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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #872
    Wii776
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭Wii776


    lbj666 wrote: »
    Why that should be respected they should be remind that the health service doesnt care if you are willing to meet your maker, they still have to treat you. So the more elderly who are a peace with the idea of contracting this for the sake of trying to live on as normal, the more strained the health service will be.

    The reality is that they probably will not be treated, at least, not to full ICU level. I think anyone with half a brain, who can read between the lines, can see that Ireland is very much operating an unofficial triage system, where the very old are not having exhaustive resources deployed to save them.


  • #873
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    There have now been 320* COVID-19 related deaths in Ireland. (Validation of data at the HPSC this week resulted in the denotification of 1 death. The figure of 320 deaths reflects this. )

    but then they are says 30 deaths todays instead of 33


  • #874
    kalkat2002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭kalkat2002


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    How are you getting shopping if not going outside?
    Tried ordering online for my dad and sister, closet slot was three weeks, went ahead with it and it was cancelled on the morning that they were to deliver.

    My sister lives across the road from him and as she is still driving to work in public service position, is doing shopping for both of them.

    To stay home all you can even if it is sunny outside
    I am doing weekly shop first on the morning not daily for beer or ice cream...


  • #875
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Feck me - gov.ie is saying 34,156 cases in Dublin

    Lad there could've been 100,000 cases in Dublin, no one knows.


  • #876
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    FVP3 wrote: »
    You want the chinese measures, bandit? Lock everybody into houses?

    About the only extra thing we can do is ban joggers in certain areas, footpaths in urban areas etc. Not much more we can do, evidenced by the fact that your only complaint is joggers.

    We don't have the manpower for that. Massive on the spot fines for those not willing to cooperate.


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  • #877
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Wii776 wrote: »
    someone would come in on a plane or ferry in the afternoon and the cycle starts again.

    Why would a SINGLE person coming in result in a cycle similar to one that was caused by MANY people coming in ??

    Notwithstanding the fact that we will be on the lookout for new cases and in a position to contact trace immediately.


  • #878
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Ireland now 8th in the world in number of cases per capita(excluding microstates), and 10th in the world in deaths per capita

    Shocking stuff we are doing sh1t


  • #879
    Logan Roy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Logan Roy


    It's amazing how different all the figures are by countries, positive test rates, tests per capita, death rates are all over the place.

    E.g US 522k cases from 2.6 million tests - 20% Positive
    Spain 162k cases from 355k tests - 46% Positive
    Russia 13.5k cases from 1.2 million tests - 1.1% Positive

    What gives?


  • #880
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Ireland now 8th in the world in number of cases per capita(excluding microstates), and 10th in the world in deaths per capita

    And yet some want to relax restrictions.

    We are in a very bad spot here people need to wake the fvuk up.


  • #881
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    kalkat2002 wrote: »
    Garda has no authority here and low in numbers so I cant see it

    Can the army not help? What are they doing?


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  • #882
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    mean gene wrote: »
    Shocking stuff we are doing sh1t

    We are far from doing sh1t


  • #883
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Feck me - gov.ie is saying 34,156 cases in Dublin

    Edit and Tipp 1166

    Where's this? Have you a link?


  • #884
    kevin12345
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Where's this? Have you a link?

    They're way off. 4156 in Dublin and 166 in Tipperary.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/28cb70-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-saturday-11/#cases-by-county


  • #885
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Also teachers. We really need to do something about them also

    Yep they certainly failed some posters the way they go on about them, but that could be more down to the person themselves.


  • #886
    kalkat2002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭kalkat2002


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Can the army not help? What are they doing?

    I am spanish and police there always carry gun and has an authority you cant imagine here plus there is one in every corner
    Even tho they call army as they are really needed


  • #887
    Wii776
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭Wii776


    Curious_Case wrote: »
    Why would a SINGLE person coming in result in a cycle similar to one that was caused by MANY people coming in ??

    Notwithstanding the fact that we will be on the lookout for new cases and in a position to contact trace immediately.

    The worldwide 1.6 million cases all started with 1 case. Can you understand that?


  • #888
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/massive-spike-in-nyc-cardiac-arrest-deaths-seen-as-sign-of-covid-19-undercounting/2368678/

    400% increase in number of people experiencing cardiac arrest at home in New York city lately, thought to be contributing to a considerable undercount of the true number of people dying from coronavirus in the city


  • #889
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Lad there could've been 100,000 cases in Dublin, no one knows.

    Yes, the best indicator is the amount of people deemed to be candidates for ICU, that number is accurate.


  • #890
    Sean 18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭Sean 18


    Why can't the hse break down all the deaths in ages etc these deaths everyday there is no way these are just in their 70s and 80s I wonder how many Young healthy in Ireland are dying from this every day


  • #891
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Feck me - gov.ie is saying 34,156 cases in Dublin

    Edit and Tipp 1166

    Tipp is 166.

    Dunno where that other number comes from - but it's wrong too.


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  • #892
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    853 new cases, how is that curve flattening

    553 cases are new the other numbers are from the backlog sent to Germany


  • #893
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Wii776 wrote: »
    The worldwide 1.6 million cases all started with 1 case. Can you understand that?

    That doesn't negate my point.
    You are saying that two different situations are in fact the same.


  • #894
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    It’s been so long since the backlog started I would think a lot of them have recovered,

    I would also think if any of them ended up in hospital that there would be duplicate as I’m sure they would have been tested again


  • #895
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    Why can't the hse break down all the deaths in ages etc these deaths everyday there is no way these are just in their 70s and 80s I wonder how many Young healthy in Ireland are dying from this every day

    Very few young healthy people are dying everyday from this in Ireland. If anyone under 40 with no known health issues dies of coronavirus it is big news in the country where it occurs


  • #896
    loughside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside


    Deleted User wrote: »
    33 in the 26 counties
    15 in the N.Ireland, U.K    .




    There ya go went and corrected that for ya..


    Got it??




    good..


  • #897
    reg114
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭reg114


    Compare Ireland to Denmark similar population yet we have 4,000 more cases. Compare Ireland to Czech Republic , they have double the population and 4000 fewer cases than us.

    I believe we will peak in the coming days. The german results at this point are meaningless as far as the trend is concerned because while they may add to the total number they are most likely results from swabs taken several weeks ago.
    So the 553 cases today and its equivalent number over the next few days is the one to watch. As I said I believe this daily number will fall next week.

    The deaths are rising but that is going to happen as the overall number is rising, it will take several weeks more more the deaths to start to fall I believe.

    When all this is over there will have to be a serious look at the deficiencies that led to 'reagent' shortages , lack of capacity in labs, lack of PPE and the disgrace that has seen 20% of all 9000 cases so far being found among healthcare professionals. There is also the shameful fact that of all the OECD countries Ireland has the lowest number of ICU beds. Its totally unacceptable that an island nation off the west of Europe has more cases and deaths than Denmark which is only 1600 km away from Italy.


  • #898
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Logan Roy wrote: »
    It's amazing how different all the figures are by countries, positive test rates, tests per capita, death rates are all over the place.

    E.g US 522k cases from 2.6 million tests - 20% Positive
    Spain 162k cases from 355k tests - 46% Positive
    Russia 13.5k cases from 1.2 million tests - 1.1% Positive

    What gives?

    Russians are tough. Or Putin is lying.


  • #899
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Sean 18 wrote: »
    I wonder how many Young healthy in Ireland are dying from this every day

    Healthy and under 66?

    I would say 5 a day absolute tops.

    Probably less than 3.


  • #900
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kalkat2002 wrote: »
    To stay home all you can even if it is sunny outside
    I am doing weekly shop first on the morning not daily for beer or ice cream...

    Where in my post did I say that I am doing a daily shop for beer or ice cream, or are you assuming?


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  • #901
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Wii776 wrote: »
    The worldwide 1.6 million cases all started with 1 case. Can you understand that?

    I've pointed out two differences

    Can you understand that ??


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