Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Jim_Hodge · 13-04-2020 06:02PM

walshb wrote: »

Percentages going down aside, 500 + new cases is alarming for a small country like ours..

Our level of testing is one of the highest. More testing = more positive cases identified.

Rob A. Bank · 13-04-2020 06:02PM

Must be hard for the 'powers that be' bots/shills to put a positive gloss/spin on 365 deaths and over 10,000 confirmed cases.

But I suppose we should admire them for trying.

13-04-2020 06:02PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

They’re newly diagnosed, what part of that don’t you understand? They SHOULD be included, not all of us are in favour of Chemical Ali type reporting of numbers.

I think you are trying to be Chemical Ali 2. You know perfectly well that the German samples are from historical cases. Yes they should be included in our totals but as regards the ongoing trend they are not only meaningless but distorting.

ArchXStanton · 13-04-2020 06:02PM

"527 more cases of the coronavirus have been diagnosed in the Republic. In addition, there are a further 465 confirmed cases of Covid-19 from the backlog of tests at the laboratory in Germany."

Am I right in thing8ng that's 992 for today?

Itssoeasy · 13-04-2020 06:03PM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

"527 more cases of the coronavirus have been diagnosed in the Republic. In addition, there are a further 465 confirmed cases of Covid-19 from the backlog of tests at the laboratory in Germany."

Am I right in thing8ng that's 992 for today?

No.

JRant · 13-04-2020 06:03PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

He clarified in the press conference that he gave the wrong number in his statement.

Didn't see that. I only read the RTE article with the numbers updated for today on it.

RugbyLad11 · 13-04-2020 06:04PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Do you honestly believe what you are typing? It's been like 2 weeks of restrictions. You can leave your house anytime you want, you can spend all day outside if you want to, it's far from a lockdown, and your very naive if you think that supermarket only place people are out together.

So you're telling me people are breaking the rules? because you're; not supposed to go outside for exercise and gather people from another household.

You're hardly gonna catch something off some one if they are a good distance from you outside.

Do you seriously think it's more risky to catch the virus outside when people are standing well clear of each other? I would think supermarket is the most risky place as it's enclosed with narrow aisles.

Mwengwe · 13-04-2020 06:04PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

But would people like that bother looking for a test, unless they were seriously ill, which you'd imagine most of them wouldn't given the age profile?

I'm living with two people at the moment who I'm utterly convinced will not tell me or isolate themselves if they start having symptoms.

13-04-2020 06:05PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

They’re newly diagnosed, what part of that don’t you understand? They SHOULD be included, not all of us are in favour of Chemical Ali type reporting of numbers.

All cases should be reported on the day the result is known, for the day the test was taken

crossman47 · 13-04-2020 06:05PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Might have something to do with the CMO not ordering lockdowns in nursing homes.

Or might have more to do with staff bringing it in

rodders999 · 13-04-2020 06:05PM

easypazz wrote: »

No.

Care to expand on how social distancing measures can be implemented in a hotel?

Or a pub?

13-04-2020 06:07PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

You want Dubliners to live, fair play.

Blow all the bridges on the M50 and setup an escape from New York type scenario

Gynoid · 13-04-2020 06:07PM

easypazz wrote: »

No.

I am presuming that you and some of your similarly-minded chaps on here will be chomping at the bit on the very first day restrictions are loosened to slip on your hard hat, hi vis vest and rigger boots, so you can manfully go on out there and share a one metre square and less than salubrious jacks in a welfare cabin with 15 other people, and spend the rest of your working day within hocking distance of your working buddies.
Post pics please!
Or... could it be that you are a white collar worker who can stand back at a goodly safe distance admiring while your beloved economy roars back into action regardless of health and safety? Hmmmmmm....

r93kaey5p2izun · 13-04-2020 06:07PM

easypazz wrote: »

The wait is more 2 days than 2 weeks now.

So they keep saying, yet so many people I know left waiting in the past week. Are you saying that the 500+ Irish results today, for example, represent mostly results from swabs taken in the past 2-3 days?

crossman47 · 13-04-2020 06:08PM

Gynoid wrote: »

It is not good though, is it. Well, just in my opinion. I hope these figures start going down soon. It may not be growth but persistent growth would be unthinkable at this stage . I cannot feel congratulatory that we do not have some kind of wild exponential growth when that would be impossible given our demographics. We are such a low density population. We have serious restrictions - supposedly. For a fair while now. And yet we have this persistence of numbers that are not great. About 40% extra on normal death numbers in a day any other year. I don't know what it is like in towns and cities, out here in the boonies it is silent, no cars, if you meet someone walking on the road we are backing up into gateways to give wider berth, the village shops are sombre places with people nervously keeping back from each other. Either this virus is bloody acrobatic or people are not staying at home somewhere.

We are low density overall but not in Dublin and that appears to be where we have trouble

JP Liz V1 · 13-04-2020 06:08PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Liz there may be no decrease for 3 months - people need to understand that this will be very slow process. No point coming on here day after day wondering why no decrease.

I guess maybe my understanding of flattening the curve is wrong as with lockdown restrictions I was expecting decreasing positive cases and less deaths by now but from what I see both are still high in numbers and we haven't hit the peak surge

3 outbreaks in prison yet we were told they were case free previously

Sober Crappy Chemis · 13-04-2020 06:08PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Must be hard for the 'powers that be' bots/shills to put a positive gloss/spin on 365 deaths and over 10,000 confirmed cases.

But I suppose we should admire them for trying.

Ah, the crazies have arrived so, I must away now, I can no longer tarry.....

Cork Boy 53 · 13-04-2020 06:08PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Just on the idiots that went to Cheltenham.
I've now heard of three who came back and went straight back to work and a days later had symptoms and ended up being tested and confirmed cases.
Those guys should be sacked imo. I don't care how good they are at their jobs, they are potentially responsible for some innocent person dying. There should be no job for anybody like that.

I agree with what you are saying but unfortunately that horse has long since bolted from the stable. Same story with the people who went on ski trips to Italy, the Italian rugby supporters who travelled to Dublin and the ones who went to the Liverpool-Atletico Madrid CL match. We are where we are.

smurgen · 13-04-2020 06:08PM

Rest in peace to those that have died. I hope to God we've come to the peak of this. I still cannot get my head around gatherings like Cheltenham. The organisers have blood on their hands as far as I'm concerned.

13-04-2020 06:09PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Ireland has now moved up to no.7 in the world for cases per capita (excluding micro states)

And where do we rank at testing levels, excluding micro-states?

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2020 06:09PM

Brody Wailing Canoeist wrote: »

So they keep saying, yet so many people I know left waiting in the past week. Are you saying that the 500+ Irish results today, for example, represent mostly results from swabs taken in the past 2-3 days?

The majority of the Irish lab cases are realistically from the last 10 days, meaning they're likely still active unless some of them had miraculous recoveries. The German cases are up to 30 days + ago.

13-04-2020 06:09PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

But where are people getting the virus in the first place? it can't magically transport to your home. Everything else is closed so they must be catching it in the supermarket.

Up to 14 days incubation. All our contacts circles are a lot smaller. Could still take over a month to to spread within these clusters

ACitizenErased · 13-04-2020 06:10PM

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1249761656181116928?s=20

Just Saying · 13-04-2020 06:11PM

coastwatch wrote: »

The backlog of 11000 tests is expected to be cleared some time this week.
80% of these are being done by the German lab.

When the backlog is cleared, they will be using the German lab for ongoing current testing, so at that stage the German lab results can be included in the growth rate calculation.

I wonder at what number of days old are returns from German tests relevant to current figures and therefore included the same as Irish lab results.

Also with 20% of the backlog not sent to Germany it would appear that this 20% of results is included in Irish new cases ...this could be partially responsible for some of the increase in Irish new cases.

The increase in new cases could also be as a result of additional lab capacity coming on stream.

I think the constraints caused by the lab capacity and the subsequent huge backlog have rendered comparisons and growth rates of new cases virtually impossible to compare accurately day on day.

Mwengwe · 13-04-2020 06:11PM

Redo91 wrote: »

The Irish Times need to be clearer on how they are reporting their figures. I got an awful fright when I got the notification on my phone that there were 992 new cases when in reality it’s 527. The additional 465 are tests sent to Germany which are weeks old and many of those would now be recovered. It’s very misleading to include the two together and make it seem like they are all new cases. The German cases are old.

The figures are misleading in general by that logic. They're a reflection of the virus being spread 2,3 even 4 weeks ago. If you want 'new cases' you'd need a crystal ball.

RugbyLad11 · 13-04-2020 06:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Up to 14 days incubation. All our contacts circles are a lot smaller. Could still take over a month to to spread within these clusters

That's true but that is max incubation period, I think the avg is about 3 to 6

crossman47 · 13-04-2020 06:12PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Reporters asking about lifting restrictions. They need to stop with that. We are reaching the peak not the time for that

Holohan has the patience of a saint. They're just trying to get him to say something that will give them a headline. I heard him say he will be looking at some data tonight so his day isn't finished and he has to put up with that rubbish.

r93kaey5p2izun · 13-04-2020 06:12PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The majority of the Irish lab cases are realistically from the last 10 days, meaning they're likely still active unless some of them had miraculous recoveries. The German cases are up to 30 days + ago.

Up to 30 days ago. Ok. But many are actually only 15/16 days old according to people online saying they have received a German result. That's not that different.

Ace2007 · 13-04-2020 06:12PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

So you're telling me people are breaking the rules? because you're; not supposed to go outside for exercise and gather people from another household.

You're hardly gonna catch something off some one if they are a good distance from you outside.

Do you seriously think it's more risky to catch the virus outside when people are standing well clear of each other? I would think supermarket is the most risky place as it's enclosed with narrow aisles.

You say this but the reality is very different - simple example are kids touching the button to cross the road - how many people are touching this, people putting hands of polls outside, gates etc.

Most supermarkets have limits on who gets in, and one person per household. some supermarkets have one way systems to avoid cross overs etc.

RugbyLad11 · 13-04-2020 06:13PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1249761656181116928?s=20

It's like the smear test scandal all over again, can the HSE do anything right??

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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