Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Harry Palmr · 14-04-2020 05:24PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

There was talk of moving patients out of Dublin to ICUs elsewhere in the country.

Indeed, maybe its the number of nursing homes, no idea how many the "east" has but I suppose it's plenty

is_that_so · 14-04-2020 05:25PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

There was talk of moving patients out of Dublin to ICUs elsewhere in the country.

They have a system to deal with that anyway, although it seems they tend to be going to Dublin.

Not in Kansas · 14-04-2020 05:25PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Did you notice the amount of people being interviewed on tv with book shelves behind them. Some of them look like pictures. In this day and age with e-readers why would so many have book shelves or want to look like they have them?

Not a question I expected to find on here, but a distraction none the less.

Almost everyone I know that went down the e-reader route went back to physical books in the end. Some just missed real books. Others didnt bother replacing their first e-reader after it packed in.

I love my bookshelf.

The news of 41 deaths is really sad. I'm checking rip.ie for my region every day for any evidence that it has entered the nursing homes I'm involved with and thankfully it doesn't seem to have so far although it does appear to be in two in my nearest town. I can't imagine how the relatives of nursing home residents feel right now. There is such an air of inevitability about their situation.

Finally, what happens if a large number of people report Gemma's Twitter account? Surely she has to be considered a danger to herself and others at this stage.

Jim_Hodge · 14-04-2020 05:26PM

Gynoid wrote: »

How about you tell me? Do you know anything completely factually about any countries death inclusions? I doubt it, because I would say every country is doing a bit of creative accounting. And no one knows the exact truth. So we can only go on the figures that are admitted. And on that basis our figures are not great. In my opinion. 50% over and above normal daily death rate here compared to any other year. And highly comparable to countries like Italy, France, UK, which have very unpleasant numbers still.

It has been made very clear here that we are counting all covid criteria and other countries have admitted that they aren't.

BanditLuke · 14-04-2020 05:26PM

walshb wrote: »

Just listening to report on the damaged communications mast in Donegal. Serious jail time for these people. A country in the grips of a pandemic, and critical and essential infrastructure being attacked...

Why are they attacking a mast?

stephenjmcd · 14-04-2020 05:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not an IT glitch and not an IT issue. HSE provided incomplete information necessary for script to run correctly. If Dr Tony and co want to call it a testing glitch then so be it. Journalists need to call them out on this.

Not really, I work in IT and that's a scripting issue therefore an IT issue, someone didn't do the QA properly when running through it

Harry Palmr · 14-04-2020 05:28PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Why are they attacking a mast?

Cos they are fecking morons. The work in question was boosting 4G capacity for Letterkenny hospital but obviously that MUST be a lie

Iamabeliever · 14-04-2020 05:29PM

Gael23 wrote: »

That should be 14 days which was Easter Sunday so we should be seeing results

Unfortunately you are incorrect Gael..

14-04-2020 05:29PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

It has been made very clear here that we are counting all covid criteria and other countries have admitted that they aren't.

Has it?

Doctors room ghost · 14-04-2020 05:30PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They have a system to deal with that anyway, although it seems they tend to be going to Dublin.

That is happening.uchg getting pts from Dublin

Iamabeliever · 14-04-2020 05:31PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

It has been made very clear here that we are counting all covid criteria and other countries have admitted that they aren't.

I wouldn't be too quick to put Ireland on a pedestal

fr336 · 14-04-2020 05:31PM

These 5G coronavirus people really are geniuses aren't they...you'd get more out of the sheep in the fields.

con747 · 14-04-2020 05:32PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Why are they attacking a mast?

They think 5G is the cause of the virus:rolleyes:

Gynoid · 14-04-2020 05:33PM

Nonoperational wrote: »

Multiplying our figure by 12 isn’t a reasonable thing to do though. Almost 2 million people live in the greater Dublin area.

This disease doesn’t respect boundaries. Compare Dublin to a pocket of a few million elsewhere to get a fairer comparison. Parts of a country with huge populations not affected at all skew it to the extent comparisons per million are not at all useful.

I accept so that it is not a good thing to do so, for the reason you give, although I think people are somewhat fooled by numbers like 30 and 40 when they hear 400, 500, 600 elsewhere, and think we are doing okay. I do not think we are doing that great with a 50% increase on a normal daily death rate when covid was not here. Must admit the figures look bad enough to me. The cases rate I do not pay attention to as it seems to be undoubtedly incorrect but the death numbers are quite large and sad for a small country with a low density of population. In my opinion.

fritzelly · 14-04-2020 05:33PM

con747 wrote: »

They think 5G is the cause of the virus:rolleyes:

Blame the Chinese for this one - they started it (the rumour that is as well as the virus)

branie2 · 14-04-2020 05:33PM

Conspiracy theory area there

14-04-2020 05:35PM

Haven't listened to the press conference for two or three weeks, but tuned in now. The value of it really has gone downhill

threeball · 14-04-2020 05:35PM

con747 wrote: »

They think 5G is the cause of the virus:rolleyes:

I thought they were saying the virus was a hoax to cover up that 5G is killing people on its rollout. Either way its crazy as ****.

Achasanai · 14-04-2020 05:35PM

Laois_Man wrote: »

If you multiply our death toll by 12, it's still less than 5,000, which is....

40% of the UK's toll
Less than a third of France's
Less than a quarter of Italy's

I'd imagine the stage (in relation to the first reported death) would be an important factor (and that would only be if comparisons in and of themselves are valid). We seem to be behind the 'big' countries in terms of deaths, but ahead of countries like US/Portugal/Austria/Germany.

Not in Kansas wrote: »

Not a question I expected to find on here, but a distraction none the less.

Almost everyone I know that went down the e-reader route went back to physical books in the end. Some just missed real books. Others didnt bother replacing their first e-reader after it packed in.

I still use both. Ereaders are great for the big tomes as well as getting out-of-copyright classics for free, but I much prefer reading a physical book. Far cheaper for the most part too.

AlmightyCushion · 14-04-2020 05:35PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not really, I work in IT and that's a scripting issue therefore an IT issue, someone didn't do the QA properly when running through it

It's impossible to say either way. It could be that the requirements were wrong and the developer/QA team did what was asked of them. It also could be that the requirements were correct and this was a mistake by the dev/QA team. We don't have enough information to say either way.

Ace2007 · 14-04-2020 05:36PM

Not in Kansas wrote: »

The news of 41 deaths is really sad. I'm checking rip.ie for my region every day for any evidence that it has entered the nursing homes I'm involved with and thankfully it doesn't seem to have so far although it does appear to be in two in my nearest town. I can't imagine how the relatives of nursing home residents feel right now. There is such an air of inevitability about their situation.

Finally, what happens if a large number of people report Gemma's Twitter account? Surely she has to be considered a danger to herself and others at this stage.

What you mean nursing homes you involved with?

Jim_Hodge · 14-04-2020 05:36PM

Gael23 wrote: »

With restrictions in place why are deaths still rising? We are past 14 days since they were introduced

You really don't get what the restrictions are designed to do, do you? This is here for the long run. Restrictions are to keep the pressure on the health service at a manageable level. Plus people can take weeks to show symptoms and may be hospitalised for many weeks as medical staff try to save their lives. Unfortunately, even when new cases start to fall, the death rate will continue to climb.

The notion some people have that, after a few weeks of restrictions, all this will be behind us needs to be knocked on the head and a dose of reality administered.

wakka12 · 14-04-2020 05:36PM

1% of the population of New York has now tested positive for COVID
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/g19r6z/a_stunning_1_in_100_new_york_residents_have_now/

stephenjmcd · 14-04-2020 05:37PM

https://twitter.com/datavizireland/status/1250114533697490946?s=19

https://twitter.com/datavizireland/status/1250114268835577857?s=19

Both good stats again. People need to look beyond the case numbers and actually look at the statistics behind the figures.

Jim_Hodge · 14-04-2020 05:38PM

Iamabeliever wrote: »

I wouldn't be too quick to put Ireland on a pedestal

Not trying to, but people need to see the reality behind the figures.

lbj666 · 14-04-2020 05:38PM

ShayNanigan wrote: »

Anyone know anything more about this one?

HSE not going ahead with purported €7.4 million deal for 350 ventilators, High Court told

No explanation on why this was cancelled. I can understand it though if they found a source for them closer to home (ventilators made in Ireland or elsewhere in Europe), at better price or if the order arriving might have taken too long. Still, some sort of clarification would be nice. Now the article makes it sound like there won't be more ventilators for you and that's it.

Entirely guessing here, but public procurement is an absolute nightmare a the best of times.
If supplier agreements/contracts/frameworks weren't written with provisions for such an unprecedented emergency demand (whereby you can buy off whoever can supply them quickest) it can lead an absolute legal minefield.

I dunno where this company falls sides in all that though.

Iamabeliever · 14-04-2020 05:38PM

Looking good in terms of tests completed -

Well done HSE

is_that_so · 14-04-2020 05:41PM

Don't know if this has been posted but a positive for remdesivir.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200413144055.htm

niallo27 · 14-04-2020 05:42PM

How long before we become completed decentized to the numbers dead. For me its just a number I wait to check every day. Crazy the way it ****s with your head.

ixoy · 14-04-2020 05:42PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

The notion some people have that, after a few weeks of restrictions, all this will be behind us needs to be knocked on the head and a dose of reality administered.

As does the notion that it's feasible to have a lockdown until a vaccine is found.

To be fair, Harris has indicated that it'll be a gradual rollback and for nobody to expect a complete rollback. He's preparing people.

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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