CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

Loafing Oaf · 10-04-2020 10:23AM

Drumpot wrote: »

gorilla shopping when quiet)

Like this?

is_that_so · 10-04-2020 10:24AM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

The nearest store to me that sells gorillas is next to the supermarket!

That's gorillas with a "u"!

munsterlegend · 10-04-2020 10:24AM

ironingbored wrote: »

New Zealand is 2,500 kms from Australia. You don't just rock up in rowing boat.
There is one city of note in the South Island.
76% of the population resides on the North Island.

Dublin is 100km from Holyhead.
Rosslare is 450km from Brest.

We have a 500km border with another jurisdiction.

The relevant comparison for Ireland is not NZ.

Also we get millions more visitors/tourists every year. Comparing us to New Zealand just because we have a similar population size is rediculous.

Phoebas · 10-04-2020 10:24AM

Acosta wrote: »

Leo did say to trust the national media.

Obviously you should listen to what Leo says, but don't use his words as a replacement for your critical faculties.

is_that_so · 10-04-2020 10:25AM

10-04-2020 10:25AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Like this?

Full PPE

Drumpot · 10-04-2020 10:25AM

ironingbored wrote: »

New Zealand is 2,500 kms from Australia. You don't just rock up in rowing boat.
There is one city of note in the South Island.
76% of the population resides on the North Island.

Dublin is 100km from Holyhead.
Rosslare is 450km from Brest.

We have a 500km border with another jurisdiction.

The relevant comparison for Ireland is not NZ.

I would agree to a degree.

But I’ve never understood the stance from WHO that was suggesting that flights in/out make a negligible difference to transmission. It just doesn’t stand up to logical scrutiny. That, coupled with their stance on masks seem more like statements made as they were put under political pressure for different reasons to promote these ideas.

I think flights have been a huge problem and the protection of the airline/tourist industry , along with worrying about foreign relations with other countries, were prioritized over common sense reactions that would of most definitely slowed down the spread.

I can forgive mistakes and poor decisions once they are rectified, but I don’t see everybody change their tune quickly on either of these issues. And with that comes a trust issue which could be very damaging, particularly when you get muppets who can’t even follow the current instructions pointing out that they were lieing all along!!

Drumpot · 10-04-2020 10:27AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Like this?

I knew somebody was taking pictures of me.... :pac:

Corkgirl20 · 10-04-2020 10:28AM

I’ve taken to unfollowing any “bloggers/influencers” on Instagram who are having people over , one them had a photographer come to her house this morning because you know getting your photos done is essential in this pandemic. Pathetic.

I think we should all follow suit and unfollow those sorts. Bad enough they’re doing it and even worse that they’re broadcasting it when they’ve given themselves the title of “influencer” .

speckle · 10-04-2020 10:30AM

iguana wrote: »

Not full herd immunity no. But allowing a degree of spread during this wave, say 20-30%, means that a second, winter wave would be less deadly. We might also have decent antibody testing in the next few months. A number of countries have plans to issue immunity certificates allowing those immune people to work. Imagine if by late autumn nursing home and care home staff and home care assistants were all people with immunity. The majority of our fatalities right now seem to be from nursing homes. Just think of the enormous difference it would make if it wasn't possible for someone working in a nursing home to infect the residents. Imagine how much easier and safer it would be for frontline workers to find childcare if childcare workers with immunity were organised, etc.

We lost whatever chance we had of containing Covid 19 in February. A number of decisions were made early on that made that blatantly impossible. I suspect that the decision was made to allow a degree of slow spread in the spring/summer so that we wouldn't be completely overwhelmed in the winter. The DoH just had a bit more nous than the British government and didn't come out and say that's what they were doing while also planning for a slower spread.

Just one caveat. Even those who are immune can still carry the virus on their skin including hands, glasses, their shoes, their clothes and anything they bring to work.

Kermit.de.frog · 10-04-2020 10:30AM

https://twitter.com/eurocontrolDG/status/1248553777466150913

Pinch Flat · 10-04-2020 10:33AM

ironingbored wrote: »

New Zealand is 2,500 kms from Australia. You don't just rock up in rowing boat.
There is one city of note in the South Island.
76% of the population resides on the North Island.

Dublin is 100km from Holyhead.
Rosslare is 450km from Brest.

We have a 500km border with another jurisdiction.

The relevant comparison for Ireland is not NZ.

I've family in NZ and my parents in law just returned. Been checking in with the NZ clan via Skype / whats app over the past few weeks.
Their observations:
Borders have been closed to non-citizens for weeks
People policed into supermarkets (one at a time). You must have a list and browsing / dilly dallying not tolerated
People are essentially on house arrest. Given 2 days to prepare. Everywhere is shut.
Social distancing going on there for weeks now. It's policed as well.
They've been quarantining arrivals for about 4 weeks - mandatory now since yesterday (State controlled facility)

Their cases are very low and they're close to eliminating the virus. 2 deaths to date and just over 1000 cases.

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-current-situation/covid-19-current-cases

Alf Veedersane · 10-04-2020 10:33AM

is_that_so wrote: »

That's gorillas with a "u"!

What's a 'gurilla'?

Funsterdelux · 10-04-2020 10:35AM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I’ve taken to unfollowing any “bloggers/influencers” on Instagram who are having people over , one them had a photographer come to her house this morning because you know getting your photos done is essential in this pandemic. Pathetic.

I think we should all follow suit and unfollow those sorts. Bad enough they’re doing it and even worse that they’re broadcasting it when they’ve given themselves the title of “influencer” .

So you want us to follow you and unfollow them?

Gotcha.

Luckily/unluckily for me this thread is the only thing I follow.

Red for Danger · 10-04-2020 10:36AM

Anyone out there online or tv, giving a good analysis of the world meter figures?

Corkgirl20 · 10-04-2020 10:36AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

So you want us to follow you and unfollow them?

Gotcha.

Luckily/unluckily for me this thread is the only thing I follow.

I’m taking no prisoners !

KiKi III · 10-04-2020 10:36AM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I’ve taken to unfollowing any “bloggers/influencers” on Instagram who are having people over , one them had a photographer come to her house this morning because you know getting your photos done is essential in this pandemic. Pathetic.

I think we should all follow suit and unfollow those sorts. Bad enough they’re doing it and even worse that they’re broadcasting it when they’ve given themselves the title of “influencer” .

Who? I’m pretty shocked by that.

Drumpot · 10-04-2020 10:37AM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think it depends how many you are buying for and what you generally eat. With a smaller household it is a lot easier to stock but a real challenge for larger numbers. Smaller shops can also really add to overall costs.

Theres 5 in my house. I had been buying extra each shop since the start of February. The whole idea was so I could avoid the panic when the penny finally dropped to the rest of the nation and I wouldn’t need to be part of the panic.

It’s true that it’s more expensive to shop in a local store but again I get some bits to top up and I see this as life or death so a few extra euros is a small Price to pay to reduce risk when possible. But that aside I do a risk assessment anytime I leave my house. Quite often I work out that I don’t need to make the trip and remain at home. It’s mad how often we goto shops and make trips that are more out of habit then necessity.

iguana · 10-04-2020 10:37AM

speckle wrote: »

Just one caveat. Even those who are immune can still carry the virus on their skin including hands, their shoes, their clothes and anything they bring to work.

Of course they can. But it's easier to wash and change on arrival and then be clear for an 8-12 hour shift than it is to wash and change on arrival and still be unknowingly breathing it out.

is_that_so · 10-04-2020 10:38AM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

What's a 'gurilla'?

Not a gorilla! It's a line from The Commitments.

Timberrrrrrrr · 10-04-2020 10:38AM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I’ve taken to unfollowing any “bloggers/influencers” on Instagram who are having people over , one them had a photographer come to her house this morning because you know getting your photos done is essential in this pandemic. Pathetic.

I think we should all follow suit and unfollow those sorts. Bad enough they’re doing it and even worse that they’re broadcasting it when they’ve given themselves the title of “influencer” .

If you (not you personally, the collective you) can be "influenced" by some gobshìte on insta then you definitely need to get new and better hobbies.

ettravel · 10-04-2020 10:42AM

sky news report on Italy heart breaking stuff

Corkgirl20 · 10-04-2020 10:42AM

KiKi III wrote: »

Who? I’m pretty shocked by that.

A west Cork TV presenter now living in Dublin, it’s still on her story now.

Corkgirl20 · 10-04-2020 10:45AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

If you (not you personally, the collective you) can be "influenced" by some gobshìte on insta then you definitely need to get new and better hobbies.

I knew that “ influencer” personally and still unfollowed her , don’t have time for that.
A lot of younger people will be influenced by this stuff unfortunately.

shamco · 10-04-2020 10:45AM

I'm not a U2 fan but I've seen people slagging them off about being tax exiles. At least they have stepped up. We haven't heard anything from our other exiles such as O Brien , Mcmanus, Desmond , Smurfit et al who have done very well out of this country.

BanditLuke · 10-04-2020 10:45AM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

If the pubs and nightclubs were opened this minute they would be packed to the rafters and not a single fcuk would be given for social distancing unless it was brought up as a joke.lets not be kidding ourselves.
The second coppers or the likes open there will be people packed into them and it will be the same as it ever was.
Casualty will be back to babysitting gombeens that can’t hold their Porter or who fancy themselves as a bit of a mikeen Tyson after a few sherries.
An hour and things will be as they always were.

This is correct which is why we need to keep the present very reasonable restrictions going and introduce more if needed. We just can't trust people to act like adults and be responsible im afraid.

Drumpot · 10-04-2020 10:45AM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

A west Cork TV presenter now living in Dublin, it’s still on her story now.

Reminds me of John Oliver showing that muppet anchor of OAN news actually put up a film of him disobeying lockdown measure to go out and get his hair cut. Absolute selfish morons, that’s the nicest thing you can say about them.

lawred2 · 10-04-2020 10:46AM

KiKi III wrote: »

Who? I’m pretty shocked by that.

Really. They are all full of complete sh!t. Self absorbed tossers.. carrying on as normal is exactly what I would expect from most of them.

Their livelihoods depend on it.

I truly hope that this pandemic has as one of its few positive side effects is that people wake up to themselves and start living their own lives rather than being a useful gullible fool helping to line someone else's pocket.

Followers of 'influencers' are dopes. And they need waking up to themselves.

BanditLuke · 10-04-2020 10:46AM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I’ve taken to unfollowing any “bloggers/influencers” on Instagram who are having people over , one them had a photographer come to her house this morning because you know getting your photos done is essential in this pandemic. Pathetic.

I think we should all follow suit and unfollow those sorts. Bad enough they’re doing it and even worse that they’re broadcasting it when they’ve given themselves the title of “influencer” .

Name and shame. These people are complete scum.

flanna01 · 10-04-2020 10:47AM

Red for Danger wrote: »

Anyone out there online or tv, giving a good analysis of the world meter figures?

The number of active infected people is going up every day by the thousand(s)

The number of serious / critical cases are increasing by the day (steadily).

Possibly Italy, Spain & Germany are over the worst of it.??

France still not showing any signs of slowing down

The UK & USA are like watching a train wreck about to happen...

Ireland - Not enough credit given to Government, nor indeed the vast majority of citizens abiding by the restrictions imposed... Not sure where we are at the moment, another few day will clarify our position hopefully.

CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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