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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Testing is a shambles wait ten days for a test and another ten for results that’s nearly a month to know whether u had it or not and then try and trace who you’ve been in contact with...

    Testing is a shambles, but it should make no difference to your behaviour. Even before the lockdown, the advice was very clear - if you have symptoms, self-isolate.

    There is no treatment, so getting the diagnosis actually makes shag all difference if you’ve got mild symptoms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    I’m sorry now but that mans off his head if he thinks people are going to carry on like this for 3 years.
    Three weeks more will be the most that people are going to be able to take of this.

    We have to get back to some sort of reality.How can we continue this way.

    We don’t know how many have it throughout the country , Testing is a shambles wait ten days for a test and another ten for results that’s nearly a month to know whether u had it or not and then try and trace who you’ve been in contact with...

    We still have people coming into the country for god sake.

    The experts can give there opinions from their studies of what we need to do in an ideal scenario

    That’s their expertise and yes they may be right but there will be nothing left here if we continue this indefinitely.

    How long can we foot the bill for this so called lockdown.

    Lots of questions, no answers. Well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    easypazz wrote: »
    So far 1 in 15000 have died, man of them elderly in nursing homes, or with underlying conditions.

    In 19 days we need to move on.

    When you can point me to a country that approach is working out well for, I’ll give your theory some credence.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    McConkey is loving his day in the sun, his minor celeb status.. I don't doubt his expertise to an extent but he loves to cause a big head line.

    How does the daily death rate stack up against our normal daily death rate of say deaths associated with respiratory difficulty, sudden adult death syndrome, heart attacks, underlying issues, Undiagnosed underlying issues.

    I am wondering how many are happening as we speak and being thrown into the "complication related to" corona virus..without a test to prove it, the person is dead and buried and thrown into the red category.. This is what I'd like to see.
    COPD and pneumonia kill over 2500 people in Ireland per year. Very easy to call that Covid-19 in the untested I think. c

    I just question the numbers with so many untested and assumed to be death by Covid 19

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/deaths-ireland-causes-disease-cancer-5494134


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    easypazz wrote: »
    In 19 days we need to move on.

    Move on to what may I ask ?

    Shin


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    KiKi III wrote: »
    When you can point me to a country that approach is working out well for, I’ll give your theory some credence.

    I am not suggesting complete back to normal immediately, but restrictions will have to start to ease in 19 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    I’m sorry now but that mans off his head if he thinks people are going to carry on like this for 3 years.
    Three weeks more will be the most that people are going to be able to take of this.

    We have to get back to some sort of reality.How can we continue this way.

    We don’t know how many have it throughout the country , Testing is a shambles wait ten days for a test and another ten for results that’s nearly a month to know whether u had it or not and then try and trace who you’ve been in contact with...

    We still have people coming into the country for god sake.

    The experts can give there opinions from their studies of what we need to do in an ideal scenario

    That’s their expertise and yes they may be right but there will be nothing left here if we continue this indefinitely.

    How long can we foot the bill for this so called lockdown.
    i wonder how many will be screaming murderers on government once the 350e wont be paid anymore and people told to go back to jobs which probably dont exist anymore, yet virus will be rampant and here to stay, as vaccine seems unlikely for years, if ever at all. and it will be here 3weeks or 3 months later anyway, as there's no scenario even with most brutal lockdowns some wet themselves here, that we will last even a week before few cases spark up and this $hit show will be on again in no time, will government foot another 350 for months or a years time, just to keep everyone isolated - dont think so, but imagine government will struggle when they will need to tell people to get out there as they wont foot the bill anymore to let people sit at home, and that will be the interesting part to see how those curtain twitching with hysteria will cope then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    easypazz wrote: »
    I am not suggesting complete back to normal immediately, but restrictions will have to start to ease in 19 days.

    Or what?

    I imagine they will be eased somewhat in 19 days but realistically what’s going to happen if not? Some more giving out on Boards?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    shinzon wrote: »
    Move on to what may I ask ?

    Shin

    Move on from a full lockdown which will lead to total economic collapse and possibly way more dead than we will save.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    easypazz wrote: »
    Move on from a full lockdown which will lead to total economic collapse and possibly way more dead than we will save.

    Can you point to a country that has done this successfully?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    easypazz wrote: »
    In 19 days we need to move on.

    To coincide exactly with the probable peak in cases/deaths?

    No comprendo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    Lots of questions, no answers. Well done.

    Do you think Leo and the government or the advisory committee have the answers either ?

    I don’t think they do to be honest. It’s a very difficult situation for everyone but if you think this can continue indefinitely with two week extensions it simply cannot

    We need a plan not a make up as you go along scenario.

    We’re going to have to open up at some point and the virus is still going to be here and all this lockdown will have been generally pointless.

    I’m sorry but that’s my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,800 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    fritzelly wrote: »
    That's some extrapolation - they could all be from one area - we don't have the facts to assume anything

    BTW there are 18 under 1's confirmed and 22 1 to 4 year olds

    Did you read the post I replied to??


    “Several babies in Kildare have tested positive for Covid 19.

    Nationally, 16 babies have tested positive and over half of cases are in Dublin.

    Cork, Kildare, Wicklow and Meath have the highest number after that.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,463 ✭✭✭shinzon


    easypazz wrote: »
    Move on from a full lockdown which will lead to total economic collapse and possibly way more dead than we will save.

    It will only ever be lifted gradually when the numbers show a steady and noteable decline and they keep declining and only then, no point in saying right lads well lift these restrictions just because MONEY and the numbers shoot up again and we go back into lockdown. Slow and steady is the way to go and any easing of restrictions if indeed that comes after the 5th of May will be minimal at best.

    Shin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,116 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    easypazz wrote: »
    Move on from a full lockdown which will lead to total economic collapse and possibly way more dead than we will save.

    Obviously everyone wants that but at the same time we have to be realistic.

    There is not going to be "normal" in 19 days no matter what happens.

    Getting in to endless cycles of opening up and shutting down would be even worse and drain people's confidence and understanding even more.

    We have to wait until we have a good testing and isolation regime in place otherwise what is this all for?


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    KiKi III wrote: »
    The word fearmongering has been thrown around a lot the last few weeks but this post is the absolute height of it.

    Where in the name of Beyoncé did you get the idea that doctors are going to stop treating cancer patients?

    I personally know one person who has had their treatment suspended. I also work in medical device industry and know for a fact that 75% of elective and 30% of essential procedures have been stopped, globally . That’s going to result in a lot of problem long term


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Longing


    Singapore confirms a sharp rise in new infections. The last 4 days has seen the highest daily cases. Singapore is struggling against a new wave of infections not linked to previous victims of the disease. Singapore was the leading country in measures taking to be ahead of this pandemic. Interesting read below:


    "Prof Fisher says Singapore actually acted far earlier than other countries, while case numbers were still only just above 100 daily.

    But for a lockdown to be effective, he says, three things need to happen. Firstly for transmission to stop - which will happen if everyone stays home. Then the healthcare system needs the time and space to recover - for beds to be freed up, and medical staff to be able to take time off.

    Third is to get all systems in place - all isolation facilities, quarantine capacity, laws, contact tracing.

    If you just do one and two and then you reopen, history is going to repeat, he warns."



    Interesting when he mentioned isolation facilities because I read on Focus China what is planned.

    Also China cases on the increase too. Chinese province plans to add 52,000 quarantine rooms. Everything from China take with a pinch of salt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Is the skin on anyone else's hands peeling off from handwashing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭ihdxwz4a3pem9j


    I personally know one person who has had their treatment suspended. I also work in medical device industry and know for a fact that 75% of elective and 30% of essential procedures have been stopped, globally . That’s going to result in a lot of problem long term

    We are doing all time-critical surgeries (including cancer surgeries) in the hospital. It a person’s condition will deteriorate and cause a significant impact on their health, the surgery is proceeding. There are still theatres running for operations in the hospital every day of the week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Is the skin on anyone else's hands peeling off from handwashing?

    Why would you even need to wash your hands often anyway? We have a lockdown so if you're following it then you shouldn't have to wash them much when at home.

    If you're just sitting in your house all day, you don't need to wash your hands if you move from Kitchen to sitting room.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Why would you even need to wash your hands often anyway? We have a lockdown so if you're following it then you shouldn't have to wash them much when at home.

    If you're just sitting in your house all day, you don't need to wash your hands if you move from Kitchen to sitting room.

    Not everyone is allowed to stay at home. Some people still have a job to go to. Then I'm hyper aware at home too because I live at home. Just in case I pick up the virus out and about and I have it and I don't know about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Is the skin on anyone else's hands peeling off from handwashing?

    No. Apart from normal sanitary requirements, you only need to wash your hands if you have been out shopping or handle something like a package delivered to the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,241 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    doylefe wrote: »
    Saw a rake of people buying Easter eggs yesterday. Hardly essential. One person bought only Easter egg's, so the only reason for traveling was to buy non essential items. Disgraceful.

    Oh look, it's the fun police. Just tucking into my easter egg now and thought you might like to know that it's delicious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Not everyone is allowed to stay at home. Some people still have a job to go to.

    Wear gloves then and wash your 'hands' while wearing the gloves.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    KiKi III wrote: »
    Nope, it was done over video call so cool your jets. Based on her insta she hasn’t left the house. She posts pics of herself, Brian or the dog with funny captions. It’s enjoyable light relief.

    As enjoyable as haemorrhoids and root canals. Instagram "celebs" are pure cannon fodder, imagine wasting your existence through other people you'll never meet.

    Disclaimer: My opinion. Before the dreary "you don't have follow their exploits". No, and I don't have to take you seriously either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Is the skin on anyone else's hands peeling off from handwashing?

    Moisturise for godsake man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭ihdxwz4a3pem9j


    As enjoyable as haemorrhoids and root canals. Instagram "celebs" are pure cannon fodder, imagine wasting your existence through other people you'll never meet.

    Disclaimer: My opinion. Before the dreary "you don't have follow their exploits". No, and I don't have to take you seriously either.

    Jenner’s (I can never tell them apart) response to the Covid-crisis was utterly tone deaf.

    I have not been able to go home to my family or friends since this kicked off (I am afraid of transmitting the infection to them). Boards has been a great way of staying connected! It has been a great source of entertainment in the difficult time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Is the skin on anyone else's hands peeling off from handwashing?


    Have you changed soap? I got red hands from using hand sanitizer (when I was out and about) but when I was just washing with soap and water, I didn't have many problems.



    Maybe get some moisturizer next time you're at the shops.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,488 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    no HSE press conference today thank X


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