covid-charged-break-restrictions/

    Probably more to do with his driving issues than anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Singapore reports new daily record of 477 cases

    Singapore has gone from 1600 cases to 3700 in just seven days

    From the New York Times


    Singapore officials have been screening and quarantining all travelers from outside the country since the beginning of the pandemic. Their contact tracing is second to none. Every time they identify an infection, they commit to determining its origin in two hours. They post online where identified infected people work, live and have spent time so that potential contacts can be identified. They enforce quarantines and isolation of such contacts, with criminal charges for those who violate orders.

    And yet, in the last week, they’ve put the entire country into lockdown. All migrant workers are confined to their compounds for at least two weeks. Citizens may leave their homes, but only to buy food or medicine, or to exercise. Anyone who breaks the rules, including spending time with anyone not in their household, can be imprisoned, fined the equivalent of $7,000 U.S., or both.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Example needs to be made of him next week. Prison time or massive fine.

    Anything to be said for execution? Or is that a bit far?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭Minnie Snuggles


    Probably more to do with his driving issues than anything.


    We will just have to see what happens to the other 6 that were arrested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,992 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Anything to be said for execution? Or is that a bit far?

    If he's lucky, he might get away with crucifixion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Anything to be said for execution? Or is that a bit far?

    Making them jog until they expire will probably satisfy the most people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,049 ✭✭✭growleaves


    We will just have to see what happens to the other 6 that were arrested.

    Some of them were absolute piss-takers, like the guy who allegedly sneezed towards a garda and shouted "there's your coronavirus".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,534 ✭✭✭✭Alun




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg



    The Phoenix park is the only safe place in Dublin.

    Lets all go there immediately. Follow me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1



    Poor Dublin, our epi centre, no wonder their hospitals full


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    First detailed map I've seen.

    It also tells me we need to blow all the bridges on the shannon before we let anymore of the rest of ye pox infected feckers in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,770 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Even CNN who hate Trump were giving out about the WHO last night, saying they were slow to call it a pandemic.

    The initial WHO response to this was woeful, no-one disputes that. They advised people to fly away, both in and out of China. This was the starting point for the worldwide spread.

    If this was isolated to China early, we'd actually have a functioning world economy at the moment, instead of wrecked economies and another Great Depression on the way.

    There was no chance for it to be isolated to China. Not with the way the world works. It was only a matter of time before some asymptomatic case flew somewhere with the virus.

    Blaming the WHO for that is stupid.

    As an organisation they may have made some missteps here and there at the beginning of this outbreak. But they're dealing with something that hasn't been seen in a century.

    Trump's bollocks is about his petty trade war with China and pointing at someone else to apportion blame.

    At the very best, it's unhelpful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    WHO? Seriously? A body that denied human to human transmission was possible and only called it a pandemic after most countries were in deep sh*t. A bit of forewarning would have been helpful. WHO have done a lot of good things in the past but the way they have been played by the Chinese in all this is without doubt.

    You cannot social distance infinitely.

    As for it not being an EU competency, this is exactly why many people have a problem with the EU. Whenever there is a crisis, they sh*t their pants and are unable to act in time to prevent it escalating hugely. Next to no leadership on this.

    What? WHO said that covid-19 couldn't be passed from human to human? When was this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Alun wrote: »

    Thanks, spent ages trying to find these.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    growleaves wrote: »
    Being overweight and obese are major risk factors for this pandemic in otherwise healthy people. That is now very clear.

    The fact that people would think even about banning outdoor exercise during a pandemic which is a killer for the overweight shows the extreme fixation on the single factor of risk of outdoor transmission.

    Mandatory exercise and fasting for people over a certain weight by order of the government would just as reasonable a response as the restrictions (and no more or less authoritarian imo).

    lol @mandatory fasting...
    No-one's trying to ban outdoor exercising, there's more than one way to skin a cat and all people are saying is that running on footpaths needs some kind of regulation if people can't regulate it themselves (ie, choose a quiet footpath, or quiet time). Having said that I don't really know if it's realistically enforceable.

    Also if someone's overweight to the point where it's a clear risk factor than they're not going to lose that weight overnight and suddenly be risk-free because they're running on footpaths once a day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Who on rte live


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Live W.H.O. press briefing now.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    If he's lucky, he might get away with crucifixion.

    The Romanian Orthodox church celebrate Easter a week later than us so we could arrange that crucifixion for this Friday, tie in nicely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Probably more to do with his driving issues than anything.
    The bit about the driving with no licence and no insurance while disqualified is slipped in at the end of the article! :D Of course the Gardai would have turned a blind eye to these 'minor' offences if he was less than 2km from home.
    Good headline though RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,840 ✭✭✭quokula


    What? WHO said that covid-19 couldn't be passed from human to human? When was this?

    Before the evidence emerged that it could.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    khalessi wrote: »
    Who on rte live

    https://youtu.be/vwS1tC9Mp00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭ShayNanigan



    Are these maps somewhere online or are they only for professionals? Would be interesting to see. I haven't heard of anyone being sick (or confirmed as having Covid-19) or seen anything out of the ordinary but looking at that map I'm most likely completely surrounded by cases (as are many of us).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,049 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Also if someone's overweight to the point where it's a clear risk factor than they're not going to lose that weight overnight and suddenly be risk-free because they're running on footpaths once a day

    They'd better get a start all the same. Get the oul belly down before the much-fantasised winter second wave/mutation hits in October.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Are these maps somewhere online or are they only for professionals? Would be interesting to see. I haven't heard of anyone being sick (or confirmed as having Covid-19) or seen anything out of the ordinary but looking at that map I'm most likely completely surrounded by cases (as are many of us).

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid19-updates.html#daily-updates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,840 ✭✭✭quokula


    Are these maps somewhere online or are they only for professionals? Would be interesting to see. I haven't heard of anyone being sick (or confirmed as having Covid-19) or seen anything out of the ordinary but looking at that map I'm most likely completely surrounded by cases (as are many of us).

    There's over a million people in Dublin. Let's round it to a million. A few hundred dots will completely cover it up on a map at that scale, but that would still leave over 999 thousand unaffected.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Tony EH wrote: »
    There was no chance for it to be isolated to China. Not with the way the world works. It was only a matter of time before some asymptomatic case flew somewhere with the virus.

    Blaming the WHO for that is stupid.

    As an organisation they may have made some missteps here and there at the beginning of this outbreak. But they're dealing with something that hasn't been seen in a century.

    Trump's bollocks is about his petty trade war with China and pointing at someone else to apportion blame.

    At the very best, it's unhelpful.

    Not disagreeing with you on Trump but had Chinese lockdown Wuhan instead of letting millions go to all corners of the world after Chinese New year, maybe this could have been avoided?


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