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The Chinese Big Lie

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  • #842
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Deleted User wrote: »
    How did they destroy the world economy? The virus, and individual country's reactions to that virus have caused the world economy to stumble. Which simply shows how vulnerable it has become. It's not destroyed.. drama queen theatrics. :rolleyes:

    And we come back to punishing China, and making them pay... but once again, simplistic statements expecting others to make it happen.

    They covered it up that's how.

    I'm not expecting others to make it happen. The conversation must start though and we all have our part to play in that. Muzzling opinion like the CCP do isn't helpful in that regard.


  • #843
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,046 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Have to ask why are some on this forum so determined to deflect blame from China?

    Here’s a list:

    It was China’s fault to facilitate the bush meat industry and to allow unfettered consumption of wildlife meat - despite horrific animal cruelty and well known health risks

    It was China’s fault that it allowed free access to “wet markets” - brazenly so- even after the knowledge that “wet markets” are a cause of zoonotic viruses

    It was China’s fault to Silence and threaten ppl who alerted society about c19.

    It was China’s fault that it downplayed the seriousness of c19

    It was China’s fault that it provided knowingly false vital statistics about the virus to the global community.

    It was China’s fault that it opted to broadcast false propaganda rather than scientific realities.

    It was China’s fault that after the virus spread outside it’s borders it complained bitterly that air routes were being closed to it.

    It was China’s fault to facilitate provision of useless PPE to States desperately attempting to buy some.

    I am probably missing a few - please add more if they come to mind.

    UPDATE: as some are unclear by “China” I mean the government of China.


  • #844
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It doesn't have to have been a bio weapon. It's more likely research and carelessness. They could have been researching viruses in bats and one of the staff fall ill.

    It definitely could be as you described.

    Although scientific literature has been warning about it for ages. Even if we destroyed every research lab in the world there would still be a high risk of pandemics like this.


  • #845
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    why are some on this forum so determined to deflect blame from China?

    It was China’s fault to facilitate the bush meat industry and to allow unfettered consumption of wildlife meat - despite known risks

    It was China’s fault that it allowed free access to wet markets - brazenly so- even after the knowledge that wet markets are a cause of zoonotic viruses

    It was China’s fault to Silence and threaten ppl who alerted society about c19.

    It was China’s fault that it downplayed the seriousness of c19

    It was China’s fault that it provided knowingly false vital statistics about the virus to the global community.

    It was China’s fault that it opted to broadcast false propaganda rather than scientific realities.

    It was China’s fault that after the virus spread outside it’s borders it complained bitterly that air routes were being closed to it.

    It was China’s fault to provide useless PPE to states desperately attempting to buy some.

    I am probably missing a few - please add more if they come to mind.
    agree fully


  • #846
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    How exactly? I agree with you btw.

    We can start with Hollywood; they have been corrupted by China for years and are becoming a propoganda tool for them.

    China only allow a certain amount of movies into their markets, this leads to a rush for movies to be China friendly that appease Chinese censors.



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  • #847
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    whats the best explanation why it hasn't spread across China? the easies is they are lying and it has given how infectious it seems to be. do they have a treatment they aren't being open about?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #848
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    They covered it up that's how.

    I'm not expecting others to make it happen. The conversation must start though and we all have our part to play in that. Muzzling opinion like the CCP do isn't helpful in that regard.

    They covered up the destruction of the world economy? Wow. Impressive. Or they covered up the virus affecting the world.. even more impressive.

    the CCP can muzzle, to a degree, discussion within China. It's can't do much to stop debate outside of China... which is why your posts make so little sense.


  • #849
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    why are some on this forum so determined to deflect blame from China?

    I don't see anyone trying to deflect from anything. There are very nuanced opinions in this thread, and alot of things that are being conflated.

    Personally I believe China 'covererd up' for the first few weeks because they are a communist regime that doesn't function properly, but since then they have been pretty open and honest about things.

    I don't agree with you about the wet markets. They didn't knowingly post false statistics to the world either but yes they still publish a lot of propoganda.

    If we allow flights from China that is not their fault, it is our fault. It is not for China to ban flights here, it is up to us to ban flights from China.

    We should count ourselves lucky China are sending any PPE at all.


  • #850
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    It was China’s fault that it provided knowingly false vital statistics about the virus to the global community.

    Knowingly? Can you back that up? The data on this everywhere is terrible, and conflicting
    It was China’s fault to provide useless PPE to states desperately attempting to buy some.

    "China" isn't an unregistered business that sells PPE, faulty or otherwise.

    They're obviously not blameless but some of this stuff is ridiculous and OTT, Trump will be using this in his reelection campaign as well no doubt


  • #851
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm done with the thread. It's a jerk-fest of assigning blame, but avoiding responsibility. Pass the buck. For all the complaints, many here are behaving just as bad as the Chinese. Demands. Threats. Insular thinking. And an inability to argue logically on their own points... just throwing out rubbish and expecting people to accept it. An endless circle of ego stroking and virtue signalling. Pathetic.


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  • #852
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    They covered up the destruction of the world economy? Wow. Impressive. Or they covered up the virus affecting the world.. even more impressive.

    the CCP can muzzle, to a degree, discussion within China. It's can't do much to stop debate outside of China... which is why your posts make so little sense.
    I think he means opinion is muzzled inside China, outside of China eveyone knows China is to blame


  • #853
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm done with the thread. It's a jerk-fest of assigning blame, but avoiding responsibility. Pass the buck. For all the complaints, many here are behaving just as bad as the Chinese. Demands. Threats. Insular thinking. And an inability to argue logically on their own points... just throwing out rubbish and expecting people to accept it. An endless circle of ego stroking and virtue signalling. Pathetic.

    This thread is just a petri-dish of what's happening out there in the media with regards this story. Nearly everyone seems to be blaming China because it's an easy deflection.


  • #854
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'm done with the thread. It's a jerk-fest of assigning blame, but avoiding responsibility. Pass the buck. For all the complaints, many here are behaving just as bad as the Chinese. Demands. Threats. Insular thinking. And an inability to argue logically on their own points... just throwing out rubbish and expecting people to accept it. An endless circle of ego stroking and virtue signalling. Pathetic.
    Are you working in the takeaway tonight?


  • #855
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    2u2me wrote: »
    This thread is just a petri-dish of what's happening out there in the media with regards this story. Nearly everyone seems to be blaming China because it's an easy deflection.
    The virus came from China even my 5 year old knows that


  • #856
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    silverharp wrote: »
    whats the best explanation why it hasn't spread across China? the easies is they are lying and it has given how infectious it seems to be. do they have a treatment they aren't being open about?
    Who says it hasn't


  • #857
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    declanflynn wrote: »
    The virus came from China even my 5 year old knows that

    That seems to be about the level of thinking coming out of you. You hear China and can't help but try to order chinese takeaway. Justeat is that way buddy -->
    I mean there's primitive levels of thinking and then we have you.
    declanflynn wrote: »
    Are you working in the takeaway tonight?
    declanflynn wrote: »
    can I have chicken in chop suey and egg fried rice
    declanflynn wrote: »
    poster owns a Chinese takeaway

    It most definitely came from China. I think it will be called the Wuhan flu; has a good ring to it.


  • #858
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Deleted User wrote: »
    They covered up the destruction of the world economy? Wow. Impressive. Or they covered up the virus affecting the world.. even more impressive.

    the CCP can muzzle, to a degree, discussion within China. It's can't do much to stop debate outside of China... which is why your posts make so little sense.

    You know exactly what I meant.

    The CCP covered up the spread of the virus at the very beginning of this.

    I can't figure out how you could misunderstand my post?


  • #859
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    declanflynn wrote: »
    I think he means opinion is muzzled inside China, outside of China eveyone knows China is to blame

    He knows exactly what I meant.


  • #860
    bob mcbob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭bob mcbob


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm done with the thread. It's a jerk-fest of assigning blame, but avoiding responsibility. Pass the buck. For all the complaints, many here are behaving just as bad as the Chinese. Demands. Threats. Insular thinking. And an inability to argue logically on their own points... just throwing out rubbish and expecting people to accept it. An endless circle of ego stroking and virtue signalling. Pathetic.

    Oh believe me when this is over the West will start looking for answers, apportioning blame in their now governments and putting in place stuff to try to stop it happening again.

    Top of the list will be CCP are scum treat them as such.


  • #861
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,039 ✭✭✭jackboy


    bob mcbob wrote: »
    Oh believe me when this is over the West will start looking for answers, apportioning blame in their now governments and putting in place stuff to try to stop it happening again.

    Top of the list will be CCP are scum treat them as such.

    No, after this there never will be more need for lots of cheap stuff from China. They will make a killing.


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  • #862
    bob mcbob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 971 ✭✭✭bob mcbob


    jackboy wrote: »
    No, after this there never will be more need for lots of cheap stuff from China. They will make a killing.

    Ok we are going to go back destroying the environment, supporting a scumbag regime and exposing ourselves to new pandemics in order to buy a load of cheap s**t we don't need.


  • #863
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    bob mcbob wrote: »
    Ok we are going to go back destroying the environment, supporting a scumbag regime and exposing ourselves to new pandemics in order to buy a load of cheap s**t we don't need.

    The good old days when Apple motherboards were made in Ireland


  • #864
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    declanflynn wrote: »
    Are you working in the takeaway tonight?
    Threadbanned


  • #865
    mikiezzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 ✭mikiezzz


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    You know exactly what I meant.

    The CCP covered up the spread of the virus at the very beginning of this.

    Agree. Here is a very informative magazine revealing the truth:

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/edition/ccp-virus-13_3288123

    CCP Virus
    Table of Contents
    1 Editorial: Where Ties With Communist China Are Close, the Coronavirus Follows
    2 In a Time of Crisis, Opt for Faith, Not Fear
    3 China Launches Global Disinformation Campaign in Attempt to Shift Blame for CCP Virus
    4 Editorial: Giving the Right Name to the Virus Causing a Worldwide Pandemic
    5 Past Pandemics and Epidemics
    6 Gratitude and Generosity in a Time of Crisis
    7 Trump’s National Day of Prayer During CCP Virus Crisis Nettled Critics, but America Still a Praying Nation
    8 Severe Supply Disruptions Could Speed Demise of Globalization
    9 Time Has Come to Remove the Cancer of the CCP
    10 21 Million Fewer Cellphone Users in China May Suggest a High CCP Virus Death Toll
    11 The Mysterious Origins of the CCP Virus
    12 Silenced: Stories of Citizens Suppressed for Speaking the Truth About the CCP Virus


    , in which there is a concise timeline of CCP's coverup:

    EET-Magazine_nr3_CCPVirus-2020_8.375x10.875in_v1.1_TIMELINE.jpg


  • #866
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    mikiezzz wrote: »
    Here is a very informative magazine revealing the truth:
    , in which there is a concise timeline of CCP's coverup:

    Seems pretty factual. All behaviour I would expect from a communist authoritarian dicatorship.

    I'm not sure about their cover though,
    "How the CCP's coverup lead to a global pandemic".

    Even if this virus had originated in let's say South Korea it would have taken a few weeks to identify and start containment; could we be so sure they could have averted a global pandemic? I'm not so sure based on how infections this virus is.

    During the SARS outbreak mainland China and Hong Kong accounted for 87% of all cases and 84% of all deaths. They did a pretty good job of restricting it there.

    Interesting date to note on your timeline is Jan 20th, that's when news of H2H tranmission was available; everything from that moment on is our our responsibility.


  • #867
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    The CCP as a deflection is bombarding the world accusing the world of being racist towards them , meanwhile there is state approved racism towards foreigners in parts of China

    https://twitter.com/ncambirwa/status/1248328538123653120

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #868
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    silverharp wrote: »
    The CCP as a deflection is bombarding the world accusing the world of being racist towards them , meanwhile there is state approved racism towards foreigners in parts of China

    https://twitter.com/ncambirwa/status/1248328538123653120

    The Guardian had the cheek to falsely accuse the NHS of discriminating against black patients.


  • #869
    Kivaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Grab All Association wrote: »
    The Guardian had the cheek to falsely accuse the NHS of discriminating against black patients.
    It's the Guardian. Enough said.


  • #870
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    Grab All Association wrote: »
    The good old days when Apple motherboards were made in Ireland

    Assembled in Ireland doesn't equate to made in Ireland


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  • #871
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Kivaro wrote: »
    It's the Guardian. Enough said.

    it would be a shame if people forgot to buy newspapers after this

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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