Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

khalessi wrote: »

Not forever, but you keep comparing us to the Swedes who socialise differently to us, they are more reserved whereas the Irish like to congregate in large groups. So by extending he knocked gatherings out for 2 bank hoidays and we stll have to get through the June bank holiday.

It will be interesting to compare stats at the end of July.

It could turn out that the majority of our cases and Sweden's cases stem from nursing home patients and front line workers.

The balance of the cases, when you take populations into the equation, will probably be neck and neck.

They have a population of 10 million. ROI population 4.5
cases relative to population are almost neck and neck at the moment.

We can learn a lot from the Swedes.

Their policy of social distancing and keeping an economy mostly running is down to their level of compliance with social distancing.

I don't think we could ever do that unfortunately.

Blueshoe wrote: »

The Us were paying almost 160m until February. Read the paragraph above the chart. Why you went to the picture first is a different story

See that's what you get when you want to go all instant keyboard warrior and don't read amended posts! As for the picture well it paints a thousand words!

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

40% of Swedes live alone.

Sure who would put up with the likes of Kurt Wallander

eddie73 wrote: »

Their policy of social distancing and keeping an economy mostly running is down to their level of compliance with social distancing.

I don't think we could ever do that unfortunately.

Neither do I. We have a different cultural lean to how we work and socialise. And as pointed out by Prof Moriaty 40% of them live alone, so they come to work and go home, litle social interaction.

khalessi wrote: »

Neither do I. We have a different cultural lean to how we work and socialise. And as pointed out by Prof Moriaty 40% of them live alone, so they come to work and go home, litle social interaction.

Here's a piece from the BBC on Sweden

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200328-how-to-self-isolate-what-we-can-learn-from-sweden

Blueshoe wrote: »

The 2020 financial payments have been made already. The Us paid 160 m while the closet figure by another country was Chinas 28.7 million

As the man himself once said "the worst trade deal, in the history of trade deals". Who on earth signs up for these sham deals?

And they would be **** hot at doing an accurate count

Right, so they're hiding 399k+ deaths?

We'll have Sweden, Iowa, Kansas, South Dakota etc. for comparison as well. Presumably you don't think all these places have hidden mass graves.

khalessi wrote: »

Yesss??? Not sure why you highlighted me for this as it does say that Swedes for the most part live alone and employ social distancing more naturally then us bu a small cohort might have parties.

So eh yeah thanks

It's not all about you! Other people read this thread too, you know!

Their policy of social distancing and keeping an economy mostly running is down to their level of compliance with social distancing.

Proof? This is a new assumption glommed from a handy stereotype, with no way for anyone to verify it, but which saves face for many if the lockdown turns out to have been unnecessary.

The walk-back has already begun.

Blueshoe wrote: »

The 2020 financial payments have been made already. The Us paid 160 m while the closet figure by another country was Chinas 28.7 million.

The Us will be back on board next year again and pay the assessed figure of 58 million. Still double China's figure. Or maybe they won't. That's their decision.
Why haven't China upped their payment considering the virus came from there? Surely they have a responsibility too?

The World Health Organization gets 3,000 signals of possible health emergencies per month.(100 per day) After screening they follow up 300 events per month and investigate 30 events per month with boots on the ground. They conduct formal risk assessments on a subset of those health emergencies. Completed assessments are shared with all member states and key operational partners. Assistance is then offered to affected states and rapidly deployed.

All this defense of humankind on a minuscule budget, compared to the 1.8 trillion spent on arms yearly.

The USA was already $200 million in arrears for its agreed contributions to the W.H.O. even before Trump threatened to withdraw funding.

The USA has saved the yearly amount it contributes every 26 days, simply because the W.H.O. has successfully eliminating smallpox from the globe, thus saving the costs of vaccinating children against that lethal disease.

The USA withdrawal of funding to the W.H.O., just as the poorest countries in the world are beginning their epidemics in Africa and South America, is close to being ‘a crime against humanity’.

It is difficult to argue against the proposition that the USA under Trump has become a ‘rogue state’.

Blueshoe wrote: »

The 2020 financial payments have been made already. The Us paid 160 m while the closet figure by another country was Chinas 28.7 million.

The Us will be back on board next year again and pay the assessed figure of 58 million. Still double China's figure. Or maybe they won't. That's their decision.
Why haven't China upped their payment considering the virus came from there? Surely they have a responsibility too?

The Chinese don't claim to be the leader of the free world. Appointing your own country with a title like that carries with it a level of obligation.

There have been complaints that the owner of a large Dublin nursing home failed, for up to a week, to disclose to his staff (many would be agency workers) or family of other residents when the first case(s) was/were suspected/confirmed.

I am unsure if he thought he could keep it under wraps but this obviously meant staff were working normally initially without ppe and spreading the virus both within the nursing home and back at their accommodation (shared rentals and asylum centres) as well as in other nursing homes where the agency staff also work.

Within a number of days, there were clusters in at least three floors of this large purpose built nursing home.

What this guy did was unethical (whilst perhaps not unlawful) and disgraceful, to say the least.