Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Stheno · 11-04-2020 06:12PM

Ivy Big Looter wrote: »

How are new cases still rising after 2 weeks lockdown?

14 days for symptoms to show up then few days for a test

End of next week before youd expect to see new cases decrease

BanditLuke · 11-04-2020 06:12PM

Ivy Big Looter wrote: »

How are new cases still rising after 2 weeks lockdown?

What lockdown?

Seamai · 11-04-2020 06:13PM

Boggles wrote: »

I certainly would, she is a little minx.

I can think of another 4 letter word for her and it's not minx. I'll give you a clue, it starts with C

froog · 11-04-2020 06:13PM

if we hit 60 ish deaths a day we would match italy's peak for per capita deaths.

Strazdas · 11-04-2020 06:13PM

Ivy Big Looter wrote: »

How are new cases still rising after 2 weeks lockdown?

They are but as a percentage of the overall cases, they are very stable : this is the 'flattening the curve' phenomenon in action.

mean gene · 11-04-2020 06:13PM

The figures are very high I'm afraid tis worse it's getting

BanditLuke · 11-04-2020 06:14PM

Seamai wrote: »

I can think of another 4 letter word for her and it's not minx. I'll give you a clue, it starts with C

Cute?

1800_Ladladlad · 11-04-2020 06:14PM

My neighbor who is a carer, is sitting out the front of her house having a BBQ with her sons (who don't live in the house with her), cutting each others hair with their tops off. One son works security for the Luas. His GF comes over in another car with the 5 y/o son. Another two people show up who Iv never seen before. Its difficult to not notice this as they are the last house on the cul-de-sac, having a knockabout listening to scummer FM. These are the type who ruin it for everyone.

lbj666 · 11-04-2020 06:14PM

froog wrote: »

if we hit 60 ish deaths a day we would match italy's peak for per capita deaths.

Eh we are just over half that, so your point being?

SnrInfant · 11-04-2020 06:15PM

Ivy Big Looter wrote: »

How are new cases still rising after 2 weeks lockdown?

Because there is no lockdown 😡
Where I live, people are just trotting along about their daily business like it's no ones business.
Not a Garda in sight.
Social distancing is not a thing in the town I live in.

Away With The Fairies · 11-04-2020 06:15PM

Stheno wrote: »

14 days for symptoms to show up then few days for a test

End of next week before youd expect to see new cases decrease

But we're not on a full lockdown? I'd be surprised if there was a decrease in numbers next week.

spookwoman · 11-04-2020 06:15PM

Patd6 wrote: »

Thread title says 321 deaths, rte news website says 320...

ecdc same will have a look and see where there might have been a wrong report

DevilsHaircut · 11-04-2020 06:15PM

1641 wrote: »

I don't think it is either malice or incompetence. Those dashboard figures are linked directly to the graph. The graph shows the daily pattern of growth. Including the German numbers in that would distort the graph and suggest a huge increase in Covid-19 in the country over the past few days.

If there was malice, etc, they would not be disclosing the German figures fully and openly, and including them in the detailed statistical breakdown of cases. They are also included in the modelling data.

TBF they should have included the German results in the 7,054 total for 10 April. The breakdowns of the 7,071 are for 8 April and include the German results.

froog · 11-04-2020 06:16PM

lbj666 wrote: »

Eh we are just over half that, so your point being?

my point is if we hit 60 ish deaths a day we would match italy's peak for per capita deaths.

BanditLuke · 11-04-2020 06:16PM

mean gene wrote: »

The figures are very high I'm afraid tis worse it's getting

The restrictions need to be ramped up and enforced.

If we continue to operate like this it's going to be a very long summer indeed.

kalkat2002 · 11-04-2020 06:17PM

Backlog of testing have false numbers
When full lockdown is decided will be late here

NegativeCreep · 11-04-2020 06:17PM

froog wrote: »

if we hit 60 ish deaths a day we would match italy's peak for per capita deaths.

Did Italy report nursing home deaths and people who died at home that had coronavirus? Genuine question. The way some countries are reporting is different to others.

Wombatman · 11-04-2020 06:18PM

froog wrote: »

if we hit 60 ish deaths a day we would match italy's peak for per capita deaths.

Wouldn't rule it out unfortunately considering the situation in nursing homes. Looking at the numbers from Spain, France and the UK, all the talk of Italy's older population profile has gone out the window.

lbj666 · 11-04-2020 06:18PM

froog wrote: »

my point is if we hit 60 ish deaths a day we would match italy's peak for per capita deaths.

But we are showing no signs of an increase to anywhere near that...yet. Its been around the 30 mark for the last week, rising slightly.

Longing · 11-04-2020 06:19PM

crossman47 wrote: »

Including German results for this purpose is meaningless; thats why Holohan was giving figure without them.

German tests are not meaningless every test done has us closer to the end of this pandemic.

Holohan does not want german numbers to disrupt his chart(Growth Chart). But you see his chart is already wrong from two weeks ago. Because the simple matter is that testing is a shambles.

Seamai · 11-04-2020 06:19PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Cute?

No, but there is a T in it.

Turtwig · 11-04-2020 06:19PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Did Italy report nursing home deaths and people who died at home that had coronavirus? Genuine question. The way some countries are reporting is different to others.

No they didn't. It's also widely believed their numbers are undercooked. Not necessarily intentionally, just their resources have and still are being completely swallowed up. Many covid deaths in Italy will simply never be detected now. Unless, for whatever reason, they invest heavily in a thorough investigation.

froog · 11-04-2020 06:20PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Did Italy report nursing home deaths and people who died at home that had coronavirus? Genuine question. The way some countries are reporting is different to others.

i'd like to know this for all countries too. i know france weren't, then included them and got a massive spike. the UK as far as i know still aren't recording deaths outside hospitals. italy, spain I'm not sure.

keynes · 11-04-2020 06:20PM

froog wrote: »

if we hit 60 ish deaths a day we would match italy's peak for per capita deaths.

Given Italy has one of the oldest populations in Europe and Ireland has one of the youngest, our death rate is horribly high

11-04-2020 06:20PM

Longing wrote: »

German tests are not meaningless every test done has us has us closer to the end of this pandemic.

Holohan does not want german numbers to disrupt his chart(Growth Chart). But you see his chart is already wrong from two weeks ago. Because the simple matter is that testing is a shambles.

Right thing to do,would have someone in the cso spend few days and go back insert numbers on appropriate day and then update growth chart,when backlog has been cleared

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 11-04-2020 06:20PM

froog wrote: »

if we hit 60 ish deaths a day we would match italy's peak for per capita deaths.

Yeah, and we could hit those numbers quite easily from here. Hospitals like Cavan Gen starting to buckle under the pressure.

We're really struggling now. We really need to get serious with our testing, or things might be about to get very ugly soon!

Away With The Fairies · 11-04-2020 06:21PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

The restrictions need to be ramped up and enforced.

If we continue to operate like this it's going to be a very long summer indeed.

China was in lockdown for two months. And they done it properly. That I can handle but not this half arsed lockdown dragging it on when people don't take it seriously.

normanoffside · 11-04-2020 06:21PM

Is there an argument to be made for reporting Nursing home deaths and cases separately, because realistically lock down measure will be having little to no affect on them?

BLIZZARD7 · 11-04-2020 06:21PM

Logan Roy wrote: »

Which is a completely wrong way of looking at it. If you only got results back once a week your daily growth would be 0% and then one massive spike one day a week. Those cases can't be considered as part of the daily growth.

Indeed, I dont understand why they haven't backdated the cases to the actual days the tests occured on. It would give us a better idea of where we are on the curve.

coastwatch · 11-04-2020 06:22PM

Ivy Big Looter wrote: »

How are new cases still rising after 2 weeks lockdown?

Good question.
Family, home contacts of people already infected
Health Care workers in hospitals, nursing homes and residental care settings.
Residents in nursing homes and residental care settings.
There will still be some level of community spread, but it must be a small perecntage of the pre-restriction spread rates.

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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