Recommend a running shoe

OOnegative wrote: »

Yeah, in your blinkered opinion.

Fair enough.

At last count, the following shoes have been "recommended" by people here:

Nike Presto
Saucony Grid 13
Asics Dynaflyte and Evoride
Nike Pegasus
Saucony Iso 2 and Iso 5
Brooks (any or all I assume)
New Balance Beacon
Hoka Clifton 6

What do you suggest he do - buy them all?

Or should he borrow my blinkers and stick a pin?

Swashbuckler wrote:

Nah just buy one and see how it goes.... And hope his legs don't fall off.

Which one?

KSU wrote: »

Just to elaborate on my Brooks “recommendation” try re read it.

As many others have said (funnily enough seems to be a common trend in the posters with qualifications and a background in sports injuries and biomechanics in this thread) comfort should be the guide and the cross over between Asics and heavier Brooks models (ghost and Ravenna ) in terms of style so more likely to be a similar fit to that OP is currently in.

Aside from that posters are making recommendations (presumably based on there own preferences) much like shops will. The only difference is shops probably have more retail experience with brand differences. There is no science to support from an injury prevention perspective despite some claims made so from that perspective the only advantage to in shop recommendations is they know which brands are similar to match preference,

Best advice the OP can get is look to recommendations coming from people who have transitioned from a similar type of shoe to the OP

I read what you said about Brooks.

Of course comfort is a guide; the question is how to assess that before you use them. Trying shoes on in a shop will simply help you see if they fit. It won't tell you how comfortable your feet will be in them on a long run. A bit of gait analysis will - and a proper running shoes shop will do that properly.

I'm glad you mentioned some connection to the OP. Most of the suggestions here haven't.

KSU wrote: »

In your opinion*

Many disagree with you and have explained why and backed it up with numerous links provided as starting point.

Well worth reading into the area of kinesiology If you are interested happy to provide some good reads

So there nothing the OP can do, other than qualify in kinesiology, ask people on Boards what they wear, or just take pot luck?

I'll bet he is sorry he asked.

First Up wrote: »

So there nothing the OP can do, other than qualify in kinesiology, ask people on Boards what they wear, or just take pot luck?

I'll bet he is sorry he asked.

I bet he is sorry alright, a chap asks for a recommendation for a show to go out running because he absolutely cannot go to a shop and try anything on and some crank on the internet suggests he’ll be doing irreparable damage to himself and should wait for months before he can go to a shop in New York that has a podiatrist on the staff,

First Up wrote: »

So there nothing the OP can do, other than qualify in kinesiology, ask people on Boards what they wear, or just take pot luck?

I'll bet he is sorry he asked.

They can start a thread looking for recommendations and give parameters such as price etc and not worry about “the wrong shoes” ....... Oh wait.........

On a more serious note the gear and equipment sub thread has a lot of info and recommendations

First Up wrote: »

I'm not in New York but don't let your confusion distract you from missing everything else too.

Yawn!!!!

First Up wrote: »

Did he say not to worry about the "wrong shoes" or did you just make that up?

The Gear and Equipment thread is good, as long as you don't mind people talking about gait analysis and rubbish like that.

I said it because there is no such thing outside of a comfort perspective but that comes under the common sense school of thought.

As for your second point spot on unless you are getting a proper gait analysis from someone qualified in analysing biomechanics and kinesiology but that is not something shoe shops are able to provide (nor would I expect them to Tbh)

Anyway chief I’m out even as a track runner there is only so many time’s I can keep going around in circles

First Up wrote:

I think differently and have the feet to prove it.

And I'd gamble that after buying whatever runners the OP buys, he will most likely have the same outcome too.

First Up wrote:

An unnecessary gamble but there ya go.

Very necessary given the current situation.

Swashbuckler wrote:

Very necessary given the current situation.

Don't agree.

For a start, he doesn't have to buy immediately. He has shoes to run in; he can wait until shops re-open.

If he still wants to buy before that, he can do some proper research to help him identify the shoe type that best suits him. That may not be perfect but it will be more useful than a list of shoes worn by people he knows nothing about and who know nothing about him.

Swashbuckler wrote:

Just for the OP this is a nice summary of the recommendations that people have had positive experiences with.

And he has no way of knowing if those positive experiences are for 50 kilo sub 3 hour marathon pronators or 90 kilo flat footed waddlers who jog a few miles at 10 minute pace.

Ceepo wrote:

Some of us have taken the time to educate ourselves on anatomy and biomechanics have have the ability to critical think.

Does that include the ability to adapt your biomechanics to whatever shoe you happen to be wearing?

First Up wrote: »

Does that include the ability to adapt your biomechanics to whatever shoe you happen to be wearing?

I'm certainly not going to elaborate down the biomechanics rabbit hole with you.

But just to say that change and adaptability is a good thing. It can help to neurological stimulate muscles. One of the most common causes of injury for runners is from overuse. The same muscle doing the same thing over and over again.

This is why that running off road and grass or even doing a few runs barefoot helps to stave of injury.

If I have a client that has some biomechanical issue, this includes fallen arch etc. I would look to correct that by muscle activation and gait retraining. By putting them in a shoe or orthotics you will only serve to further inhibit muscles. ..

Anyway as I said.. I'll leave you to it..

First Up wrote: »

As a matter of interest, how long do muscle activation and gait retraining take to effect change and how much change is achieved? Has it been measured?

And is shoe type completely irrelevant to and independent from this? Do you advise on shoes at all or can improvement be achieved while wearing anything?

I work with all types of people from stroke patients to Gaa, Rubgy players, race walkers to athletes, 2 of which are current National record holders, As you can appreciate with a wide variety of clients there is NO set time frame, there can't be due to the many variables such as the work load and time the clients ACTUALLY put into doing corrective work. Change can be made on an on going basis, because NONE of us will ever get to a perfect gait, even if such thing exist. And we can always benefit from the efficiency gains that can be made.

When I do gait analysis , it's always done without shoes, sure how else would you know how people move, if you wear shoes then the shoes could be masking whats really happening.
No I don't advise on shoes, I give people the knowledge and corrective work to over come movement dysfunction based on what information that is gained from the gait analysis.
The corrective exercise are done without shoes as well, this is to allow the for muscle potential.

While the above doesn't make me a expert, It give's me some small bit of confidence to have a fair idea of what i'm talking about, and maybe just enough knowledge to say that "there is a RIGHT shoe" for your foot type based on in shop gait analysis is nothing more than marketing.