Is it just me or have SF vanished?

smurgen · 09-04-2020 09:16PM

christy c wrote: »

Even some in Sinn Fein were wondering where these figures came from. Where did you manage to verify them? Thanks

That's Martin's numbers. What are the numbers Fine Gael gave? What did Harris say today?

Mortelaro · 09-04-2020 09:17PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

In his area of responsibility = Ireland
and position = Taoiseach.

Read the fecking question they were asked. :rolleyes:

You're very tetchy Francie, what's the matter,people tackling your spoofing a bit too much lately?
Don't take it to heart,its only a bulletin board

FrancieBrady · 09-04-2020 09:24PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

You're very tetchy Francie, what's the matter,people tackling your spoofing a bit too much lately?
Don't take it to heart,its only a bulletin board

Not a bit. Just don't suffer fools lightly.

Mortelaro · 09-04-2020 09:28PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not a bit. Just don't suffer fools lightly.

That's great, obviously no one here does
Chin up

christy c · 09-04-2020 09:28PM

smurgen wrote: »

That's Martin's numbers. What are the numbers Fine Gael gave? What did Harris say today?

Martin's numbers, fine but where did you verify they were correct before repeating them?

Dont know what numbers Harris or FG gave.

FrancieBrady · 09-04-2020 09:32PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

That's great, obviously no one here does
Chin up

You could only come back from an answer about Leo with a slag. I think anyone with sense knows what happened there anyhow.

Mortelaro · 09-04-2020 09:43PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You could only come back from an answer about Leo with a slag. I think anyone with sense knows what happened there anyhow.

How dare you impune my morality
I most certainly do not date slags

Suckit · 09-04-2020 10:19PM

smurgen wrote: »

That's Martin's numbers. What are the numbers Fine Gael gave? What did Harris say today?

It's probably not far wrong.
40,000 two weeks ago, waited for equipment, still a few thousand below target of 15,000 per day and numbers growing.
So is probably somewhere around there.
At this stage does testing really make any difference?

It is just for statistics, which aren't going to be accurate anyway.

christy c · 09-04-2020 11:03PM

Suckit wrote: »

It's probably not far wrong.
40,000 two weeks ago, waited for equipment, still a few thousand below target of 15,000 per day and numbers growing.
So is probably somewhere around there.
At this stage does testing really make any difference?

It is just for statistics, which aren't going to be accurate anyway.

Micheal Martin tweeted the 51k figure, if it's not far wrong why would he have deleted it?

The WHO still recommend testing and far as I know, presume there's a reason for it.

Suckit · 09-04-2020 11:12PM

christy c wrote: »

Micheal Martin tweeted the 51k figure, if it's not far wrong why would he have deleted it?

I have no idea, you could try and phone or tweet him and ask him.
It may be incorrect. Maybe he misheard other figures. Maybe he pulled the figure out of the sky.
I just said that I think it's probably not far wrong.

christy c wrote: »

The WHO still recommend testing and far as I know, presume there's a reason for it.

There is no doubt a reason for it. I would not think that they would have people going to testing centres and putting so many at risk.
I'm selfish. Thinking of myself.
You either have it or don't. If you are self isolating, then you can do the test to see if you had it after this has calmed down a bit.
I don't see any point in going to get tested, wait over three weeks (at which case it would have been and gone) and still not receive results.
If it is purely to figure out how many are infected at a given time you could ring your doctor and tell them.

Suckit · 09-04-2020 11:14PM

christy c wrote: »

Micheal Martin tweeted the 51k figure, if it's not far wrong why would he have deleted it?

I have no idea, you could try and phone or tweet him and ask him.
It may be incorrect. Maybe he misheard other figures. Maybe he pulled the figure out of the sky.

christy c wrote: »

The WHO still recommend testing and far as I know, presume there's a reason for it.

There is no doubt a reason for it. I would not think that they would have people going to testing centres and putting so many at risk.
I'm selfish. Thinking of myself.
You either have it or don't. If you are self isolating, then you can do the test to see if you had it after this has calmed down a bit.
I don't see any point in going to get tested, wait over three weeks (at which case it would have been and gone) and still not receive results.
If it is purely to figure out how many are infected at a given time you could ring your doctor and tell them.
I am guessing that they would also like to find out the strain.

christy c · 09-04-2020 11:22PM

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christy c · 09-04-2020 11:26PM

Suckit wrote: »

I have no idea, you could try and phone or tweet him and ask him.
It may be incorrect. Maybe he misheard other figures. Maybe he pulled the figure out of the sky.

Phone Micheal Martin? Right.

I would assume he deleted it because it's unsubstantiated, but it was brought in here as it made a nice soundbite.

Jinglejangle69 · 09-04-2020 11:29PM

Onto the SF thread for the 1st time all day and see the SF loyal comrades now defending FF and sticking up for Michael Martin after his **** up today!!!

All in the name of bashing FG at all costs.

Absolutely hilarious.

You lads are a sight to behold, thanks:)

smurgen · 09-04-2020 11:52PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Onto the SF thread for the 1st time all day and see the SF loyal comrades now defendimg and sticking up for Michael Martin after his **** up today!!!

All in the name of bashing FG at all costs.

Absolutely hilarious.

You lads are a sight to behold, thanks:)

Your comprehension limits are showing again. I've asked for evidence his numbers are wrong. That doesn't equal support. Where are the official government numbers? Why do the government not report these numbers?

all about the mane · 09-04-2020 11:55PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Onto the SF thread for the 1st time all day and see the SF loyal comrades now defendimg and sticking up for Michael Martin after his **** up today!!!

All in the name of bashing FG at all costs.

Absolutely hilarious.

You lads are a sight to behold, thanks:)

SF and FF are two cheeks of the same arse in slot of ways. The faithful would never admit it though. Hilarious to watching them squirming.

FrancieBrady · 10-04-2020 12:12AM

all about the mane wrote: »

SF and FF are two cheeks of the same arse in slot of ways. The faithful would never admit it though. Hilarious to watching them squirming.

I thought it was FF/FG that were joining forces? Merging, though the faithful would never admit it.

It's those two that have the identity crisis I'm afraid.

JMMCapital · 10-04-2020 12:57AM

Good riddance to SF! How could so many young people be so gullible to fall for there propaganda.

Yurt2 · 10-04-2020 01:43AM

JMMCapital wrote: »

Good riddance to SF! How could so many young people be so gullible to fall for there propaganda.

Because the most media and comms obsessed government we've ever had never engage in such things. Not never, no siree bob.

Look, young people en-masse, quite correctly, came to the conclusion that FG were going to do nothing on housing. In fact, they tried to 'communicate' their way out of the problem and tried to frame the chronic rental increases and house price inflation as being as natural as the flowering of the daisys in springtime.

They got crushed for their troubles. There is no mystery here. Young people (and not so young) took a punt that SF and others might be able make a better fist of housing, health and quality of life. They knew FG weren't going to seriously tackle them.

This may surprise you, but a hell of a lot of people still think that FG are exactly the wrong people to lead the country despite all the pom pom cheerleading for Leo et al

markodaly · 10-04-2020 07:44AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ok...the FG mantra today seems to be...just give up. Put roadblocks in the way evry step of the way. THERE IS NO BETTER WAY, just the FG way. Don't question, don't seek solutions and don't criticise.

Fair enough, we get it.

What in dear lord are you blathering about now Francie?

You think FG make this stuff up on the fly?
What about all these other governments that had issues? Is that also the 'FG way'?
Or are you spouting **** for the sake of it. Do you get paid per post?

Anyway.

But China's efforts to help haven't gone smoothly, as several countries have reported faults with Chinese-made supplies.

This began with Spain's recall of about 58,000 inaccurate rapid COVID-19 test kits late last week, and Turkey also casting aside a number of sample test kits that were faulty.

Breaking down the latest news and research to understand how the world is living through an epidemic, this is the ABC's Coronacast podcast.
This was then followed last Saturday by a Dutch recall of some 600,000 face masks that didn't provide an airtight seal.

Australia also found fault with Chinese products, with Border Force officials telling the ABC on Wednesday that it seized around 800,000 personal protective equipment (PPE) products worth $1.2 million in recent weeks.

I hear it may rain tomorrow. Quick! Blame FG! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

christy c · 10-04-2020 07:48AM

smurgen wrote: »

Your comprehension limits are showing again. I've asked for evidence his numbers are wrong. That doesn't equal support. Where are the official government numbers? Why do the government not report these numbers?

I've asked you how you managed to verify the numbers Micheal Martin deleted from his Twitter account, why have you not been able to answer?

FrancieBrady · 10-04-2020 08:05AM

markodaly wrote: »

What in dear lord are you blathering about now Francie?

You think FG make this stuff up on the fly?
What about all these other governments that had issues? Is that also the 'FG way'?
Or are you spouting **** for the sake of it. Do you get paid per post?

Anyway.

I hear it may rain tomorrow. Quick! Blame FG! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

That was directed at the FG acolytes on here who say, everytime an improvement is suggested or a criticism is made, handwave it away as 'impossible...too big a task...you can't be doing that...etc etc'

'Excuses' they are called in my environs.

FrancieBrady · 10-04-2020 08:06AM

christy c wrote: »

I've asked you how you managed to verify the numbers Micheal Martin deleted from his Twitter account, why have you not been able to answer?

How do you verify the figures FG give? Or any politician for that matter?

christy c · 10-04-2020 08:10AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How do you verify the figures FG give? Or any politician for that matter?

Well Martin's figures were disputed by the HSE yesterday, and he deleted his tweet about this. Given that that poster repeated it I asked him to show how he verified it- fair question?

I take a lot of things politicians say with a pinch of salt.

FrancieBrady · 10-04-2020 08:19AM

christy c wrote: »

Well Martin's figures were disputed by the HSE yesterday, and he deleted his tweet about this. Given that that poster repeated it I asked him to show how he verified it- fair question?

I take a lot of things politicians say with a pinch of salt.

I heard Colm Henry say he 'didn't know where the figure came from', I didn't hear them dispute them per se. Fergal Bowers still hasn't deleted his tweet, so I presume the figure remains in the public domain until the right figure is given or Martin is questioned on where it came from.

TBH with you at this stage we need a good Dáil session so that all the fudging and confusion around testing can be sorted out and explained. Over-sight.

tikkahunter · 10-04-2020 08:39AM

You can crib all you want about the government but I think we are doing well compared to other so called super powers . Look below at New York . Unreal.
https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1248472724957065216?s=21

christy c · 10-04-2020 08:40AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I heard Colm Henry say he 'didn't know where the figure came from', I didn't hear them dispute them per se. Fergal Bowers still hasn't deleted his tweet, so I presume the figure remains in the public domain until the right figure is given or Martin is questioned on where it came from.

TBH with you at this stage we need a good Dáil session so that all the fudging and confusion around testing can be sorted out and explained. Over-sight.

Colm Henry said that Ireland was able to meet its demand for testing. That would indicate to me that the 51k figure was incorrect (but I'm not sure), hence why I asked that poster to show how he verified them.

Fergal Bowers tweet was basically "MM said xyz", he had no reason to delete it as he Fergal was factually correct.

Dail session probably no harm but that still doesn't answer how the initial poster verfified his figures.

Yurt2 · 10-04-2020 08:46AM

tikkahunter wrote: »

You can crib all you want about the government but I think we are doing well compared to other so called super powers . Look below at New York . Unreal.
https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1248472724957065216?s=21

Just read the underlying article. Hart Island is where the homeless / impecunious with no next of kin have always been buried. A sad place to be buried but that's where such unfortunate people have always been put to rest. And they are preparing the site for an influx of such burials if worst comes to worst.

So it's not exactly accurate that the average New Yorker will be interred there if they pass away from covid-19.

markodaly · 10-04-2020 08:53AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

'Excuses' they are called in my environs.

Whats your excuse for this?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-52091054

Finance Minister Conor Murphy has confirmed that an order for Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) from China was not completed.

Last week he said a joint consignment was agreed between NI and the Irish government.

But on Friday he said that the plan failed when "major economic powers entered the global race for PPE".

On Friday afternoon, Mr Murphy said he had agreed to process an order for PPE with Dublin from China last week, and was arranging the transfer of pay when a number of "significant players had moved in", thwarting the order.

He said he had only found out on Thursday that "intense international demand" had scuppered the bid, but that would not give up.

"All week we were trying to secure that route but it was not possible," he told BBC News NI, adding there were Invest NI staff on the ground working to find an alternative supplier.

You set unbelievable benchmarks and standards for everyone Francie, so what's your excuse when they fail up North?

FrancieBrady · 10-04-2020 09:03AM

christy c wrote: »

Colm Henry said that Ireland was able to meet its demand for testing. That would indicate to me that the 51k figure was incorrect (but I'm not sure), hence why I asked that poster to show how he verified them.

Fergal Bowers tweet was basically "MM said xyz", he had no reason to delete it as he Fergal was factually correct.

Dail session probably no harm but that still doesn't answer how the initial poster verfified his figures.

You can't verify if they are incorrect, and the poster can't verify if they are correct.
Kinda up to Martin.

If it was a shinner said it he/she would be hounded until they did.

Martin will slither off the hook no doubt.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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