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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #4142
    Michael Dwyer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just watching the 9 news now and what the imf is saying. This could be the worst recession since the 1930s depression.


    I knew this virus is going to be bad and so much more but christ on a bike, facing down the road of a depression as well.


    More history being made here at home with FG and FF looking likely of getting into government together.

    The latter paragraph is the best news of the day. The best option for stable government. We're going to need that.


  • #4143
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    JRant wrote: »
    Unfortunately, due to the backlog in testing and the way the German results have fed into the public domain it is extremely difficult to try and predict anything from the numbers we are seeing. Remembering also that 20% of Irish lab results are also from the backlog.

    Totally agree. I right pigs dinner. I'd still go with the HPSC reports though. They have to attribute the positive cases correctly. Hence there graph doesn't show it decreasing.


  • #4144
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just watching the 9 news now and what the imf is saying. This could be the worst recession since the 1930s depression.


    I knew this virus is going to be bad and so much more but christ on a bike, facing down the road of a depression as well.


    More history being made here at home with FG and FF looking likely of getting into government together.

    I'm not an economist but...
    Business around the world is closed down or in semi hibernation - no one is trading bar essential items (food etc)
    It's not like people are losing their jobs because there is no work - once this is all over things will start to go back to normal, people will still have money, the house they live in, booking holidays, business will start trading again - in fact there may well be a large pool of money to be pumped back in to the economy from all the savings being made at the moment.

    Yeah GDP may go down but it's hardly going to be the worst recession ever - IMF are only thinking of themselves. In fact every few months they seem to come up with a new warning even tho the previous ones never materialised


  • #4145
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    The IMF told the truth today

    Very few comments on here about it

    It's a total disaster
    Yeah, it was shocking actually.
    Was expecting it to be discussed on one of the threads.


  • #4146
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Somewhere way back average of 76 daily was mentioned.

    As many as that? ok


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  • #4147
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    splinter65 wrote: »
    People? What do you think yourself Toby?

    Haha, he got the idea off the CMO. (joke in poor taste I'll admit)


  • #4148
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    As a frontline doctor I must disagree. Compared to what we planned for we are doing very well from a capacity and resources point of view. I'm sure you won't believe me but I have no loyalty to any politician I post my honest views here.
    And thank you for taking the time to post on here.
    Your opinion really does matter to a lot of us.


  • #4149
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Just watching the 9 news now and what the imf is saying. This could be the worst recession since the 1930s depression.


    I knew this virus is going to be bad and so much more but christ on a bike, facing down the road of a depression as well.

    I suggested it a few weeks ago:-

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112904211
    GM228 wrote: »
    Possibly the world's second great depression?


  • #4150
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    smelly sock wrote: »
    No we arent. Please remember that we are probably starting to peak.

    This lockdown over the last 16-17 days will start to be successful. Please dont give up.

    I hope so, the rise in deaths is shocking and sad :(


  • #4151
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    As many as that? ok

    I would have thought that quite low - 2 to 4 people per county per day - births are nearly double that rate.


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  • #4152
    beerguts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭beerguts


    IS there any update regarding the testing backlog. Where is it now in regard to patient samples remaining to be tested? When will it be cleared or if it will be cleared?


  • #4153
    deaglan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭deaglan1


    Deaths/One Million Population for ourselves and near neighbours with similar population densities

    Northern Irl. 65
    Republic 82
    Scotland 112
    Wales 128


    Problem is, what exactly is being recorded??? Here is a very interesting article referring to Northern Ireland that highlights the issues:
    https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/people/new-figures-could-be-true-reflection-covid-19-impact-ni-2537514


  • #4154
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    For those interested I am on approx day 8 now. Feel ok still. Have a cough this evening with a small bit of chestiness to it. Still was able to get out and have a BBQ in the garden this evening. Don't feel normal though. Have a strange detachment and fatigue. I still have no sense of smell. I can't complain given the way some are suffering. I managed a 30 minute work out this morning because I though I was through it, but maybe I am paying for that this evening. Probably wansn't the smartest.


  • #4155
    howareyakid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭howareyakid


    It’s going to be a long road to recovery. Until such time as a vaccine is available - which is to all intents and purposes, a big imponderable - it’s looking like there’ll some form of preventive measures in place. Let’s hope we can keep working to try and flatten the curve.


  • #4156
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Ireland...

    17th in the world for deaths
    20th in the world for cases
    124th in the world for population

    It takes some spinning to put a positive gloss on those shocking figures.

    You might want to in include these while you're at it.

    Now well inside the top 10 for testing rates per million when you exclude territories and micro states. This is going to make the rate of cases seem worse, plenty of less well off countries will have higher rates but but because of a lack resources we will never know how many cases they've had.

    Also as we are including care home deaths of course our death rates are going to be higher than some other countries.


  • #4157
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    howareyakid wrote: »
    It’s going to be a long road to recovery. Until such time as a vaccine is available - which is to all intents and purposes, a big imponderable - it’s looking like there’ll some form of preventive measures in place. Let’s hope we can keep working to try and flatten the curve.

    When we get a decent treatment, earlier than a vaccine, at least people can socialise a bit more in the knowledge that if they fall ill there is something to get.


  • #4158
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    The IMF told the truth today

    Very few comments on here about it

    It's a total disaster

    What did they say? Not a smart question just interested in what they predict...


  • #4159
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    For those interested I am on approx day 8 now. Feel ok still. Have a cough this evening with a small bit of chestiness to it. Still was able to get out and have a BBQ in the garden this evening. Don't feel normal though. Have a strange detachment and fatigue. I still have no sense of smell. I can't complain given the way some are suffering. I managed a 30 minute work out this morning because I though I was through it, but maybe I am paying for that this evening. Probably wansn't the smartest.

    Physician, heal thyself.


  • #4160
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Discussion on Prime Time RTE1 about when a possible relaxation of the rules here will be able to commence.


  • #4161
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    As a frontline doctor I must disagree. Compared to what we planned for we are doing very well from a capacity and resources point of view. I'm sure you won't believe me but I have no loyalty to any politician I post my honest views here.

    Thank You


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  • #4162
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    As many as that? ok

    Actually I did the sums myself now and it seems more in or around 84 - 85 average daily. Changes a bit every year.


  • #4163
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fritzelly wrote: »
    I'm not an economist but...
    Business around the world is closed down or in semi hibernation - no one is trading bar essential items (food etc)
    It's not like people are losing their jobs because there is no work - once this is all over things will start to go back to normal, people will still have money, the house they live in, booking holidays, business will start trading again - in fact there may well be a large pool of money to be pumped back in to the economy from all the savings being made at the moment.

    Yeah GDP may go down but it's hardly going to be the worst recession ever - IMF are only thinking of themselves. In fact every few months they seem to come up with a new warning even tho the previous ones never materialised

    Possibly, but with everything being mostly unknown about this hard to tell.

    If people think there will be a global recession/depression then they will be more likely to hold off on buying anything but essential items, especially if they think that there is a chance that they will be unemployed again or for the first time and will possibly for some time.

    Paying a mortgage etc would be impossible on the standard JSB amount of 203e and given a lot of the "won't someone please think of the economy" posters want this and other benefits cut now or after we are done with this, and the fact that benefits were cut in the last recession, they will need to finance these payments from their savings.


  • #4164
    ihdxwz4a3pem9j
    Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭ihdxwz4a3pem9j


    Kivaro wrote: »
    And thank you for taking the time to post on here.
    Your opinion really does matter to a lot of us.

    I am also a frontline doctor. I think that we are doing a terrific job! I am very proud to be working for the HSE! I have no gripes against the system, nor have I seen anything that was terrible. I do not have any political affiliation. I am simply stating what I see. All levels of the HSE are producing one hell of a response against this virus. Stay safe everybody!


  • #4165
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Seamai wrote: »
    Also as we are including care home deaths of course our death rates are going to be higher than some other countries.

    All countries are (or at least should be) reporting this also, although there appears to be a severe delay in some countries reporting such deaths.


  • #4166
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Class MayDresser wrote: »
    What did they say? Not a smart question just interested in what they predict...

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0414/1130427-imf-expects-world-economy-to-shrink-by-3-this-year/


  • #4167
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Id say Sweden will sky rocket soon. Incredible what they are doing. They didnt learn anything from the brits in relation to hear immunity.

    You spent all morning calling for our current restrictions to be done with and for shops hardware stores etc to be reopened, and you think that they are doing things wrong?


  • #4168
    Vivienne23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Vivienne23


    The IMF are right this is going to be catastrophic economically wise ,

    Consumer confidence will be gone

    Many of the people laid off won’t have a job to go back to

    Many small businesses will close they were just getting over the last recession and this year was going to be the money year where they might make a few bob , they won’t bother reopening cos it’s just not worth the hassle anymore

    The IMF will try and print their way out of this devaluing the euro I see tough times ahead

    But we will get through it once we have our health


  • #4169
    howareyakid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭howareyakid


    Alisa Odd Wasp wrote: »
    I am also a frontline doctor. I think that we are doing a terrific job! I am very proud to be working for the HSE! I have no gripes against the system, nor have I seen anything that was terrible. I do not have any political affiliation. I am simply stating what I see. All levels of the HSE are producing one hell of a response against this virus. Stay safe everybody!

    Keep up the good work!


  • #4170
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,742 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Alisa Odd Wasp wrote: »
    I am also a frontline doctor. I think that we are doing a terrific job! I am very proud to be working for the HSE! I have no gripes against the system, nor have I seen anything that was terrible. I do not have any political affiliation. I am simply stating what I see. All levels of the HSE are producing one hell of a response against this virus. Stay safe everybody!

    I'd add too that the HSE response seems to be the equal of the much vaunted NHS. They are showing they are capable of great professionalism under real pressure.


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  • #4171
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Michael Dwyer wrote: »
    The latter paragraph is the best news of the day. The best option for stable government. We're going to need that.

    For sure. The two of them working together will be the best option going forward. Mm didn't look too impressed though.


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