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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #2912
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Just so I'm clear. The positive cases today is 527 and 31 deaths ? The German results aren't from the last 24 hours and would slot in to the other positive totals we've had back along but the number of positive cases confirmed is correct as of today with just a lag from the German lab results ?


  • #2913
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Michael Dwyer wrote: »
    From a layman's point of view I don't get this.

    Cases have been going up from the 200s, 300s, 400s into the 500s over the last 3 weeks. Deaths have gone up where most days they are 25-36. I can't fathom that beautiful chart with ICU admission increases plummeting. If it's true great. But something doesn't add up, even with so many of our deaths in nursing homes.

    RIP to all.
    I think it indicates that, outside of nursing homes, the average age of those infected is quite low.


  • #2914
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,148 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    We've been in a lockdown for so long so and the only place people could catch it is a supermarket! Staff in supermarket have the screen protecting them anyway and I saw most staff in my local aldi wearing masks too

    I would say a lot of new case are unfortunately health care workers and residential care homes. They account for the majority of the clusters being reported and going by the updated testing requirements are about the only ones who would get their results back in less than 2 weeks anyway.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #2915
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Just so I'm clear. The positive cases today is 527 and 31 deaths ? The German results aren't from the last 24 hours and would slot in to the other positive totals we've had back along but the number of positive cases confirmed is correct as of today with just a lag from the German lab results ?
    Yes. The German cases are included in the total, but not 'new'. They could've occurred anywhere up to 3/4 weeks ago and the majority of which are probably recovered.


  • #2916
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Any indication of how much of a backlog there still is from the German lab tests?


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  • #2917
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Any indication of how much of a backlog there still is from the German lab tests?

    11000


  • #2918
    Peanut Butter Jelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭Peanut Butter Jelly


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    If people are recovering after avg 10 days, lets say, what's the rolling 10 day growth chart like?

    Here you go. It would be under 10% since the 7th of April (9.7%)

    509437.png


  • #2919
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭poppers


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Any indication of how much of a backlog there still is from the German lab tests?

    Backlog of 11000 80% of them are being tested in Germany


  • #2920
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,612 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Michael Dwyer wrote: »
    From a layman's point of view I don't get this.

    Cases have been going up from the 200s, 300s, 400s into the 500s over the last 3 weeks. Deaths have gone up where most days they are 25-36. I can't fathom that beautiful chart with ICU admission increases plummeting. If it's true great. But something doesn't add up, even with so many of our deaths in nursing homes.

    RIP to all.

    it's the percentage increase thats going down, numbers are still going up though


  • #2921
    Redo91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭Redo91


    The Irish Times need to be clearer on how they are reporting their figures. I got an awful fright when I got the notification on my phone that there were 992 new cases when in reality it’s 527. The additional 465 are tests sent to Germany which are weeks old and many of those would now be recovered. It’s very misleading to include the two together and make it seem like they are all new cases. The German cases are old.


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  • #2922
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Michael Dwyer wrote: »
    From a layman's point of view I don't get this.

    Cases have been going up from the 200s, 300s, 400s into the 500s over the last 3 weeks. Deaths have gone up where most days they are 25-36. I can't fathom that beautiful chart with ICU admission increases plummeting. If it's true great. But something doesn't add up, even with so many of our deaths in nursing homes.

    RIP to all.

    People can die before getting to ICU, and not everyone dying is getting to hospital


  • #2923
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    it's the percentage increase thats going down, numbers are still going up though
    You could argue that numbers have not changed dramatically in the last week. They seem quite stagnant.


  • #2924
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    it's the percentage increase thats going down, numbers are still going up though

    ICU numbers are not growing rapidly, that's the point. They're very very steady at the moment.


  • #2925
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,052 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Yes there is. We've flattened it considerably.

    How no decrease in numbers by now so?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #2926
    Princess Calla
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,396 ✭✭✭Princess Calla


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Then the coffee shop or the beach, or the Wicklow mountains as a lycra clad virus spreader spits into the wilderness. The only place where the public are mixing are supermarkets, where else could it be spreading, outside healthcare settings?

    Ah come on now!

    There are many, many people breaking the restrictions.

    One of my neighbours in her 70's, her daughter arrives with her kids, the ex husband will rock in to the house too (he doesn't live alone either) so there's 3 households converging in one house.

    I sincerely doubt this is the only household doing this.

    So while the majority will obey the rules you will always have people who think they are above it all.


  • #2927
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    How no decrease in numbers by now so?
    Was explained on here yesterday, growth rate decreasing =/= numbers decreasing. When the growth rate drops below 1% numbers begin to decrease. We're on about 4/5% based on today's numbers.


  • #2928
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »
    Here you go. It would be under 10% since the 7th of April (9.7%)

    509437.png

    Interesting, thanks. Not certain, but seems like that is a more realistic measure than total case daily growth.


  • #2929
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭poppers


    Quantum Erasure wrote: »
    it's the percentage increase thats going down, numbers are still going up though

    If we only get 1 new case a day numbers will still go up.


  • #2930
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Was explained on here yesterday, growth rate decreasing =/= numbers decreasing. When the growth rate drops below 1% numbers decrease. We're on about 4/5% based on today's numbers.

    Don't waste your time. Talking to a fcucking wall.


  • #2931
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Yes. The German cases are included in the total, but not 'new'. They could've occurred anywhere up to 3/4 weeks ago and the majority of which are probably recovered.

    I said I asked because I got a text message off my mother saying there was nearly a 1,000 new confirmed cases and I just checking here if what I'd said to her was correct. That number will catch people's eye and worry people.


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  • #2932
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I said I asked because I got a text message off my mother saying there was nearly a 1,000 new confirmed cases and I just checking here if what I'd said to her was correct. That number will catch people's eye and worry people.
    It will indeed yes. That's why the CMO reported the numbers seperately all along, and then the Press threw a hissy-fit because they didn't have the IQ to understand.


  • #2933
    Speak Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,764 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    They’re newly diagnosed, what part of that don’t you understand? They SHOULD be included, not all of us are in favour of Chemical Ali type reporting of numbers.

    Comical Ali! Chemical Ali was a different guy :D


  • #2934
    poppers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭poppers


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I said I asked because I got a text message off my mother saying there was nearly a 1,000 new confirmed cases and I just checking here if what I'd said to her was correct. That number will catch people's eye and worry people.
    There was an overall 1500 increase on thursday or friday when all german results were added.


  • #2935
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/13/experts-divided-comparison-uk-ireland-coronavirus-record

    Excellent article rebutting people comparing the U.K to the Irish response.

    Brief points more people in uk living in urban areas, more people over 65 and earlier infections.


  • #2936
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,461 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Percentages going down aside, 500 + new cases is alarming for a small country like ours..


  • #2937
    rodders999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭rodders999


    Social distancing measures needing to be continued right up until a vaccine is found means pubs, restaurants, hotels, playground etc. will continue to be shut for another 12 months minimum then?


  • #2938
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    When were all these tests sent to Germany like? Was it just one enormous batch all sent in one go? And were the results all received in one go and are just being randomly sprinkled in with the daily totals now?


  • #2939
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,505 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Just on the idiots that went to Cheltenham.
    I've now heard of three who came back and went straight back to work and a days later had symptoms and ended up being tested and confirmed cases.
    Those guys should be sacked imo. I don't care how good they are at their jobs, they are potentially responsible for some innocent person dying. There should be no job for anybody like that.


  • #2940
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Given so many people are waiting 2 weeks to get a result - that seems to be the standard wait time- is there really much difference in the "age" of the German lab positives versus the "age" of the Irish lab positives? Many people online over the past few days stating they had just received results from Germany with swabs taken on 25/26th March. Is that really so much "older" than the Irish results that we can consign them to not being relevant to monitoring progression of the virus?


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  • #2941
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    wakka12 wrote: »
    When were all these tests sent to Germany like? Was it just one enormous batch all sent in one go? And were the results all received in one go and are just being randomly sprinkled in with the daily totals now?
    They're being reported seperately yet there's people who don't understand what you've just said (ie the press) reporting it as one whole number, which is completely wrong.


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