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The UK response to Covid-19 [MOD WARNING 1ST POST]

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    People aren't criticising the UK for the sake of it. Nor are they criticising all the individual British people directly. They are criticising the UK government (and perhaps the system there too that allows those idiots to flourish) for their handling of this situation. It may appear blurred by the fact that the same idiots were recently driving another disaster of their own making (and still are). But that is a different issue
    The Country that produced FFG are in no position to criticise the political parties in other Countries. People in Glass Houses should not Throw Stones ! !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,108 ✭✭✭Christy42


    blinding wrote: »
    The Country that produced FFG are in no position to criticise the political parties in other Countries. People in Glass Houses should not Throw Stones ! !

    Ah yes the you are not allowed talk a out the UK in the UK thread defense.

    I feel like you know something doesn't have a great defense if the best defense is you are not allowed talk about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    blinding wrote: »
    The Country that produced FFG are in no position to criticise the political parties in other Countries. People in Glass Houses should not Throw Stones ! !


    How do you think that the average British person feels about their Prime Minister having to be ordered what to do by his French counterpart? Like a truculent schoolboy being told to do his homework by his father.

    All he needed to do was to act a little sooner. It would have been better for the population. It would have been better for us too. Not only Cheltenham.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Whether its covid,brexit,importing British cars or any number of subjects there are an astonishing array of mainly anti British threads here on boards,which is fine except when the main contributors take offense when a British person has the audacity to challenge them- This isn't an attempt to stifle discussion by the way,reading different points of view is good although the thought that there are some here with an agenda lingers.
    I enjoy boards because I'm interested in Ireland and it's people-I don't come here to slag it off.

    Really?

    You bristle and take umbrage at the slightest disagreement and run away with your tail between your legs.

    Just yesterday you landed in the Irish reunification thread and had a go at us for "refuelling u boats". Something which any intelligent and unbiased person would know is a nonsense and has been long disproven. Even by British commanders.

    So, care to revise your post there?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    How do you think that the average British person feels about their Prime Minister having to be ordered what to do by his French counterpart? Like a truculent schoolboy being told to do his homework by his father.

    All he needed to do was to act a little sooner. It would have been better for the population. It would have been better for us too. Not only Cheltenham.
    Have you a Link for Macron ordering Britain and its Prime Minister to close it Pubs ? ?

    One assumes Macron is concentrating on running his own Country at this time . Ok, he fancies himself as the next little napoleon but that is mostly in his bedtime dreams.

    Alas it seems no European Empire for Macron ! Whats the boy to do. Ask Nanny to kiss everything better ! !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Really?

    You bristle and take umbrage at the slightest disagreement and run away with your tail between your legs.

    Just yesterday you landed in the Irish reunification thread and had a go at us for "refuelling u boats". Something which any intelligent and unbiased person would know is a nonsense and has been long disproven. Even by British commanders.

    So, care to revise your post there?


    To be fair to him, I am glad that he is on here so that we can get a glimpse into whatever drives the other side of the argument over there. It makes no sense to us. So we need some people from that viewpoint to come on. I still don't understand it mind, but the poster himself seems decent enough. (I don't say that for some of the others though...but that's just my opinion)


  • Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Interestingly absolutely none of the posters so intensely involved in the UK's response to coronavirus here, and who are so eagerly recording deaths and apparent national humiliations, have anything to say on the much more interesting and informative thread on Sweden's response.

    There do appear to be lots of veterans from brexit threads who spend every post telling each other how stupid / evil the brits are in whatever context or other.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    It really doesn't read like these people have any genuine interest in what is happening. It's just another stick to beat the old enemy with. Ironically you sound like Boris himself having a go at the EU or a Sun reader talking about "the germans" all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    blinding wrote: »
    Have you a Link for Macron ordering Britain and its Prime Minister to close it Pubs ? ?

    One assumes Macron is concentrating on running his own Country at this time . Ok, he fancies himself as the next little napoleon but that is mostly in his bedtime dreams.

    Alas it seems no European Empire for Macron ! Whats the boy to do. Ask Nanny to kiss everything better ! !


    I gave Manny a call last week and he told me. I have a lie detector on my phone in the Oval Office so I know it's true. Oui Oui!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,963 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Interestingly absolutely none of the posters so intensely involved in the UK's response to coronavirus here, and who are so eagerly recording deaths and apparent national humiliations, have anything to say on the much more interesting and informative thread on Sweden's response.

    There do appear to be lots of veterans from brexit threads who spend every post telling each other how stupid / evil the brits are in whatever context or other.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    It really doesn't read like these people have any genuine interest in what is happening. It's just another stick to beat the old enemy with. Ironically you sound like Boris himself having a go at the EU or a Sun reader talking about "the germans" all the time.

    I just laugh at most of them, never left small town Ballygobackwards but m know every tiny detail about what's happening in another country :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Interestingly absolutely none of the posters so intensely involved in the UK's response to coronavirus here, and who are so eagerly recording deaths and apparent national humiliations, have anything to say on the much more interesting and informative thread on Sweden's response.

    There do appear to be lots of veterans from brexit threads who spend every post telling each other how stupid / evil the brits are in whatever context or other.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    It really doesn't read like these people have any genuine interest in what is happening. It's just another stick to beat the old enemy with. Ironically you sound like Boris himself having a go at the EU or a Sun reader talking about "the germans" all the time.


    Perhaps people just aren't as aware of the ins and outs of the Swedish system

    By the same token, there isn't a thread on the political reaction in Thailand.

    Reminds me of the Dara O Briain joke about why he doesn't do jokes about muslims



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I just laugh at most of them, never left small town Ballygobackwards but m know every tiny detail about what's happening in another country :D

    It's called the internet and books.

    You really think that people can only know about a place they live in? What a strange idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    blinding wrote: »
    Have you a Link for Macron ordering Britain and its Prime Minister to close it Pubs ? ?

    One assumes Macron is concentrating on running his own Country at this time . Ok, he fancies himself as the next little napoleon but that is mostly in his bedtime dreams.

    Alas it seems no European Empire for Macron ! Whats the boy to do. Ask Nanny to kiss everything better ! !

    What does any of this crap mean?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    I gave Manny a call last week and he told me. I have a lie detector on my phone in the Oval Office so I know it's true. Oui Oui!
    So no Credible Link for the Nonsense you have been Pedalling on this Thread.:eek:


  • Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perhaps people just aren't as aware of the ins and outs of the Swedish system

    By the same token, there isn't a thread on the political reaction in Thailand.

    Reminds me of the Dara O Briain joke about why he doesn't do jokes about muslims

    If they aren't aware of Sweden's response to the current coronavirus pandemic and they debates around it, then they obviously have zero interest in the actual topic at hand and should do the rest of us a favour and stop posting.

    If they just want to pull their pud thinking about dead brits I would prefer if they did it in private.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    What does any of this crap mean?
    Perhaps read the post from the poster I was questioning before you ejaculate ! !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    To be fair to him, I am glad that he is on here so that we can get a glimpse into whatever drives the other side of the argument over there. It makes no sense to us. So we need some people from that viewpoint to come on. I still don't understand it mind, but the poster himself seems decent enough. (I don't say that for some of the others though...but that's just my opinion)

    You're pretty much spot on there actually. He isn't the worst. He's definitely the most confused.

    What I don't get is the incessant need for posters to defend Britain to the hilt regardless of the circumstances involved, as of it's done timid little benevolent shrew.

    ---

    Regarding Sweden, when they are involved in the partition of my island and continue to be a perfidious actor in Irish life I reckon that's when we'll start giving them as much attention as the right wing nuclear power on our doorstep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Interestingly absolutely none of the posters so intensely involved in the UK's response to coronavirus here, and who are so eagerly recording deaths and apparent national humiliations, have anything to say on the much more interesting and informative thread on Sweden's response.

    There do appear to be lots of veterans from brexit threads who spend every post telling each other how stupid / evil the brits are in whatever context or other.

    Draw your own conclusions.

    It really doesn't read like these people have any genuine interest in what is happening. It's just another stick to beat the old enemy with. Ironically you sound like Boris himself having a go at the EU or a Sun reader talking about "the germans" all the time.

    Have personally posted quite a few times on Sweden thread and observed it quite closely. Correct me if wrong but you may have been poster who claimed people were actually hoping for lots of Swedish people to die, just so to prove a point i suppose. Its just, I'm open to engaging with smart people who obviously know a lot more than me about these things, but you come across as somebody who thinks they know a lot more than they do while making angry rants full of baseless claims about others motives. With all due respect, i dont care for engaging with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    blinding wrote: »
    The Country that produced FFG are in no position to criticise the political parties in other Countries. People in Glass Houses should not Throw Stones ! !
    The UK are on course to be the worst effected country in the world, Brits would be better served looking at the incompetence of the tories


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    blinding wrote: »
    Perhaps read the post from the poster I was questioning before you ejaculate ! !

    The first part of your post was a reasonable request. The rest of it was more anti EU claptrap.

    It kind of ruins the thrust of your first request tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    blinding wrote: »
    Have you a Link for Macron ordering Britain and its Prime Minister to close it Pubs ? ?

    One assumes Macron is concentrating on running his own Country at this time . Ok, he fancies himself as the next little napoleon but that is mostly in his bedtime dreams.

    Alas it seems no European Empire for Macron ! Whats the boy to do. Ask Nanny to kiss everything better ! !
    Yes, the telegraph March 22


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭theological


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    The reason for the late reporting is that the government did not put in place systems that would overcome the issues you mentioned. Excuses yet again.

    As you say, presenting incomplete data, particularly when you don't mention the omissions, is bad data. It was incorrect to state that X was the number that died in the UK today, since they knew it was incomplete. Why did they not state that when presenting?

    No test is better than a bad test isn't that what you agree with? So isn't the same true for incomplete data. Why not state that they couldn't provide data as they didn't have the systems in place? Because, rightly, they would have been asked why they were not putting the resources in place to overcome the issues they faced.

    Instead, it was only after continued questioning that they finally agreed that the daily numbers were incomplete and then went to blame the 'system'.
    The government and the medical officers have been clear that the numbers are the numbers in hospitals at the press briefings and they've explained why the ONS handle the care home deaths.

    It's a pretty good reason. Ensuring the data is accurate is important. I'm not blaming the system. I'm thankful they are taking the time to ensure that the information we receive us correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    I just laugh at most of them, never left small town Ballygobackwards but m know every tiny detail about what's happening in another country :D
    ur funny mate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    blinding wrote: »
    So no Credible Link for the Nonsense you have been Pedalling on this Thread.:eek:
    The telegraph March 22


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    If they aren't aware of Sweden's response to the current coronavirus pandemic and they debates around it, then they obviously have zero interest in the actual topic at hand and should do the rest of us a favour and stop posting.

    If they just want to pull their pud thinking about dead brits I would prefer if they did it in private.


    How do you think that the previous minister for health in Sweden would have done compared to the current one? You know, given bother of their track records?

    Or how the "shadow" health minister might have done things differently.

    You must know their names and their backgrounds?

    Are ya frantically googling for a wikipedia page in English to even tell you their names?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,462 ✭✭✭blinding


    Yes, the telegraph March 22
    Link, Surely you know how to make a link ! !


  • Posts: 1,766 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Regarding Sweden, when they are involved in the partition of my island and continue to be a perfidious actor in Irish life I reckon that's when we'll start giving them as much attention as the right wing nuclear power on our doorstep.

    And there you have it.

    Anyone who thinks this thread is an actual calm and reasoned discussion of "the UK response to Covid-19" is kidding themselves.

    It's actually deeply toxic, xenophobic ****show and everyone involved should be taking a long hard look at themselves.

    I'll leave you all to enjoy it anyway, numbers are out later - hope they go up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Taking the time! Why not put in the resources so that we know the full picture? There are plenty of unemployed people, why not set up a new crisis office to gather all the information together and get it out there.

    You seem to just accept that there was nothing that could be done, sure the whole thing is very complicated and well things take time. They only take time when action is not taken to address the issue.

    What have they done to speed up the process? What areas have they identified as the bottlenecks and what have they done to remove them?

    Who is answerable for not getting the full numbers out?

    And it is all well and good saying the numbers only represent hospitals, but it is that number that is talked about. It is that number that the government are questioned on. They are well aware of it bot being the full number, so why even bother? They have selected a certain part of the total to discuss, with the excuse they they can't comment on the other because they have no idea?

    Are you really ok with them admitting they they are essentially working blind? How can they even attempt to tackle the problem in nursing homes if, after almost 6 weeks, they still haven't any idea?

    This is another area that they have failed to act. This continued excuse that the system is not up to scratch sounds plausible but isn't it their job to get it working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    And there you have it.

    Anyone who thinks this thread is an actual calm and reasoned discussion of "the UK response to Covid-19" is kidding themselves.

    It's actually deeply toxic, xenophobic ****show and everyone involved should be taking a long hard look at themselves.

    I'll leave you all to enjoy it anyway, numbers are out later - hope they go up!

    "I'm taking my ball with me"

    Absolute shambles of a debater.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    And there you have it.

    Anyone who thinks this thread is an actual calm and reasoned discussion of "the UK response to Covid-19" is kidding themselves.

    It's actually deeply toxic, xenophobic ****show and everyone involved should be taking a long hard look at themselves.

    I'll leave you all to enjoy it anyway, numbers are out later - hope they go up!

    Do you think the UK have handled the crisis perfectly and as such are above criticism?


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