Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

optogirl wrote: »

Again nobody knows how this transaction happened. No more dangerous than going to the supermarket or receiving a package. In fact probably much less risky. Pay online, collect item, disinfect it. I really don't see what the big hoo-ha is.

Again, it's all about optics. Catch some lad who is trying to get something for his family and make an example of him. Plaster it all over social media and let it be known that they are watching us. People need to be cut a little slack. These laws have been in place for a few days now. We never had such restrictions placed on our movement before and it takes time for people to adjust.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Somebody that can ignore the restrictions (and for a trampoline) probably doesn't really care about picking up the virus in the first place. Fair enough if people actually want to catch it but I wouldn't trust these types of people to self isolate either. They would be the type out in the shops and posting letters (which has actually happened).

You just cannot make excuses or exceptions. I just don't understand stupidity.

Posting letters? Sure didn't An Post provide us all with postcards in order to do just that. Theres no restrictions on using the postal service is there?

optogirl wrote: »

Again nobody knows how this transaction happened. No more dangerous than going to the supermarket or receiving a package. In fact probably much less risky. Pay online, collect item, disinfect it. I really don't see what the big hoo-ha is.

1) He travelled outside the 2km zone

2) Could have had an accident on the way unnecessary journey put a strain on the health service

3) Risk of infection from the person he bought the trampoline from, no symptoms for 14 days happily goes about his business transferring the virus to other people

4) Could be asymptomatic hence passing the virus anyways

That's what the big hoo ha is

Shin

optogirl wrote: »

Posting letters? Sure didn't An Post provide us all with postcards in order to do just that. Theres no restrictions on using the postal service is there?

There are when you are stopped at a checkpoint travelling to post a letter when you have been tested positive - as was the case in the example quoted.

Some people are selfish ****ers and don’t see the knock on effect of their selfishness.
I had to go to the ED yesterday at our local hospitals (not covid related) and I couldn’t say enough good things about the professionalism of the nursing staff there. They didn’t even wear masks unless dealing with public close up. They are so vulnerable and risking their lives, young nurses, old nurses, pregnant nurses, all there in harms way to help us. It was humbling, and scary all at the same time. Their masks are just the papery surgical masks which we are told are useless to prevent us getting coronavirus. Their aprons are flimsy plastic. If that’s the level of PPE they have I feel so sorry for them, and I fear we’ll see a lot more hospital workers infected. So, selfish people should stay home and think of those nurses and other hospital staff when making “essential” trips to buy bull**** they can do without.
What’s essential? Anything which you need to keep you alive- food, medicine, heating fuel at a push. Not trampolines, I never heard of anyone who died because they didn’t have a trampoline, quite the opposite in fact.

The story that the virus may of originated in a Laboratory was discussed, I think by Luke O'Neil & has a lot of merit.

This 2004 article refers to lab accidents with Sars in China.

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/304/5671/659

There are two labs close to Wuhan that research viruses & at least one of them researches coronaviruses spread by bats.

https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-government-coronavirus-may-leaked-chinese-laboratory-covid-2020-4?r=US&IR=T

optogirl wrote: »

Not necessarily. Autistic child here but landlord won't allow trampoline in garden. He was going to OT twice a week but obviously that's cancelled for now. He's doing ok but I really do wish we had a trampoline. He's not severe but I can imagine I would be very keen to get one if he was at the moment.

The Gardai seem to be exercising their discretion in this regard. I’d imagine if the driver said “I have a severely autistic child currently missing their Occupational Therapy” they would have allowed him through as that’s pretty essential.

It’s a replacement for a regularly prescribed healthcare activity in that instance.

optogirl wrote: »

Not necessarily. Autistic child here but landlord won't allow trampoline in garden. He was going to OT twice a week but obviously that's cancelled for now. He's doing ok but I really do wish we had a trampoline. He's not severe but I can imagine I would be very keen to get one if he was at the moment.

Even the small indoor trampolines with the handles can provide great sensory regulation might be worth a look.

blackcard wrote: »

Exactly. Why have any restrictions at all? I mean you should be able to go to the pub, find a quiet corner, barman leaves the pint on the counter, you disinfect the glass, pay by contact less card, go back to your quiet corner. No big hoo-ha.

And ask the barman has he a spare trampoline for sale.

Yes that's the same. Well done.

JRant wrote: »

Thanks but no thanks. We don't need our betters spying on our every movement more than they already are.

Digital contact tracing is possible without invoking Big Brother.

The concept is explained here, in comic form for easy understanding.

Gynoid wrote: »

Feels like Christmas in here, the family bleary eyed, drinking left over glasses of red wine before breakfast, and at each others throats over trampolines and dildos.

Jesus, that's some family you have.