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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    optogirl wrote: »
    Posting letters? Sure didn't An Post provide us all with postcards in order to do just that. Theres no restrictions on using the postal service is there?

    There are when you are stopped at a checkpoint travelling to post a letter when you have been tested positive - as was the case in the example quoted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Shouldn't they already have a trampoline so?

    Sounds more like bored kids at home.

    Not saying him in paticular. Im saying Trampolines are essesntial to some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭screamer


    Some people are selfish ****ers and don’t see the knock on effect of their selfishness.
    I had to go to the ED yesterday at our local hospitals (not covid related) and I couldn’t say enough good things about the professionalism of the nursing staff there. They didn’t even wear masks unless dealing with public close up. They are so vulnerable and risking their lives, young nurses, old nurses, pregnant nurses, all there in harms way to help us. It was humbling, and scary all at the same time. Their masks are just the papery surgical masks which we are told are useless to prevent us getting coronavirus. Their aprons are flimsy plastic. If that’s the level of PPE they have I feel so sorry for them, and I fear we’ll see a lot more hospital workers infected. So, selfish people should stay home and think of those nurses and other hospital staff when making “essential” trips to buy bull**** they can do without.
    What’s essential? Anything which you need to keep you alive- food, medicine, heating fuel at a push. Not trampolines, I never heard of anyone who died because they didn’t have a trampoline, quite the opposite in fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Shouldn't they already have a trampoline so?

    Sounds more like bored kids at home.

    Not necessarily. Autistic child here but landlord won't allow trampoline in garden. He was going to OT twice a week but obviously that's cancelled for now. He's doing ok but I really do wish we had a trampoline. He's not severe but I can imagine I would be very keen to get one if he was at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,117 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    The story that the virus may of originated in a Laboratory was discussed, I think by Luke O'Neil & has a lot of merit.

    This 2004 article refers to lab accidents with Sars in China.

    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/304/5671/659

    There are two labs close to Wuhan that research viruses & at least one of them researches coronaviruses spread by bats.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-government-coronavirus-may-leaked-chinese-laboratory-covid-2020-4?r=US&IR=T


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭RiceCrispy


    Shouldn't they already have a trampoline so?

    Sounds more like bored kids at home.

    2 special needs kids myself and our trampoline is 100% essential for their wellbeing. Maybe they did have one and it broke? Trampoline is the main sensory regulator we have and a massive change in routine has been very difficult for all special needs kids. Smyths are sold out so maybe they had little options. I don't know the details, none of us do. Be great if people didnt jump :) to conclusions though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    optogirl wrote: »
    Not necessarily. Autistic child here but landlord won't allow trampoline in garden. He was going to OT twice a week but obviously that's cancelled for now. He's doing ok but I really do wish we had a trampoline. He's not severe but I can imagine I would be very keen to get one if he was at the moment.

    The Gardai seem to be exercising their discretion in this regard. I’d imagine if the driver said “I have a severely autistic child currently missing their Occupational Therapy” they would have allowed him through as that’s pretty essential.

    It’s a replacement for a regularly prescribed healthcare activity in that instance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭blackcard


    optogirl wrote: »
    Again nobody knows how this transaction happened. No more dangerous than going to the supermarket or receiving a package. In fact probably much less risky. Pay online, collect item, disinfect it. I really don't see what the big hoo-ha is.

    Exactly. Why have any restrictions at all? I mean you should be able to go to the pub, find a quiet corner, barman leaves the pint on the counter, you disinfect the glass, pay by contact less card, go back to your quiet corner. No big hoo-ha.

    And ask the barman has he a spare trampoline for sale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭RiceCrispy


    optogirl wrote: »
    Not necessarily. Autistic child here but landlord won't allow trampoline in garden. He was going to OT twice a week but obviously that's cancelled for now. He's doing ok but I really do wish we had a trampoline. He's not severe but I can imagine I would be very keen to get one if he was at the moment.

    Even the small indoor trampolines with the handles can provide great sensory regulation might be worth a look.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Its not the same as a child with sensory needs.

    Just tell her to stsy at home.

    Tell who? The fictional woman in the post?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Boggles wrote: »
    They are not allowed wear them.

    Not their fault TBF.

    But they do wear them in certain situations normally, I've often see them wearing them when say dealing with a drunken person who has collapsed or is unconscious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,117 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Not saying him in paticular. Im saying Trampolines are essesntial to some.

    I think the trampoline story is a convenient one. Were all those checkpoints, hours of delays about a trampoline ? How many people were caught breaking the new laws apart from tax, nct etc ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    optogirl wrote: »
    Not necessarily. Autistic child here but landlord won't allow trampoline in garden. He was going to OT twice a week but obviously that's cancelled for now. He's doing ok but I really do wish we had a trampoline. He's not severe but I can imagine I would be very keen to get one if he was at the moment.

    Well then they can be bought online so to avoid any unnecessary journeys and interactions with people. Done deal or adverts is not the place when it's making people go further than what is allowed and no excuses should be made.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Its not the same as a child with sensory needs.

    Just tell her to stsy at home.

    Tell her to sit on her washing machine on full throttle and to keep her feet off the floor.
    (The woman that is)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭optogirl


    blackcard wrote: »
    Exactly. Why have any restrictions at all? I mean you should be able to go to the pub, find a quiet corner, barman leaves the pint on the counter, you disinfect the glass, pay by contact less card, go back to your quiet corner. No big hoo-ha.

    And ask the barman has he a spare trampoline for sale.

    Yes that's the same. Well done.


  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Discodog wrote: »
    I think the trampoline story is a convenient one. Were all those checkpoints, hours of delays about a trampoline ? How many people were caught breaking the new laws apart from tax, nct etc ?

    I heard that particular individual has been sprung from jail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Carbon125


    JRant wrote: »
    Thanks but no thanks. We don't need our betters spying on our every movement more than they already are.
    Digital contact tracing is possible without invoking Big Brother.

    The concept is explained here, in comic form for easy understanding.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    RiceCrispy wrote: »
    2 special needs kids myself and our trampoline is 100% essential for their wellbeing. Maybe they did have one and it broke? Trampoline is the main sensory regulator we have and a massive change in routine has been very difficult for all special needs kids. Smyths are sold out so maybe they had little options. I don't know the details, none of us do. Be great if people didnt jump :) to conclusions though.

    I'm sure there's other online shops other than Smyth's. And if they care enough about their special needs kids, shouldn't they also be protecting them from this virus. An unnecessary journey like that is not helping them. Protecting their kids/family from this virus should come first and not a trampoline.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    I heard that particular individual has been sprung from jail

    Incorrect. The Gardai got the jump on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Feels like Christmas in here, the family bleary eyed, drinking left over glasses of red wine before breakfast, and at each others throats over trampolines and dildos.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Feels like Christmas in here, the family bleary eyed, drinking left over glasses of red wine before breakfast, and at each others throats over trampolines and dildos.

    Jesus, that's some family you have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    JRant wrote: »
    The longer this goes on the less people are going to pay any heed to these briefings. If they can't be 100% transparent with the general population then they'll lose them fairly lively.


    Agree. I've stopped watching the briefings because of apparent transparency issues. Those briefings should be viewed as important for reinforcing their message and they should realise that people are being turned off.

    Sterophonics gig is interesting....iirc south wales was a particular hotspot for coronavirus last few weeks


    I didn't realise that. Very interesting (and shocking too). I can't recall if we had any huge concerts around then (but I do know we were cancelling gigs the week after).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    Trampolines are essential to children with special needs like autism. I guarantee you that.

    Even children without special needs, helps them burn off energy. Kids playgrounds closed now so very happy we have a trampoline, out they go and bounce now when they are bored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭woohoo!!!


    Stick the two freepost cards onto the trampoline, to be sure to be sure. It'll get there no problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,363 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    and this Easter, The HCPT and IHCPT, organisations which bring children to Lourdes every Easter, are supposed to be there today; sadly, not happening this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭domrush


    I need to go from Galway to Dublin to complete an exam in my office on Stephens Green at the end of the month. The exam will be done online but requires software only available in my office, it’s not an option to get another copy of the software.

    The office itself is open but manned by very few people, will likely speak to no one during the day. Have an apartment in Dublin that is currently empty so no danger of meeting anyone there either. Will I be turned away by the guards on the motorway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Carbon125 wrote: »
    Digital contact tracing is possible without invoking Big Brother.

    The concept is explained here, in comic form for easy understanding.

    I think something like this is almost inevitable.
    There are some trust issues but the big problem I'd see is that you need it's use to be quite widespread so you probably need incentives for people to use the app.

    Now, if those incentives become things like 'you gain entry to Lidl if you have the app', then I can see big problems.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    domrush wrote: »
    I need to go from Galway to Dublin to complete an exam in my office on Stephens Green at the end of the month. The exam will be done online but requires software only available in my office, it’s not an option to get another copy of the software.

    The office itself is open but manned by very few people, will likely speak to no one during the day. Have an apartment in Dublin that is currently empty so no danger of meeting anyone there either. Will I be turned away by the guards on the motorway?

    You'd want to get a letter from your company saying you are needed on premises. And whether they would consider your visit essential is dependent on them I guess, do they need you to do the exams right now? Were they not postponed...etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    RiceCrispy wrote: »
    2 special needs kids myself and our trampoline is 100% essential for their wellbeing. Maybe they did have one and it broke? Trampoline is the main sensory regulator we have and a massive change in routine has been very difficult for all special needs kids. Smyths are sold out so maybe they had little options. I don't know the details, none of us do. Be great if people didnt jump :) to conclusions though.

    If this was the case they could have obtained a letter from healthcare professional to say the trampoline and journey was nessecary. The gardai will allow any journey if there is proof its essential. No evidence the trampoline was essential in this case.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭RiceCrispy


    I'm sure there's other online shops other than Smyth's. And if they care enough about their special needs kids, shouldn't they also be protecting them from this virus. An unnecessary journey like that is not helping them. Protecting their kids/family from this virus should come first and not a trampoline.

    If they care enough about their special needs kids.... Wowsers. Would put my life on the line for my kids any day and anything they needed for health & wellbeing wouldnt be unnecessary.

    More than likely it was just an eejit buying a trampoline....But like i said best not to judge..
    Its not an endearing trait.


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